Posted by Jack
As everyone probably knows by now, the legislature of the People’s Republic of California passed a restrictive bill in October of 2009 called AB 962. AB 962 attacks the heart of 2nd Amendment rights by cutting off or severely restricting the circulation of ammunition to the freedom loving people of California. Unfortunately, the Governator signed it into law!
What does this mean to you? If you live in California, it means that in few more days (Feb. 1, 2011) You will not be permitted to directly receive shipments of certain ammunition by common carrier (UPS/FedEx). This means no more internet orders!
If you want to purchase certain ammunition, you will have to provide a thumbprint and description of the ammunition purchased as well as present a photo ID.
The restricted ammunition (including popular calibers like 9mm, 45 ACP, 40 S&W, 380 Auto, 38 Special, 357 Mag, etc) will most likely be very hard to find or more expensive.
If you don’t live in California, be thankful….. for now.
Jack–“If you want to purchase certain ammunition, you will have to provide a thumbprint and description of the ammunition purchased as well as present a photo ID.”
I suppose this is intended to be obvious to your target audience, but maybe you can help me out a little. What exactly is the problem with this? How does it violate your right to bear arms?
Chris, what right does government have to tell me where I can buy ammo? I hate government doing anything that restricts my freedom, especially things that have no decernable beneficial value, – don’t you?
As the saying goes, you can’t infringe upon just one right without infringing upon all rights. These kind of intrustions by government always affects everyone’s rights eventually Chris. But, this is also a restraint of trade issue between states. Anything that restrains trade between states must be looked at very carefully because the implications are so serious and long lasting. And who shall pay for this fingerprinting and oversight? Who shall paying for this screwing of the gun owners? Tell me please. We all pay for it. And what exactly do we get for our additional tax burden? Nothing worthy of the loss of freedom, never mind the cost to individual. On the other hand, this new law places yet one more burden on gunowners and any further burdens on gun owners is, in my opinion, a further erosion of OUR second ammendment.
Chris, you’re a bright person and it disturbs me when a bright person doesn’t connect the dots – could you really not see any of this or were you just wanting me to say it for you? ; ) .
Chris, one more thing – you realize that sometimes such laws are passed to get rid of the competition?
Jack, you answered my question with another question–“what right does government have to tell me where I can buy ammo?”
But I’ll answer. The government has the right to regulate the buying and selling of weapons, at least to some extent. Surely you don’t disagree with this basic concept; even you would concede that there are many weapons that the government shouldn’t allow it’s citizens to own.
This law, however, doesn’t even restrict citizens from owning anything–it just makes sure that if a citizen is buying certain ammo, then the government will know about it. Nowhere in the second amendment does it say that you have the right to buy ammo in secret.
Now, I don’t know whether this is a good law or a bad law, and I won’t defend or protest it at the moment. But I do know enough to say with some confidence that this is not an issue of rights.
Chris: Where do you buy your milk? Where do you buy your clothes? What right do you have to buy these things in secret? Well, you really don’t buy in secret do you? You do it in the open just like I buy ammo, but somehow you feel justified in saqying I buy ammo in secret.. Why would you think that way? It’s a commodity and I deal with a business, I make a charge on my bank card…it’s definately not a secret. If someone was investigating me for something, it wouldn’t take much to use my bank records to find where I made certain purchases, even my ammo.
As to the issue of being told you can’t buy ammo from out of state, yeah, it’s a matter of your civil rights. Look up restraint of trade. And there is a logical connection to the 2nd ammendment here too. But, I won’t repeat myself, either you accept the argument that gov. is intruding again or you don’t. I’m quite sensitive about intrusions…that’s just my cynical nature having lived as long as I have. You’re young, idealistic and apparently trusting of the gov….that will change, that will definately change. : )
PS Chris, you know when we disagree I am responding in an avuncular manner, right?