California ranks as the second worst state in the country for business taxes because of “complex, non-neutral taxes with comparatively high rates,” according to the non-partisan Tax Foundation’s 2011 State Business Climate Index. Only New York has a worse climate for employers, the report found.
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Re: “There is no end to what they want – the only end is when the voters say its at an end, when enough is enough.”
Precisely.
Until enough people stand up and shout, “Taxed Enough Already!” there will never be an end.
As long as politicians continue to create bureaucratic dynasties and pay heed to special interest groups, including state employees, who unsustainably raid the treasury for ever increasing budgets and benefits we will go nowhere but further into an abyss of economy crushing debt.
Corporations are fleeing this ridiculous state. I don’t blame them. This should make California “Progressives” happy, they are finally ridding themselves of the evil corporations and creating a worker’s paradise. Right?
The usual B.S. from the local queen of B.S.
Look it up? Where, up your hat?
A citation from Colgan? Not likely. He has none. He is a serial liar. And a doofus.
Quentin, put up or shut up.
There are literally tons of articles to the contrary.
Here is but one recent article —
Companies are “disinvesting” in California at a rate five times greater than just two years ago
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California, once a business friendly state, continues to conduct a war on its own economy
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That is about to change, at least if Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom has anything to say about it. Newsom is developing a plan to address the state’s economic Achilles heels, and build on its strengths. It will be unveiled at the end of July.
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The most popular places to go? Texas, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Utah, Virginia and North Carolina, said Vranich. All rank in the Top 13 places to do business, according to Chief Executive.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/28/news/economy/California_companies/index.htm?iid=HP_LN
Note: If it matters to anyone but a few dunderheads, the above is from CNN, not Fox News. If there wasn’t a problem why would Gavin Newsome have a plan?
Colgan comes up with another big fat zero. No big deal. We are used to it. Another big fat zero from a big fat zero.
Quentin, I went looking and found this…”Wednesday, September 29, 2010 –
By Relocation.com Staff
When it comes to the states that continue to attract newcomers, big still rules.
Based on an analysis of over 530,000 moving records from 2007 in the Relocation.com database, California and Texas were the two most popular states for people to move to in 2007. California, which has generally ranked No. 1 as a destination state, might seem a surprisingly hot locale for people to flock to, based on its outsized role in the housing meltdown.
(Check out our list of Best Cities for a Fresh Start.)
However, the data also reveal that California ranks first as the state people are most likely to move away from, followed closely by Florida, Texas, New York and Illinois. Either way you cut it, California moving companies are busy.
But so are Texas movers.
On a total percentage basis, Texas narrowly bests California as the most popular destination state (10.6% vs. 10.5%). But a closer look reveals that California still garners more people from out of state than Texas does. 60% of respondents listing Texas as a destination state live in Texas now, so their move is an intrastate, rather than an interstate move. Only 43% of people moving to a new location in California currently live in California; thus 57% of all moves to California are interstate moves.
The data show that 6% of the total sample has moved from another state to California, followed by Florida (5%) — another state hard hit by the mortgage meltdown — Texas (4%), New York (3%) and Georgia (2%).
California also ranks first as the state most likely for people in this sample to move from, with 7% of them moving from California to another state followed by Florida (5%), Texas and New York with 4% and Illinois with 2%.”
Of course this is data from 2007…where is your source Q? I sincerely want to read it.
Texas competitive advantage over California, according to the study, is lower taxes, lower government spending and less regulation.
The study compared the two states on six broad categories:
taxes on labor
taxes on capital
taxes on consumption
overall tax environment
regulatory environment
government spending policies
The Texas Public Policy Foundation is a free enterprise and personal responsibility research institute. One of the studys authors is former Californian Arthur Laffer, a supply side economist who advised President Ronald Reagan. Update: Laffer companies have been paid almost $98,000 by California candidate for governor Meg Whitman. Click here for details.A comparison between Texas and California is not only valid but vital for our country, Laffer said. Both are large, strategically located states with strong demographics and bountiful natural resources. But Californias regulatory and tax costs, coupled with budgetary and policy instability, render it an impotent competitor when standing next to low-tax, business-friendly Texas, which levies no capital gains or income taxes to support its affordable government.
Laffer is perhaps best known for advocating that lower taxes can actually increase revenues to government by encouraging economic growth.
Its just striking how the states with no income tax (including Texas) outperform the states with high income taxes (Californias highest personal income tax rate, 10.55% is third highest in the nation), Laffer said.
Sally C. Pipes, president and CEO of San Francisco-based Pacific Research Institute, said, If Californians still have trouble understanding why so many of our former neighbors have gone to Texas, this scorecard spells it out in painful detail.
California does outperform Texas on a few measures:
State and local property tax burden per capita: California $32.89, Texas $36.50
Sales tax per $1,000 of personal income: California $25.62, Texas $29.47
But on most measures that the study uses, Texas comes out ahead:
State sales tax rate: Texas 6.25%, California 8.25%
Marginal corporate income tax rate: Texas 1% GRT, California 8.84%
Total state and local government expenditures per capita: Texas $7,763.49, California $11,256.83
Average annual growth in government spending: Texas 7.02%, California 7.29%
Recession-related job loss from peak employment to July 2010: Texas, -2.3%, California, -8.7%
The lighter regulatory burden in Texas also helps its economy flourish in comparison to California, which overloads businesses in the state with excessive costs and burdens, the 2010 study says.
From Politfact….”Since the first of the year, 153 businesses at last count had moved out of California to Texas,” he said on “Fox & Friends” Nov. 4. Then on Nov. 8, he said it to host Greta Van Susteren on Fox News’s “On the Record.” Later that day he told the host of Comedy Central’s “Daily Show,” Jon Stewart, that “153 businesses have moved out of California to Texas since the first of the year through August.”
Perry spokeswoman Katherine Cesinger told us that “the 153 figure came from a Dun & Bradstreet analysis of California business migration from January 2010 to August 2010.” Dun & Bradstreet is a New Jersey-based business-intelligence company with a global database of some 171 million companies in more than 190 countries.
“Texas was the largest recipient of outbound California business migration with 153 companies,” she said. When we asked her for the analysis, she directed us to a D&B official.
Mark Muckerman, D&B government relations director, told us that the company conducted an internal exercise most of which he said has not been shared outside the company of “interstate moves of business locations,” or businesses that have relocated out of state. He said that 153 businesses relocated from California to Texas from January through August.
However, Muckerman said, the D&B count does not mean that 153 individual companies pulled up stakes in California to settle in Texas. Muckerman offered this example: If one company with five offices in California keeps its headquarters in state and moves its branches out of state, including one to Texas, that would figure into the D&B count that Perry cites.
Muckerman revealed one other caveat. He said the “interstate moves” don’t include new business locations. So if a California company decided to open a brand-new packaging facility in Texas, it wouldn’t be counted among the businesses that have moved from California to Texas.
Muckerman said he didn’t know how Perry learned of D&B’s internal report though he presumes someone at D&B spoke to someone in the governor’s office.
We wondered how many business sites moved from Texas to California. Muckerman told us there were 92 such moves, leaving Texas with a net gain of 61 business sites from the Golden State.
How did California rank in landing business sites from other states? Muckerman declined to disclose that information.
Lacking more data from D&B’s research, we struggled to evaluate the significance of 153 business sites having moved to Texas from California over the past eight months.
Muckerman said that “from a purely economical development viewpoint,” any gain from another state is good news. Putting Texas’ numbers in perspective, he said, 19,585 business sites in the D&B database showed a change of address from one state to another between January and August. Of those, 1,280 relocated from other states to Texas, which ran second to Florida in relocations. Florida’s haul was 2,032, Muckerman said.
Where does that leave us?
Wishing for more data. And if it surfaces, we’ll consider revisiting this subject.” End of article
Q: “they tell them that corporations with a tax rate one fourth of theirs are paying too much in taxes.”
This is a lie of the most scurrilous sort. Corporations are things. Corporations have been made “persons” by our government (and lawyers) and given tax ID numbers in order to create another source from which to collect taxes. One way to look at it is that those who own these companies are taxed twice! The better way to look at it is that the cost of those taxes are included in the price of the goods people buy, making it an additional hidden tax on the people.
Corportate tax is a hidden tax and it carries a big bonus for progressive Democrats (and nuts like Q). When it suits them they use it to try to convince the American people to give up their freedom, give up their opportunities, and join them in turning it all over to the state. We can trust them better than we can trust the corporate and small business people, they say.
Yeah sure…like after the revolution you will have a choice about where you will work and how much you can make. NOT! A living wage will be determined. All the little comrades will be assigned work and “a living wage”. Oh you think you have talent and want to do your own thing? Tough beans baaby…the collective is everything…except for those pigs at the top.
In our free republic capitalist system if you don’t like your job you can quit and get another one. You can do that until you find one you like. You can change careers any time you want. You can go as far as your own ambition and imagination will take you.
Q is trying to play both ends against the middle thinking/hoping his favorite guy will have a better chance.
He’s a spoiler…and he has some crazy idea that under socialism people will be miraculously transformed and give up all temptations.
I know…I know…crazy!
Yes Tina, you are so right! When corporations get taxed…we get taxed in the form of high costs to goods and services. And this is added to all the other subtle taxes we pay. Good going, great points!
well, here’s “business unfriendly” for you – we had to rent a piece of equipment at Guy Rents, and the city tacks a tax on these rentals – they shook us down for $13!
I know, Big Deal, 13 whopping bucks. But, for what? I can take that $13 to the grocery store and buy a whole chicken, a bag of rice, and a gallon of milk. I can buy two shirts and a pair of shorts at The Shop. I could buy a new set of bath towels at WalMart. Why should I fork over $13 to the city of Chico – what is this, some kind of pimp charge?
Oh, that’s funny – picture council sitting there in pimp hats – I’m laughing!
Beware Quentin’s lies, he’d say anything to protect his democrat masters in CA.
California’s house of cards has been exposed, the socialist experiment is failing. Right now, 2011, more businesses are leaving this year than last year, all because government is getting worse.
Jerry Brown recently came out with a “jobs plan” to save our state. Unfortunately it consisted of a tax increase on business. Wow.
Sorry Jerry, but if high taxes created jobs California would be number one. Texas and Wisconsin are creating jobs now, and they have Republican governors, go figure.
Juanita you have a wonderful way of making your point – I think you and Tina must be from the same mold. And that’s a big compliment because I consider Tina to be one of the most gifted writers I’ve seen on any blog anywhere.
juanita: “picture council sitting there in pimp hats”
I’m laughing too!
A rental tax! It’s not like the city bought the equipmnet you’re renting. What possible reason could they have to justify such a tax? The city has a reason for taxing businesses, bicycles, dog owners, etc.
You don’t suppose it’s a green tax. Are you paying for the “pollution” that rental causes?
Seriously I’d like to know! Anybody?
Would someone please get Quintin’s information source so the rest of us can become so enlightened? I do not watch Fox News(no cable, dish or direct TV) and I still can not understand his arguments.
Maybe Juanita could buy Quintin’s “carbon footprint” and save on taxes.
Quentin Colgan: “more corporations set up shop in
California last year than in Texas.”
Pie Guevara: “Quentin, put up or shut up.”
I see that there is one sure way to shut Colgan up. Ask him for supporting evidence.
Of course that does not stop him from making other unsubstantiated claims. He only shuts his mouth when asked to cite a source.
Funny how that works.
Quentin: “Governor Perry has created jobs the liberal way!”
Temporary census jobs inflated the figures…sorry Q…Texas still out performed liberal states in creating permanent jobs.
“I registered Republican on 18 August, 1975, Steve. I’ve been a Republican most of my life. I hew strongly to Republican values…”
Why is it we always have to wait on progressive commune types?
Because they believe you will forget the entire conversation “later”.
“How does this happen if I don’t buy their products????”
Ah…poor guy…you have freedom and choice. Are you trying to say you prefer something else?
None of us has to buy every product. But we do buy products. We all buy products. And whether or not YOU buy any specific product/s isn’t the point.
The point is this tax is paid by the public. The point is that having fits because corporations (things) don’t pay their fair share (WHAAAAAAAAA) is just a lot of bologna. Democrats hope to fool the people with this line of crap.
it’s just another tax on the people…that is the point.
Quentin is lying, of course. But what difference would his being registered Declined to State (too ashamed to tell) matter? Or is he too ignorant to know that CA doesn’t have partisan Primaries anymore?
The corporate tax rate is 35% plus the owners are taxed again on the income that they receive from their corporation. The tax collected would be huge, enough to pay for everything, if not for the tax breaks, shelters and doges. Try filing single, no dependents and self-employed sometime.
Re Quentin Colgan’s: BTW, people will never stand up! (etc. ad nauseam)
Yet another example of Quentin Colgan’s absolute contempt for his fellow human beings.
How is that working for you in your political aspirations, Quentin?
The Tea party is standing up. They made a huge difference in elections just 10 short months ago.
Funny how that works.
People do stand up. They are standing up now despite Colgan’s bizarre and distorted view of humanity, religion, politics, and social interactions. I suspect people standing up is precisely what Quentin Colgan most fears. He has some very fixed delusions of being a leader.
Good luck with your bid for the 2nd Congressional district, Mr. Colgan. Be sure to wear your Mad Hatter’s costume to every rally.
The Quentin Colgan Formula For Political Success:
Lead by expressing contempt for the electorate.
Lead by mockery and ridicule.
Lead by unending and relentless ad hominem attack.
Lead by acting the clown and wearing clown costumes.
Lead with a flood of contempt, mockery, ridicule, insult, and rude and crude behavior in public and on a popular blog site.
Imagine this:
Quentin Colgan registers as a Republican and runs for office.
What little following on the extreme left he may garner completely evaporates.
Members of the Republican party simply ignore him.
By the way, Mr. Colgan, I am not your brother. Let there be no mistake about that. To me you are less than what I wipe off my shoe after inadvertently step on a lawn bomb while walking in the park.
Quentin Colgan: “more corporations set up shop in California last year than in Texas.”
Pie Guevara: “Quentin, put up or shut up.”
There is one sure way to shut Colgan up. Ask him for supporting evidence.
Another way is to show him up for the serial liar kook that he is.
Of course that does not stop him from making other unsubstantiated claims.
Funny how that works.
Imagine this Marxist/Socialist/Numb Nuts kook running for office as a Republican. It might make for some comedic moments, but not much else.
Quentin,
Thank you for providing my biggest laugh of the day. I should congratulate Doug LaMalfa now, if you are to be his opponent. Still, don’t you mean to run for State Senate, if you plan to run against him? I hadn’t heard of Wally Herger’s retirement just yet.
Since the district lines were changed I’m wondering if Q even lives in his district?
Since the District lines changed Herger doesn’t live in his District either. We are now in the 1st CD and the 2nd CD (60% democratic) is on the coast. Oh, NorCal also lost McClintock’s seat in that plan.
Pypr: Thanks for that info. I asked Jim Neilson about this a week ago and he didn’t mention that…well he said Doug was inheriting some tough ground. Wish he explained it as well as you did. Good information, even though it doesn’t look so good for our representatives, especially for Wally and Doug.
Jim Neilson lives in a tough district for Republicans. Butte County is the population center of the 3rd AD. A Butte County Republican with funding can win the “open seat” since Logue moved into the 1st AD. The 2nd AD too is on the Coast. Neilson doesn’t live in his District either.
Here are some good maps:http://tinyurl.com/4y7omur http://www.latimes.com/news/la-redistricting-map-july-2011,0,3633335.htmlstory#40.63605570680549,-122.71346728515624,8,stateAssembly,,,current