Posted by Tina
The newly released photo of the back of George Zimmerman’s head has some people scratching their heads about the reasoning behind the prosecution’s case. Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz remarked on the affidavit:
“…so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge … everything in the affidavit is completely consistent with a defense of self-defense.”
According to the Breitbart article the affidavit doesn’t mention the wounds to Zimmerman’s head. Dershowitz said that if the prosecution knew about the photo and did not mention it in the affidavit it constitute a “grave ethical violation.” The prosecution is required to include all relevant information for the judge to consider. More Dershowitz: “I’ve had cases in Florida against prosecutors and this is not the first time they have willfully omitted exculpatory evidence. It’s a continuing problem. Here, it’s not only immoral, but stupid.”
There’s a lot of stupid going on in this case and in this country. This case has become an excuse for bad behavior as Eric Holder completely ignores the mob mentality of some in the black community offering a reward for Zimmerman’s capture and threatening justice at the hands of an angry, bitter mob. His lack of leadership, along with the President’s, has inspired the backlash and encouraged young people to break the law:
Maywood, Ill. – Alton L. Hayes III, a west suburban man charged with a hate crime, told police he was so upset about the Trayvon Martin case in Florida that he beat up a white man early Tuesday.
Hayes and a 15-year-old Chicago boy walked up behind the 19-year-old man victim and pinned his arms to his side, police said. Hayes, 18, then picked up a large tree branch, pointed it at the man and said, “Empty your pockets, white boy.”
The two allegedly rifled through the victim’s pockets, then threw him to the ground and punched him “numerous times” in the head and back before running away, police said. Hayes and the boy are black; the victim is white.
After being arrested, Hayes told police he was upset by the Trayvon Martin case and beat the man up because he was white, Cook County State’s Attorney’s office spokeswoman Tandra Simonton said, citing court records.
Our country is adrift in a sea of failed leadership.
This case demonstrates the need to reaffirm the foundational principles of our country. The next election will provide an opportunity to elect a more mature adult to the Presidency. We desperately need a man in the White House who can unite the people and who is prepared to govern all the people without prejudice. We need a justice department that upholds the laws of our nation and is prepared to seek justice.
I don’t know about you but I know I am really done with Immoral and stupid.
Immoral and stupid definitely sums it up 🙁 Great article. Thank you!
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Where did these photos come from?
Who’s making trial evidence public prior to trial?
Hospital records of injury released?
If Zimmerman was pursuing Martin … how did Martin come to the back of Zimnerman’s head?
Whose blood … even?
It’s all very strange.
Libby: “Where did these photos come from?”
I thin abc had them…apparently it was taken by the police about three minutes after the incident.
“Who’s making trial evidence public prior to trial?”
Dunno.
“Hospital records of injury released?”
Ya got me!
“If Zimmerman was pursuing Martin … how did Martin come to the back of Zimnerman’s head?
According to Zimmerman’s testimony to the police that was released to the public, he had given up pursuing Martin because he had lost sight of him. He was going back to his car when Martin walked up to him, confronted him and punched him in the nose, knocking him to the ground after which he jumped on top of him and was banging his head on the pavement.
“Whose blood … even?”
Looks like it’s flowing from the wounds in his head to me.
“It’s all very strange.”
Really? Seems pretty straight forward to me…unless there is evidence to the contrary and so far…but we shall see.
“How did Martin come to the back of Zimnerman’s head? Whose blood … even? It’s all very strange.” It’s hardly strange to anyone who has been following the news. The testimony and witnesses support Zimmerman was in the process of having his head slammed against the sidewalk when he fired the fatal shot. Here’s an idea to give you some perspective: Have a friend sit on top of you and vigorously slam your head against concrete and at the point you are in great fear of serious harm, yell stop! Let’s see how long it takes you. My guess is before the first slam, but if your friend manages to get even one good one in chances are you are going to split your scalp and bleed. Is any of this getting thru Libs? -Jack
His prosecution may be immoral, but it’s not stupid, it’s totally predictable even if it is irrational. The correct word here is “duress.” Duress is an act coerced thru force or fear that compels someone to do something they wouldn’t do ordinarily.
The arrest and trial is an effort at appeasement over a rational fear that many angry radical blacks and criminally oriented blacks, all over America, will riot and loot, causing injury and damage to many innocent people. Everybody acting to prosecute Zimmerman is doing so under great duress, but not stupidity. The only exception to this would be those in government who have their own agenda’s and that also would include hyper race-sensitive people like Obama and Holder. -Jack
To me this seems like a simple case. Zimnerman started a fight with Martin, which resulted in the death of Martin.
If we leave the politics out of it, there is little more to it than that. This should be a local police matter.
Unfortunately it has become politicized, which clouds the real issue of this situation.
The most significant event of the hearing was the cross-examination of the lead investigator who “wrote” the affidavit. Upon quesioning, he repudiated two critical “facts” of his own affidavit. The affidavit says that Zimmerman chased Martin down and confronted him. When asked under oath whether he had any evidence of that, the investigator said he did not. The other point is that the affadavit says Zimmerman disobeyed the 911 operator (not a police officer, incidentally) and continued to go after Martin after he was told to stop. On the stand, the officer said he had no evidence of that either. Why would a sworn police officer contradict his own affidavit on the stand? As a retired police officer who has authored well over 100 affidavits myself, I think I know. The investigator did not really write the affidavit. It was written for him, probably by some lawyer, and then he was told to sign it. I was put in that position many times, and I always refused. I said if I am going to swear to an affidavit in front of a judge, it better be my own affidavit in my own words.
As for Jim’s comment, there is no evidence that Zimmerman started a fight. When asked if he knew who threw the first punch, the investigator said no.
Soaps, that was exactly what should be said on the mainstream media, but we just don’t hear it. Well, at least you said it here. I hope the people with the wrong impression will listen.
This picture was on Drudge 4 or 5 days ago. Drudge got it from either ABC,NBC or CBS. What I would like to know is how long did ABC,NBC,or CBS sit on this picture? I think that is the first color picture I had ever seen of the guy and its the back of his head. Speaking of color pictures. The first time I had ever seen him in color and up close was when he was in court the other day. What struck me about him was “white” is the last thing I would classify him just by looking at him. I have seen black people who look whiter than he does. Why do I care? Because the MSM made such a stink about making this guy a white and a white on black crime. I think the MSM heard the story, heard the guys name and decided it was a white on black crime and their next huge “news” story. In order for them to sell the story, they made him a race of his own white/hispanic, If a crime has been committed why does it matter what color this guy is? Look at all the new crimes committed and news stories made because of what color the guy is. Not much of a story if a hispanic guy kills a black kid. Just add WHITE!
Toby I believe it was abc. There isn’t a single reason to think they haven’t had the photo all along given their reporting record in this case.
“I think the MSM heard the story, heard the guys name and decided it was a white on black crime…”
You could even call it racial profiling.
“According to Zimmerman’s testimony to the police that was released to the public, he had given up pursuing Martin because he had lost sight of him. He was going back to his car when Martin walked up to him, confronted him and punched him in the nose, knocking him to the ground after which he jumped on top of him and was banging his head on the pavement.”
Yes, but then there are those pesky 911 tapes which belie this account … entirely.
“Yes, but then there are those pesky 911 tapes which belie this account … entirely. ” Libby
Really? Maybe I should go back and listen to the tapes again. I was under the impression the tapes didn’t tell us much about the timeline, especially in the critical moments just before he (Zimmerman) was allegedly struck.
Okay Libby, I found the tape andI listened just like you could have if you were the slightest bit concerned about the truth. Then you would have had the right story and not the BS version you seem to believe contradicts Zimmerman. As an asided… I wonder why it is that liberals love to support anything black if its against a white person? Then the white person is automatically assumed wrong. Of course Zimmerman was Hispanic, but for liberals thats close enough. Is this reverse discrimination for the sake of white guilt?
Well, here’s the important time line taken right from the police transcript:
911 dispatcher:
Are you following him? [2:24]
Zimmerman:
Yeah. [2:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK.
We dont need you to do that. [2:26]
Zimmerman:
OK. [2:28] (Hey Libby, he said ok, as in agreeing not to follow.)
911 dispatcher:
Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]
Zimmerman:
George. He ran.
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, whats your last name?
Zimmerman:
Zimmerman.
911 dispatcher:
Whats the phone number youre calling from?
Zimmerman:
407-435-2400
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?
Zimmerman:
Yeah.
911 dispatcher:
Alright, where are you going to meet with them at?
Zimmerman:
Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes youll see my truck. [3:10]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, what address are you parked in front of? [3:21]
Zimmerman:
Um, I dont know. Its a cut-through so I dont know the address. [3:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK, do you live in the area?
Zimmerman:
Yeah, yeah, I live here.
911 dispatcher:
OK, whats your apartment number?
Zimmerman:
Its a home. Its 1950 oh, crap, I dont want to give it out I dont know where this kid is [inaudible] [3:40] (Libby, he’s lost sight of the person, he can’t be right on the subject if he can’t even see him!!!)
911 dispatcher:
OK, do you just want to meet with them at the mailboxes then? [3:42]
Zimmerman:
Yeah, thats fine. [3:43]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, Ill let them know youll meet them at
Zimmerman:
Could you have them call me and Ill tell them where Im at? [3:49]
911 dispatcher:
OK, thats no problem.
Zimmerman:
My number youve got it?
911 dispatcher:
Yeah, Ive got it. 435-2400?
Zimmerman:
Yeah, you got it.
911 dispatcher:
OK, no problem. Ill let them know to call you when theyre in the area. [4:02]
Zimmerman:
Thanks.
911 dispatcher:
Youre welcome.
Call ends 4:07
(Where’s the big contradiction Libby? Are you ready to admit you were wrong this time?)
Trayvon Martin Case Highlights Why Americans Distrust Media
From the Free Republic, by Bethany Mandel: When Americans first heard the story of the death of Trayvon Martin, many in the public and in the media decided on a narrative for why George Zimmerman killed the unarmed black teenager in Florida on the night of February 26. It was decided that Zimmerman, a white-Hispanic (should we now start classifying President Obama as the first white-African American president?) pursued and shot an innocent unarmed black teen in cold blood, because of his own racial bias. Over time, details available to the public have come to light as the narrative on the night changed. Many of the new details have emerged because eyewitnesses have come forward and police reports have come to light. There are a significant number of details, however, that have been shaped and then changed by the media and the biased lens they used to frame the case.
One of the key ways in which the media portrayed the story as one driven by racial violence was by playing the audio of the 9-1-1 call Zimmerman placed the night Martin died. While covering the case, NBC played excerpts of the call which made Zimmerman sound like nothing less than an armed member of the KKK. From the call NBC played the audio:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like hes up to no good. He looks black.
After playing that phrase on-air multiple times, NBC issued an apology (of sorts). They have now admitted the audio they played to millions of Americans was edited, and the full context of the conversation between Zimmerman and the 9-1-1 operator was this:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like hes up to no good. Or hes on drugs or something. Its raining and hes just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
A blog post on the Washington Post website articulated what was wrong with the statement issued by NBC:
Does the statement adequately address those concerns? On the good front, it acknowledges the mistake and apologizes to viewers for the bad editing. Its a forthright correction and spares us any excuses about the faulty portrayal. On the bad front, the statement is skimpy on the details on just how the mistake unfolded. Nor does it articulate an apology directly to George Zimmerman, the viewer who is most aggrieved by the screw-up. In light of all thats happened, Zimmerman may be a tough person for a news network to apologize to, but thats just the point: Apologies are hard.
The fact that this news broke on a Washington Post blog, and on a low traffic one at that, speaks volumes about how the Post views the NBC error as well.
Many proponents of the racial motivation theory pointed to another aspect of the 9-1-1 tape to prove that Zimmermans pursuit and shooting of Martin was due to Zimmermans bias. CNN was particularly enthusiastic about playing a segment of the 9-1-1 tapes audio over and over and over, while trying to discern what was being said over background noise and labored breathing. In the segment, a CNN reporter asserted that he was fairly sure he heard Zimmerman mutter a racial slur while chasing after Martin. Now CNN has enhanced the audio even further, and the reporter who claimed Zimmerman used a slur is now suggesting that instead of Zimmerman complaining about coons, he was actually probably using the word cold. The likelihood of CNN playing the segment on this correction as many times as it played the alleged remarks is pretty slim.
A crucial part of the case which could establish Zimmermans claim that shooting Martin was in self-defense revolves around the moments before the gun went off. Was Martin being chased by Zimmerman, as his family claims, or was he pummeling Zimmerman on the ground, as Zimmerman claims? ABC released a video of Zimmermans arrest on the night of Martins death, hyping up the claim the video didnt show any signs of injury on Zimmermans part, thereby invalidating his claim that Martin slammed his head against the sidewalk multiple times. Later, ABC broke the story that they themselves had edited the tape, eliminating pictures that proved Zimmerman walked into the police station with fresh head wounds. The Daily Caller remarked,
Now ABC News has reversed itself, and somehow its an exclusive. Not a correction. Not a retraction. An exclusive. Their big scoop is that their previous big scoop was wrong.
As with the CNN and NBC corrections, this reversal has received a fraction of the airtime that the original inflammatory accusations against Zimmerman received. As the case unfolds and new details emerge in the mainstream media, my immediate reaction has become: Interesting. I wonder if its true.
What would happen first, Libby admitting she is wrong or Obama becoming a non-racist, pro-American president of all the people not just a few of them? It is a trick question because they are both incapable of being wrong, didn’t you know that? They are the final solution and the rest of us are the problem along with the constitution and the supreme court.
In my opinion (and I have felt this for almost 40 years) Our founding fathers screwed up when they did the amendments to the constitution. Two should be One because you cant have the first without first having the second. I wish I was wrong but with people like Libby and Obama in the world the second is paramount.
Libby’s comments on this case have shown that she hasn’t bothered to discover the latest information before opening her mouth. She’s still reacting to day one when the media was making Mr. Zimmerman out to be a racist gun toting animal….and she is doing this to someone who is brown. Hypocricy? Or is she buying the white hispanic meme?
Th left looks really bad on this story. They have thrown in with the most radical, violent elements against a man they would have championed as part of the “rainbow” in different times. Race apologists are the true racist of our nation…covertly, or unconsciously, so.
Tina, how many times have you ever heard Libby admit she was wrong? I can’t think of one time, but we’ve admitted on those [rare] occasions when we made an honest mistake, which is bound to happen. Look at all the tough subjects we tackle, but we still do pretty darn good if I do say so myself.
As perfect as Libs may think she is she just can’t bring herself to admit she was in error… not ever. Maybe she thinks we’re so unworthy we don’t rate it? Wouldn’t surprise me if that was the case.
If Zimmerman’s case it tossed out by the judge or he’s found not guilty could NBC, etc. be held responsible for damages and injuries caused if the anticipated riots do happen?
If there’s a repeat of the property damage like the LA riots after the Rodney King verdict the cost could be huge and someone other then the property owners, cities and tax payers should be held accountable.
If my business was distroyed, a loved one hurt or killed I’d not only go after the media who incited the riots I’d go after Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton too.
We have freedom of speech, but it does have limitations like not yelling, “Fire” in a theater. NBC, and the rest yelled the equivalent and should be held responsible.
If they were maybe next time they’d think twice before editing another 911 tape and actually report the news and not create it.
No, no, no … not the Zimmerman tape, the tapes of all those reporting parties, which feature, in the background, Trayvon screaming … until he was shot dead.
And the thing about groady photos is that a person is dissuaded by the initial groadiness from actually looking at them. I see blood, but no lacerations, no abrasions. Do you?
And you know, when you shoot a person dead … they splatter themselves all over the place.
Libby once again you have introduced another “fact” that is not in evidence. You assert the voice on the tape yelling for help is absolutely Trayvon’s, no question. However, the witnesses are divided on this. If you were being fair you could go either way, but because of your bias to fit what you think, you assume it MUST be Trayvon! You are not as fair as you think you are by a long shot.
You made a similar assumption about blood evidence. Maybe you forgot I was a homicide investigator? You said, “…when you shoot a person dead … they splatter themselves all over the place.” No that’s not necessarily true. It depends on many variables that include, but are not limited to the distance involved from the weapon to the victim, the caliber, the powder charge, type of bullet, or where they were struck and their movement afterwards.
I’m a court certified expert in blood splatters, which means I’m very experienced and have specific training in blood splatters. As an expert homicide investigator and I would think it is highly unlikely, virtually impossible, that the visible blood on the back of Zimmerman’s head is from anything except his own personal injuries. If there are other pictures of blood I am not aware of them.
I repeat … do you see lacerations or abrasions?
If not, that would make it splatter.
A cut is visible on his head…look in the upper right corner of the photo.
Libby you are definitely in denial of the facts and evidence of this case. Your need to make this something other (racist) than it is is reaching pathological proportions.