by Jack
(Accused killer Chauncy Luna on left) When you are bored and there’s nothing to do, what’s the first thing you think of, play on the computer, go for a walk? For a couple of black teens in Duncan, Oklahoma the answer was, shoot a white kid in the back so you can watch him die. His name was Chris Lane, aged 22. He was from Australia and he was a star athlete who came here to play college baseball and he was murdered in cold blood for absolutely nothing! He was shot while jogging and now two black teens have been charged with his murder. One other white teen was charged as an accessory after the fact.
In this crime, like the shooting of a little baby in the face when his mother didn’t have any money for the black teenagers who were robbing her, this cold blooded, premeditated murder is not even remotely comparable in terms of it’s savagery to another shooting that had Congressmen wearing hoodies, tee shirts being sold with a picture of the deceased and across America there was an upheaval of racial tensions. Even retaliatory beatings of whites by blacks. Center stage we had Blacks demanding an end to the victimization of their children at the hands of evil white bigots or else there would be blood in the streets. And they were all wrong, it wasn’t even a racial event and it wasn’t even a crime. The race-baiters like to pretend those murders never happened, that victimizing is always one sided and that Trayvon Martin was an innocent black victim who died as sort of a civil rights martyr .
(Victim – Chris Lane) This blatant racial hypocrisy extends all the ways into the Halls of Congress and on to the White House, because its not only acceptable, but it’s highly desirable to show empathy for black victims in cases where the alleged offender is white. The news media loves this kind of pandering and they tend to accommodate all the crackpots, politicians and fire bombers, almost anyone who wants their podium to spout off.
We remember how Obama was Johnnie-on-the-spot for Trayvon Martin. The militants, like the new Black Panthers, were out in force, passing out wanted dead or alive posters for George Zimmerman. But, oddly nobody in the Justice Dept. wanted to pursue this as a crime. Would the Klan have received the same treatment? (Accused killer James Edwards takes selfie)
We remember when Obama labeled the actions of the Cambridge Police Dept. as racist when his professor pal was busted for interference with officers as they followed up on a suspicious person’s report. Contrast that to Obama’s remarkably silence about the baby killers that shocked the nation. And now we have these black thugs who gunned down a white Australian because they wanted to watch him die. If there was ever a hate crime worthy of condemnation by a President, this is it! Australians are calling for a tourist boycott of America. This is crime with with international implications. But, all we get from the President is silence. Why?
Could it be because Obama is a Black President first, and a President to all the other Americans a distant second? It looks like he has no time for non-black victims and I know this sounds incredibly harsh, but then this is the line Obama created the first time he inserted himself in the Henry Louis Gates incident and later in the Trayvon Martin case. He set a standard for the White House when he intejected himself into this events. But, when it appears that new standard is really a double standard, then we have every right to ask, is your use of the bully pulpit determined by the color of one’s skin? If that’s the case Mr. President, there’s a word for that….
For more on this story, click here.
Actually Jack, I might disagree with Obama concerns for any race or issue other than to use the situation to split our country so as to install his worthless sense of direction.
Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct.
*sigh* You’re being obtuse. The reason the Trayvon Martin case became a big news story is because there was no arrest and no trial. The facts were not immediately clear about what happened that night, so the story became controversial. Controversy sells.
There’s no controversy in the case mentioned in this article. The killer was immediately charged of a crime. There are no two sides here. It is obvious who the guilty party is and who the victim was. The story is just as tragic, but not as interesting, because there is no debate over what happened. That means the media will cover it less.
This is not that hard to understand without making it part of the Grand Liberal Conspiracy.
“We remember when Obama labeled the actions of the Cambridge Police Dept. as racist when his professor pal was busted for interference with officers as they followed up on a suspicious person’s report.”
By “we” I assume you mean yourself and other conservatives. You guys seem to remember a lot of things that never happened. I don’t remember President Obama ever labeling the actions of the police department racist, because I live in the real world, where that never happened. Since you live in the world of conservative blogs, I can understand why you are remembering something that never actually occurred.
But if you’re a fan of the “Obama is the real racist–against whites!” narrative, you may enjoy this article, in which the Daily Caller finds it important to note that “the Obamas do not have any white dogs.”
http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/19/the-obamas-got-a-new-puppy-everyone/#ixzz2cZA65dUx
Stephen Colbert may as well hang up his hat at this point; conservative media is now satirizing itself.
Simon & Garfunkel’s “Sounds of Silence” should accompany the next teleprompter reading . . . . . .
I was wrong! Yep, I was wrong. Clearly just avoiding them (black people) is not going to keep us (white people) safe. As it turns out we (white people) need to make sure they (black people) are sufficiently entertained or we (white people) run the serious risk of being murdered by them (black people).
Cant they (black people) all just learn to play spades? It’s what Obama does when he is bored watching us (white people) being murdered.
Toby take some consolation that this was not a controversial event… as Chris is eager to points out!
This was just a couple of kids who happened to be black, who happened to pick out a white guy and who happened to use him as a target because they wanted to see him die. That’s all. It was for entertainment purposes only..no big.
Your reality Chris? There’s only one reality and apparently you’re not part of it.
If you will not do your due dilligence to vett the truth of your comments then it falls on all of us to straighten you out and frankly I’m getting tired of it. I have better things to do.
Here Chris, read the following and then measure what you said, “I don’t remember President Obama ever labeling the actions of the police department racist, because I live in the real world, where that never happened.” BS Chris!!! Yes, it did happened and here is the proof!
“Unfortunately, that was not President Obama’s first nor was it his last attempt to use race as a campaign strategy. Soon after he assumed office, an incident in Cambridge, Massachusetts involved James Crowley, a White policeman, and Henry Louis Gates Jr., a Black friend, professor at Harvard University and “director of the W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research.” Without knowing the facts, President Obama called the police action “stupid.”
At a prime-time White House news conference that was otherwise largely devoted to health care, Mr. Obama weighed in on the Gates case and suggested that the police should never have arrested him. He added that African-Americans and Hispanics in the United States have long been familiar with racial profiling by law enforcement.
Then he made his only joke of the evening, as he speculated about what would happen if he were seen trying to force the door of his own home? “I guess this is my house now,” he said, “so it probably wouldn’t happen.” Then, after a beat, he added, “Let’s say my old house in Chicago. Here, I’d get shot.” That’s implying the cops are racists Chris, they are racially profiling and sterotyping blacks! *#@$#%%^&! You make mad with you naivity and your embracement of liberal rhetoric as if it were the gospel! You are being deliberate ignorant and that frustrates me to no end!
Here’s is but one source for your reality check and there are many, many more that offer the same evidence… http://danmillerinpanama.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/how-to-encourage-racism-and-hatred-for-political-gain/
Here’s more Chris… READ IT!
From the Telegraph:
“It’s looking as if Barack Obama has very seriously blundered over Gatesgate – implying a policeman was racist for arresting the pompous and abusive Professor Henry Louis Gates. The more details that emerge, the worse Obama – and Gates – appear:
Dennis O’Connor, chairman of the Cambridge Superior Officers Association, accused the president of blundering into something he knew little about.
He said: “When you don’t have all the facts, your next words should be ‘I have no comment’.”
Stephen Killian, the president of the Cambridge Police Patrol Officer’s Association said that Mr Obama’s comments were “disgraceful”
“For this to happen to Sgt Crowley is wrong. Cambridge officers are not stupid, and they should make an apology to us and every law enforcement person who took offence at this,” he added.
Alan McDonald, lawyer for the Cambridge police department, added: “There is no evidence whatsoever the arrest was race-based. It was in inappropriate of him [Mr Obama] to make the allegation.”
It has also emerged that Sgt Crowley has taught a racial profiling class at the Lowell Police Academy in Boston for five years with a black colleague and was handpicked by a senior black officer for the role.
Prof Gates called Sgt Crowley a “rogue policeman” and demanded an apology but has yet to elaborate on his initial account of the incident.
A charge against him of disorderly conduct was dropped on Tuesday, when the case was first made public.
Sgt Crowley said he made the arrest after Prof Gates overreacted and refused to end a stream of invective and accusations of racism that had followed routine questions and procedure.
Gates is a virtuoso player of the race card. On this occasion, he helped provoke an incident that has greatly embarrassed America’s first black president. It’s asking too much to expect Gates to apologise for the abuse he apparently showered on Sgt Crowley; but Obama should say sorry for humiliating a police officer without bothering to check his facts.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100004646/obama-must-apologise-over-gatesgate/
Here’s another story Chris…READ IT!
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/07/president-obamas-comments-on-gates-arrest-hurt-not-help-race-relations/
Chris, another good read…http://chicagomaroon.com/2009/09/19/henry-louis-gates-and-the-liberal-delusion/
Read this one…so you can wise up, these honest articles can really help your criticial thinking.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25329.html
Chris do you think are all these sources are conservative hacks misquoting Obama? That’s not reality if that’s what you think.
I wonder if the President read the police report, which clearly indicates that Mr. Gates was arrested outside of his home after his repeated outbursts had attracted a crowd. After admitting that he was not there and did not know all of the facts (“Not having been there and not seeing all the facts”), the President goes on to proclaim that the Cambridge police acted stupidly. Forgive me but passing judgment without hearing all of the facts is acting stupidly.
JPM
Finally after being hounded for a comment the Rev. Jesse Jackson says something.
Jesse Jackson spoke out on Wednesday about the “senseless” shooting death of a white Australian athlete by two black teenagers and one white teenager in Oklahoma.
“Praying for the family of Chris Lane,” Jackson said Wednesday on Twitter. “This senseless violence is frowned upon and the justice system must prevail.” (Frowned upon?)
Jackson’s comments come after a number of commentators ask why the black leaders who were outspoken during the aftermath of the Trayvon Martin shooting were silent on the circumstances surrounding Lane’s murder.
Vett the truth is right, And when it comes to Obama, the truth is lacking and that is the true insight to Obama. He has the ability to sell what direction he will take tomorrow, next week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn’t happen.
Once again, as normal I reckn’ that Chris feller let his alligator mouth get ahead of his hummingbird ass.
and proved He’s got all the smarts God gave a duck’s butt.
Mr Chris, best understand son we all smell what you’re steppin’ in.
Chris: “The reason the Trayvon Martin case became a big news story is because there was no arrest and no trial. The facts were not immediately clear about what happened that night…”
Not true Chris. You are wrong on two points.
1. The police did take Zimmerman in…handcuffed. They interrogated him for several hours. His story never changed. They questioned witnesses and neighbors. An investigation by the local authorities resulted in a determination that he was defending himself and could not be successfully prosecuted in the incident. (Big surprise that is exactly what the jury found after the state intervened and demanded a trial.) He was released. And after months suddenly:
2. A story appeared in a local paper sensationalizing the killing and naming a “white hispanic” as the murderer. In a short time there were protests and threats and that horrid statement by the President, Eric Holder vowed to investigate for a race crime. It was a trumped up trial from start to finish. The left needed a distraction…another race based issue.
The controversy in the Martin case was manufactured and played out by a well organized mob set. The tip off on day one was that white hispanic bologna…a totally manufactured reference. Since when is any person of mixed race referred to as a hyphenated “white”? Since NEVER!
Tina, you are right, but Chris isn’t buying it. He’s so prejudiced and invested in his conclusions he has no room for the truth.
Toby: “I was wrong! Yep, I was wrong. Clearly just avoiding them (black people) is not going to keep us (white people) safe. As it turns out we (white people) need to make sure they (black people) are sufficiently entertained or we (white people) run the serious risk of being murdered by them (black people).
Cant they (black people) all just learn to play spades? It’s what Obama does when he is bored watching us (white people) being murdered.”
But it’s not like there’s any racism on the right or anything. It’s all made up by the left.
Jack, instead of linking to five different editorialists giving their opinion on Obama’s words, you could have simply provided a quote from the man himself. Had you done so, you would see that I was correct, and you were wrong. Obama never “labeled” the police department as “racist,” and in fact was very clear that he could not make a definitive conclusion:
“I don’t know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that [Gates case]. But I think it’s fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home; and, number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there’s a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately. That’s just a fact.”
You are, once again, accusing Obama of saying the exact OPPOSITE of what he actually said. He did not label the police department as racist; on the contrary, he made it very clear that he could NOT do that given the facts at hand. He did allude to historical mistreatment of blacks by police, but said that it was a fact “separate and apart from this incident.”
You hear what you want to hear, even if it’s the exact opposite of what it said.
It’s disturbing that neither you nor anyone else here has any problem with Toby’s blatantly racist comments above, but you are always willing to argue every little point with me. Post Scripts: where racism is tolerated, but liberalism is not.
Chris: “But it’s not like there’s any racism on the right or anything.”
Chris it isn’t that racism doesn’t exists (across the political spectrum), it is that the left continues to pretend it only exists with white people who vote Republican! The left has been making this case for decades, a political ploy built on exaggeration and lies, for power.
Such BS should be the subject of intense laughter and scorn, instead, it is embraced as truth and used politically to stir up resentment and anger and garner votes.
It is most disturbing that a college graduate fails not only to see this unethical, monstrous behavior as despicable but also takes great satisfaction in joining with the divisive, lying, race baiting, racist rabble.
Chris, excuses for the Presidents remarks are just ridiculous. Of course he wanted to imply there was racial profiling involved or he wouldn’t have mentioned it. It’s a covert, rather than direct, method of communicating and this man is a master at it. He stepped in it on this occasion, however, which everyone could plainly see once the facts of the case came out. Gates wasn’t arrested for breaking into what turned out to be his own house; he was arrested because of his smug, (probably racist) combative, unwillingness to be civil with the officer who was responding to a call to protect the man’s home!
Chris please refrain from preaching to Post Scripts about racism. Your attempt to be clever isn’t and you are clearly willing to excuse the racism, race baiting, and politically divisive methods directed at others by the political party you embrace and worst of all, the man who pretends to be President of all Americans. He’s a joke and so are you.
Tina, maybe the president and the majority of the Democratic party are as racist as you claim they are. But right now, you have a commenter on your site making blatantly racist comments that separate “white people” and “black people” into two opposing groups, and who is telling white people as a group to be afraid–very afraid–of black people as a group. He is making generalizations about “all” black people (he even uses the word “all”).
Neither you nor Jack has offered any criticism for these clearly racist comments, and continue to express nothing but agreement with and support of Toby. If you are going to do that, fine. That’s your first amendment right. But don’t then turn around and complain when conservatives are accused of having a racism problem. That accusation exists because of people like Toby. Comments such as the above, and the ensuing silence from the other conservatives here, are valid enough reason to believe that, at least among this group of conservatives, anti-black racism is completely tolerated. For you to act as if liberals are the “real” racists and are just inventing conservative racism out of whole cloth is absurd when you are willing to ignore blatant racism when it comes from your conservative friends.
Chris at issue here is basically one question: How biased are democrats? As in… when it comes to equality, visa vi, supporting a Trayvon martin situation over a Chris Lane situation? It’s pretty clear to me they have a very strong bias when they come up speechless on Lane and provocatively loud on martin.
Personally I don’t believe such things should be politicized! But, I didn’t make it political. This was some attention seekers on the Dems side and this includes the White House. Tina and I objected to the unfairness of their bias. However, if you read what we’re really saying, then you will know much of our opinion merely sides with [equal] treatment. Our adgenda is simple…be fair for all.
When we see that isn’t happening and by the very people who are leading this country, like members of Congress and even our President, it’s disturbing and frustrating and yes, we tend to get very upset by such things!!! We’re passionate about fairness and equality! This is America, we’re supposed to be the great melting pot, not the land of race exploiters and race baiters…and I’ll be #$@% if I’m going to sit by and let those creepy people get away it. That’s why we have this podium and why I hope we’re doing something good for the country. That’s our intention anyway.
Jack: “However, if you read what we’re really saying, then you will know much of our opinion merely sides with [equal] treatment. Our adgenda is simple…be fair for all.”
But clearly, that’s not what Toby is saying; his comments are not those of a person who believes blacks and whites are equals. And if you are so outraged by racial bias, you should say something when one of your own commenters is making such racially biased comments. Because you don’t do that, it appears that you have your own racial biases, and it makes it hard to take your outrage at the White House seriously. If someone only read Post Scripts they would assume that the only hate crimes worthy of notice are those committed by blacks against whites. The police in the Chris Lane case have said there is no evidence that the killers were motivated by racial bias. Of course you may disagree with them; liberals certainly didn’t take the conclusion of the police in the Martin case at face value.
I have explained the differences between this case and the Trayvon Martin case and I think they are clear. The White House cannot comment on every murder. Since Obama is the first black president he is going to be asked questions related to controversial cases involving race. I think his answers have been mostly nuanced and well-spoken. In the Martin and Gates cases he did not leap to the assumption that anyone acted with racist motivations, but he did point out that problematic trends exist and were on his mind. I think that is careful and fair.
The only way one could conclude that Toby’s remarks are (have to be) racist is if one lived exclusively in a race bubble where all other experiences and considerations will never be acknowledged much less considered.
Frankly I’m suspicious of those who see racism as the only possible motive for being critical of blacks. Not only is it ridiculous it sets an impossible standard for both blacks and whites.
The hall monitor is limited in his observations if he cannot find room for fault with the black activist community, including the President, in the Martin case.
In case you haven’t noticed Chris, it isn’t racial bias we are concerned about…that’s your bag.
It is the constant double standard.
It is abuse by the Democrat Party/media that uses race as a means to a political end.
It is the political propensity by Democrats/media to divide the nation…power grabbing, no matter the cost.
It is the false outrage about guns when in fact the problem is corruption and rot in our society.
It is the fact that those who claim to care so much about minorities, about fairness and equality, can completely ignore the high instances of black on black murders and crime. Same with standing against school vouchers and other means of improving the educations of blacks/minoritites in our schools.
It is the continued excuse that if the black man hasn’t reached middle class status or beyond its because the white man is holding him back.
It is anger that in our schools they actually teach kids this tripe…that America, and particularly white America, and particularly Republican America is holding minorities back.
In reality we are fed up with the racial separatist tone…hyphenated Americans…that has led to division and making judgments based on race rather than character. In the case of Zimmerman his character was dismissed and he was assumed guilty by virtue of his being labeled a “white Hispanic” in the media.
We are sick and tired of the manipulation. The lies presented as truth. The trumped up and hyped media alerts used for politics.
Ach!
Chris: “But right now, you have a commenter on your site making blatantly racist comments that separate “white people” and “black people” into two opposing groups, and who is telling white people as a group to be afraid–very afraid–of black people as a group. He is making generalizations about “all” black people (he even uses the word “all”).”
I did not find the word “all” in Toby’s comment.
I see nothing in Toby’s comment that comes anywhere close to the divisive nature of the current President’s entire presidency not to mention many of his comments. Whether by race or class he’s done it all.
My reading of Toby’s comment is that white people can assume that in America today hunting down and killing white people for fun and games is as acceptable in black circles as it once was to do the same to blacks in white circles…and because of this we have good reason to avoid contact and to be fearful.
It is, sadly, a completely understandable consideration.
Those of us who grew up in the civil rights era certainly never expected that years later we would see this kind of senseless murder and division going on in America. And I hate to say it but Obama’s terrible leadership has given license to many in the black community. When a New Black Panther can get away with intimidating voters and saying things like, “You’re going to know what it like to be ruled by a black man” what message does it send to the American people and especially to young black people? When When calls for the lynching of Zimmerman (a crime) are brushed away and forgotten what message does it send? When black men senselessly murder white people and race is not made a consideration after the race frenzy made over Trayvon Martin’s killing what message does it send?When black children murdering black children in Chicago is not a crisis the President addresses what message does it send?
I don’t blame Toby and I think I get where he’s coming from in posting the comment.
If we don’t hold all people to the same standards we are not honoring the principles our nation was founded upon or the civil rights struggles our nation sacrificed so much to win.
I suggest you turn your critical eye toward those who actually deserve some scrutiny.
Wow, last time I looked this thread had like 12 comments. First off thank you guys for speaking up and sticking up for me.
Chris, I never told anyone to be “very afraid” of anyone. I want people to be alert be vigilant also to be aware that something very ugly is on the horizon.
I have been around liberals long enough to know that had I used the words us and them alone, we would be having the same conversation. So yes I spelled it out black and white because that is the current issue.
If a black person is killed, even if by a Mexican, the Left and the MSM will figure out a way to make it a white on black crime. Oh and nothing short of a death sentence for the non-black person will stop the retaliation on white people.
Now lets look at the reverse. Two black kids and a white kid shoot a white guy in the back dead, the Left and MSM really don’t say crap about it. Add the murder of the 88 year old white man by two black guys, still next to nothing from the Left and the MSM. So yep I am seeing an us against them trend. (I could be wrong but didn’t Holder make a point of saying that NO minorities would be prosecuted under the hate crime law?)
Chris you said I don’t believe white people and black people are equal. You couldn’t be more wrong (as usual) I believe whole heartedly blacks and whites are equal. I also believe that is the main problem in this Country. Blacks worked hard to achieve equality and when they got it they figured out what we all know to be true, EQUAL sucks! That is where the problems start. In the history of the western world white people have had to sink or swim and for the most part we were and are ok with that. If we want a better life we work for it we sacrifice for it and if we achieve it groovy if not try, try again.
Now you have the black people, like I said they have achieved equality but they want more, (who doesn’t) it’s how the “more” is achieved that causes the problems. Between entitlement programs, affirmative action and the Al Sharpton’s, we now have a subculture of undereducated, unemployable people who feel they are too good to work in a minimum wage job or take advantage of the education system to help improve their situation. Oh and I absolutely DO NOT mean every single black person in the Country.
The short of it is, there is no money in equal. Lots of money to be made in the equality game and the people running it are not about to give it up.
I stand by what I said 100%. Jack and Tina thanks for having my back!
I just read something that made me laugh. The “white kid” in the trio is half black. Not that it matters, he could be 100% white, he would still be a worthless POS. I guess that makes me a self loathing white guy? LMAO figured I would beat numb nuts to the punch.
Tina: “I did not find the word “all” in Toby’s comment.”
Well, thanks for once again proving that your reading comprehension is terrible.
Toby: “Cant they (black people) all just learn to play spades?”
“My reading of Toby’s comment is that white people can assume that in America today hunting down and killing white people for fun and games is as acceptable in black circles as it once was to do the same to blacks in white circles…and because of this we have good reason to avoid contact and to be fearful.
It is, sadly, a completely understandable consideration.”
No. The words you’re looking for are “racist fearmongering.”
Chris: “thanks for once again proving that your reading comprehension is terrible”
Once again? Arrogance is your uniform, yes? So you are right. He used the word in summation. Exactly how monstrous is it that he suggested card playing might be preferable to murder while at the same time dinging a president who should have been at the helm during a significant event where Americans were murdered?
“The words you’re looking for are “racist fearmongering.”
Tell that to George Zimmerman and his parents. Tell that to the old guy sitting in his truck. Tell that to the Justice Department. A recent report shows a rapid increase in black on white violent crime:
It is a completely understandable consideration, Chris. Adults have an obligation to notice trends like these. Adult citizens also have an obligation to notice when the President has acted as leader of the pack rather than leader of the nation. President “they bring a knife we bring a gun” Obama has definitely been leader of the pack! President “If I had a son he’d look like Trayvon” Obama has been the leader of the pack. President (crickets) Obama, who said nothing presidential regarding the bounty placed on the head of George Zimmerman.
Then there is the rise of the flash mob…another story the media prefers to ignore. See here.
It isn’t just white people that should be concerned about this either. Black attacking whites for no reason other than hate hurts blacks and black/white relations. The incidents of black on black violence is another horrendous problem of equal or greater concern.
Dismissing Toby’s concern is adolescent rather than adult. It’s time to take on the responsibilities of adulthood. No more hiding behind programmed responses to the events going on in the real world. Blacks will never be entirely free and equal if we cannot treat them exactly as we would any other citizen. There is no way that you would dismiss mobs of whites beating on blacks and we all know it. There is no way you would let pass a newspaper constructed label like “white mulatto” to describe a light skinned black suspected in a crime.
Charges of racism are a convenient shelter on a blog but one way or the other you will have to face real world events and problems in your life. I suggest you begin now.