Posted by Tina
The president and his supporters are pushing to get higher wages for American workers, but the nation’s largest pro-Obama organizing group is telling its footsoldiers not to expect a paycheck at all.
Organizing For Action, which flexed its muscles as Obama For America during two presidential election campaigns, announced Wednesday that it’s seeking ‘Spring Organizing Fellows’ to ‘be a part of our growing organization’ and ‘explor[e] OFA’s broad scope approach to issue advocacy.’
But unlike most fellowships, which offer a stipend or a housing allowance, the positions are strictly ‘unpaid’ and require Americans to work ‘without the expectation of pay, for civic and public service purposes.’
Organizing For Action collected $7.7 million during the third quarter of 2013, according to disclosure reports collected by the Center for Responsive Politics. The group has raised nearly $21 million this year.
Cheapskates!
Wow a non profit that has volunteers working for them! Oh My who is the devil forcing them to volunteer? We need to prosecute them!
Meanwhile the Tea party collects money to bully politicians to a corporate rule of America where humans must bow to those who use tax payer subsidies to profit!
It is a shame that we now find out that 1/3 of bank tellers are on food stamps. Citizens feed the bank employees while the banks have their highest profits in years!
Wow that is the America no one wants!
It comes down to this, a pure capitalist country means only those who make money off money are people. Those who labor to produces goods, ect are slaves and the enemy of the Tea Party.
We must cleanse America of anything not tea party! dictatorship requires that. A majority does not matter!
LOL I guess the fact Minorities and Women being a majority has the old white geezers seeing the end of their domination. No longer will they suppress the people for their inadequacy.
Mandela gave up 27 years of his life for the freedom of his People. I think the Majority of Americans can give up a few years to rid the cancer of the TP.
Had you read the article instead of regurgitating your usual hateful screed you would have noticed that other nonprofits DO offer volunteers something. After collecting over seven million dollars they can “afford to pay at least minimum wage”.
That’s the standard liberal line…if they make that much money they should pay up…damnit! They can afford it!
“… you would have noticed that other nonprofits DO offer volunteers something.”
Some do. Some don’t. People who volunteer to “get out the vote” for their party … do they expect to be paid?
And, Lordy, I wish you would quit throwing these “$21 millions” around without thinking about them. It makes you look so dim.
This looks to be a nationwide campaign to organize the rabble to political action (I can see where you would not approve), so I divided the $21M by $30K ($24K plus bennies) and got 700 people, probably spread across the country, and making mischief.
Again, I can see where you would not approve.
But not to worry. You’d have to take, easily, 300 people off that total to account for rent and, of course, management salaries. So can the conspiracy conflating … it’s silly.
Libs: “People who volunteer to “get out the vote” for their party … do they expect to be paid?
This organization was Obama’s chief get out the vote group. They “fundamentally transformed” themselves after the last election to become offsite staff for the President and First Lady:
All political all the time?
I think the IRS might want to look into that!
And with the President and First Lady directing the focus of the activity it makes sense to me that at least some of these people deserve pay. Once again this organization brought in $21 million in one year, according to the disclosure reports…that’s a lot of money…more than they need to push the Presidents agenda! It’s not fair that the volunteers don’t get to have some of this obscene wealth.
No consoiracy…just practice what you preach! And if your IRS is going to harass Tea Party groups and prevent them from getting out the vote on suspicion of “excess political activity” then I suggest you rein in the political focus of this very personal political organization pretending to be “nonprofit”.
You guys either believe in “fundamental fairness” and strict rules regarding 401c3’s or you don’t and if you don’t, then maybe you should rethink how you think about money, fairness, and government control.
And who exactly is the dim bulb? You act as if I thought these people should be paid! This is a nonprofit group, of course people are free to volunteer their services.
But your side has made such an issue of fairness and of paying people a living wage it is a bit cheap not to pay people who do the heavy lifting for the Presidents personal agenda…by your own standards.
The President will presumably profit from the efforts of the volunteers AND from the donations given. Surely he would want to be more generous!
I would think that there are real issues to address rather than trying to tell other peoples non profits they can’t use volunteers. People who offer to help.
How about the hypocrisy of the Tea Party Congressman Steve Pearce?
Pearce is a fiscal conservative who has repeatedly stated that cutting wasteful government spending is a top priority — trim the fat. Who could argue with that?
On his website he says “We must hold Washington accountable to responsibly spend your tax dollars.”
http://pearce.house.gov/issue/taxes
So we see what that means by one of the richest members of Congress, whose cut the SNAP program by $39 billion from the Farm Bill, and continues to comp his lunches with American taxpayer money.
Why did he spend nearly $20,000 of taxpayer money on a plane ticket to Egypt in order to visit New Mexican troops even after other planned members of Congress had backed out of the November 2012 trip?
He flew solo on taxpayer money to let the troupes know he supported them had 100 jobs waiting for them in the fracking industry! He used our money to offer big oil and gas jobs!
Is that more important than feeding hungry children living in poverty?
Bottom line the Tea party is all about diverting tax dollars to corporations and demolish the middle class so they can match the slave workforce in China here.
Congress is going to try and slip fast track in these last couple days this useless overpaid Congress is in session. That will be the beginning of the end of this countries sovernighty.
So what do you know about the TPP? Why is that not a #1 issue? And especially since the prez is pushing it, I thought it was block everything Obama wants?
TPP is creating a global court which over rules a countries laws and can sue you for lost profits if you do not bend over to every request a company makes from any country in agreement.
Obama has drank the kool-Aide this trade agreement was done in secret for the last 11 years by banks and corporations? Classified? No one can see it!
All cars will be made in Mexico and all car parts will be made in China all imported into the USA duty free!
Where are the jobs? Overseas! We gave away what built this country manufacturing! You want to give away the land as well?
Ya see overthrowing the gov means overthrowing the citizens for fascism. We are the gov. We need to get citizens United repealed and take it back!
Wake UP, The Tea Party attack is all a sham to get people to elect in the people who want to rid this country of it’s democracy and own every single thing. Pure and Simple fascism.
Only a fool thinks a Global court will not take your property as well.
This article is stupid.
If it wasn’t for Wiki leaks and Congressman graysons 1 page look he was given we would not even know!
The citizens of every country are pissed as they find out It takes away all our rights to global corporate control! Take the time to look and explain how you like it!
I mean they will own everything you write if they want!
Wake Up!
http://www.democracynow.org/2013/11/14/tpp_exposed_wikileaks_publishes_secret_trade
http://www.citizen.org/fast-track
http://www.citizen.org/TPP
http://www.leg.wa.gov/JointCommittees/LOCTP/Documents/2012Nov14/TPP%20Presentation.pdf
https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2012/07/05/18716924.php
http://www.itsourfuture.org.nz
We need to organize a real non party oriented, no koch/Alec propaganda party in this area. These voters are scary
Your (the people’s) “right” to global corporate control?
So you don’t believe in the right to own property?
Between Dewey and Libby we now have two participants who are willing to wear their socialist stripes!
The various socialists idealists are groaning as they attempt to discover and fashion the perfect solution. A world government body with complete control is the model they seem to favor with individual rights diminished to the point of near extinction…they might consider letting us continue to breathe in and out without direction or regulation but I wouldn’t bet on it.
Dewey you are conflicted. On the one hand you attempt to rail against it and on the other scream in favor of it.
“So you don’t believe in the right to own property?”
Yes, just not ALL the property.
Chris then you had better start supporting conservative policies. Obama is doing his best to take it all.
Your flippant attitude about this might be amusing to you but the reality in your future is pretty grim.
Ours is not a zero sum game. anyone can build wealth…make his own personal pie. Well…at least we still can but the light of freedom is growing very dim under this administration.
Conservatives want everyone to have the chance to create as much wealth, property, for themselves as they want and can.
Why don’t you know that it is possible without taking from someone else? Why haven’t you been given those keys to prosperity that others have used?
Wow, did the progressive harpy scolds jump all over this or what?
Re: “unlike most fellowships, which offer a stipend or a housing allowance, the positions are strictly ‘unpaid’ and require Americans to work ‘without the expectation of pay, for civic and public service purposes.’
Tina, get over it. This is an OBAMA fellowship. Give all, get nothing. Think of the recent launch of “White House Youth”. #whyouth on Twitter.
I joined White House Youth but all I got was this lousy brown shirt. (Thank you John Ekdahl.)
Chris’ mentorship and encouragement of his progressive peer Dewey has really born fruit in this thread. Dewey is positively manic, bless him.
Congratulations Chris!
Re #6 Chris “This article is stupid.”
Old habits are hard to change, eh? Always the personal attack. Maybe it is a genetic defect for you Chris. Or maybe nurture? In any case I do not blame you, I blame your parents.
Today is Pearl Harbor Day. Remember and always be vigilant.
https://twitter.com/USSArizona/status/409368383797223424/photo/1/large
Tina: “Chris then you had better start supporting conservative policies. Obama is doing his best to take it all.”
I’m sorry, but when you say unreasonable things like this, you reveal yourself to not be a reasonable person.
You seem to miss the point.
Start with the right to pursue happiness. To assume every human can only be happy with wealth is absurd.
Why does a surfer live a happy life and if not injured live a long life? How about the makeup up the human brain? Exercise and dopamine? How about the fact that we all lose dopamine it does not regenerate and if one is not happy there is a larger chance of Parkinson’s? There is aprox a 50% genetic probability add unhappiness and it is almost a guarantee.
What are the health costs of that?
Just a for instance
Socialist? capitalist? America found it’s greatest era when we balanced both. They are out of balance right now.
What is capitalism?
” An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.”
No Problem…however put plainly that is a system where one makes money off of money. Investments ect.
So our taxes are all to be diverted to these corporations and they to date are making some of the highest profits ever recorded. Where it looses is they then hoard that money in offshore banks and it is basically out of the American system.
So what about those who sell those goods, and produce those goods?? Do they get at least a living wage relative to those companies making a healthy profit and the workers living a decent life? NO
The workers become slaves. That is where the balance of socialism comes in. If the worker is injured to no fault of his own on the work site, capitalism says no healthcare, just die quickly we have another body to abuse.
Again the right to choose your own happiness and not be forced into a capitalist society.
Humanity? religion supports humanity, so the Tea party evangelicals are way off base. Jesus was not a capitalist could not have been, there was no money. They traded and bartered, …Hum ….
No system works all by itself. The combination of Socialism and capitalism worked the best so far.
Caring about Humans not Just the dollar.
Profits are way way up to the highest levels ever! Capitalism is doing just fine. Humans are dying and being pushed into bankruptcy.
The banks and all those illegal foreclosures? Not talking about the legit foreclosures but the illegal ones.
It would serve the tea party to get their real GOD in place a piece of paper which has no real value called the Dollar. A fake reserve note now calculated by numbers and never even actually a tangibly held item.
This next market crash will rival the great depression and it is coming due to all the crime in the markets. All a bunch of numbers with no tangible product manipulated by high speed transactions tax free.
Guess what Forcing every human to only make money off of money for wealth and forcing someone who chooses to do something else to be a slave sounds like fascist Communism to me.
Tea party all repeat the brainwash all day but never have a real discussion using real facts only what they are taught just like the Hitler regime only a more modern Corporate version. Fascism is the word not capitalism.
The pursuit of happiness is not to be forced into capitalism.. Korshi is the Japanese word.
Let’s see my large salary started out as 40 hrs, went to 60 hours, then went as high as 80 hrs a week with all travel time being on you off time….Ever work at corporate job sure does not sound like it. That is called abuse, put a person on salary then ya own them, I had no time off except in Airport bars.
Having a small town closed minded view and preaching to others who have been in the real World INCLUDING THE STOCK MARKET makes it sound like the low info voters are no more than Koch Sheeple
Again IRS regultions do not follow an almost 100 year old FEDERAL LAW PASSED BY CONGRESS!
Politics is not a tax free business. And it should not be.
The Tea Party suggesting that they should be able to overthrow Democracy for Corporatism all tax free is Economic Treason as far as I am concerned although it is a loose definition.
The pursuit of happiness is not wealth for all. A person does not teach Children to get rich. For Profit education is one of the worst problems we have. When profit is more important than education we will loose the war in the end.
Economic war by the 2% on a Global level, We gave China our Jobs what do we have left? low wage jobs where a CEO makes Millions and the taxpayers feed their workers.
The markets are rigged. Derivatives, Speculation ect. Also when a new IPO comes out the public gets the oportuinty to buy a very low percentage of shares, the shares are all reserved for the 1% before the IPO goes public. keep paying those transactions fees for very little profit if ya are happy, but do not not tell all Americans they can not live another life it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL to not allow them their pursuit of happiness the whole reason for living.
Are ya really happy? Are those who hate the so called leftists, progressives, blah Blah Blah Happy? If Hate is happiness then this is Satan’s world.
These 2 Quotes explain the Koch bros tea Party
“Fascism will come wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible.” ~ Sinclair Lewis, circa 1935
“Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels.” ~ William Samuel Johnson, circa 1775
#13 Pie: “Think of the recent launch of “White House Youth”. #whyouth on Twitter.”
When I saw “WHYouth” for the first time I read it as “WHY-oath” and thought what a perfect slogan for our Constitutional-challenged president.
Chris there is nothing unreasonable at all in my comment. Obama and the Democrats are “fundamentally transforming” America into government managed and controlled system. This cuts deeply into the private economy and that is “property”. They accomplish this by enacting, laws, regulations, higher taxation and another program, Obamacare.
Forbes:
Dodd Frank did nothing to fix Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac but put draconian regulation on banks that is
pushing small community banks out of business…private property loss. The big banks that are left are now required to spend more on compliance and have less available to make loans:
Obama’s energy policy has shut down oil production on federal lands. It has caused Coal plants to close and plans for new coal operations to be scrapped. This is all private property enterprise stifled by extreme overreach and control at the federal level.
The IRS under the Obama administration purposely delayed paperwork, stifling individual efforts to financially participate in the election. This represents a backhanded infringement, control of how the personal property of conservatives (money) can be used in an election.
There are countless ways that this administration has exorcised massive control and redistribution of wealth (property). They have expressed designs on much more.
Americans are losing freedom and property at an alarming rate under this president following nearly seventy years of encroachment and takeover. It’s gone too far.
Evidently, according to Chris, Obama IS NOT “doing his best to take it all.”
5 million at least have already lost their health care and an estimated 80 to 100 million more will.
If you like your doctor …
If you like your health care plan …
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Chris, go suck an egg. That is if you can given where your head is buried.
Just curious since my math competency was recently brought into question if anyone can answer correctly the Common Core math problem in the below link?
http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/07/is-this-common-core-math-question-the-worst-math-question-in-human-history/
Peggy forget about educating kids…what an indictment on those who are supposedly smart enough to educate our educators!
The happy news for kids is they all get an A+ for correctly answering this questions…kids today are so creative!
The law is from the 1800’s
Here is how the tax law was written in its latest update in 1954 on 501(c)(4) social welfare organizations.
The 501(c)(4) designation was to apply only to: “Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare.”
But a 1959 interpretation guideline written by the IRS says that: ”To be operated exclusively to promote social welfare, an organization must operate primarily to further the common good and general welfare…”
The IRS targeted all Political orgs rightly so. The federal law supersedes the corrupted Guidelines.
Also the Tea Party is 100% Political, they are against anything for the social welfare of the people. They are for the corporate profit only.
So Tea Party will loose in the supreme court well should but we all know these cases are sent to the supreme court to change laws and dismantle democracy which is an evil word for the Tea party unless a profit War is waged then they say it is to bring democracy to the foreign country.
The Iraq war was a CRIME PERIOD
Tax all Political orgs all of them and Churches who participate in Politics.
The pursuit of happiness is to not be dictated by an extreme hate group
It’s funny the actual law has been buried by corporate media and is hard to find
Boo Hoo Poor tea party wasting more tax payers money…fiscally conservative is a hot bag of air, ISSA and Tea party congress could care less about spending , They just want all tax dollars to go to the military and corporations
The economic plan is to divert all money to them and bankrupt Democracy for the leveraged buyout of all taxpayers assets.
gas and light companies now want to charge you for not using them…
Only a fool follows the koch brothers and friends, there are about 60 of these Masters
They want to own our land and dictate to us bar none
It amazes me that people on the left see boogie-men all over the place in corporations and they assume these corporations are trying to take everything they have. They never seem to notice the biggest “corporation”, the government, is actually doing it. What a bunch of “suckers”!
Useful idiots!
Dewey: “Also the Tea Party is 100% Political, they are against anything for the social welfare of the people. They are for the corporate profit only.”
An absolute lie! But if you keep saying it maybe it will be true, eh Dewey.
You represent the progressive machine so well. You interpret “social welfare” to suit yourself. Social welfare for progressives is creating absolute central control.
Moveon.org is nothing but a political organization and has operating unfettered since Clinton was in office. The thousands of organizations funded through the Tides Foundation are structured and funded for political influence by George Soros.
Old George, of course, is one of those billionaire one percenters that you pretend to rail against.
You similarly smear the Kochs who although wealthy, actually employ thousands of people and contribute to our economy rather feeding off of it and whose politics encourage freedom from central planning, world government/banking takeover, which Soros favors.
Pathetic!
More Common Sense they are more than just suckers…they are the enablers of this giant corporate entity, big government, that actually does have power over their lives. Many of them don’t mind because they believe it benefits them. Poor suckers are always the most shocked and the last to discover the truth. Heck, they are living through the reality of liberal progressive government greed and avarice right now and they still defend it.
It’s hard to fathom.
LOL Boogie man! That is the Tea Party Conspiracy
Who writes the Tea Party Laws? ALEC
The Government is not a corporation the Gov is US the people. Electing these Tea Party ex Equity manager types who are paid to pass laws by ALEC ect are who are running this country..
It is amazing Tea Party people create the problems today and then blame everyone else. The Tea Party politicians 100% are ALEC and Heritage Foundation Puppets.
Let’s see they give the politician a score card and if they do not do what the Corporations say they are primaried and thrown out of office.
The Government is suppose to be us, and we are suppose to be able to vote them out. But all these crooks now concentrated in the Tea party but leave no stone unturned they come with all kinds of party affiliations.
You have no defense…ALEC writes the majority of the Tea party laws and it is Tea Party Politicians trying to overthrow the gov. It is in writing.
The Paul Ryan Plan is written by ALEC and the Heritage foundation!
Sticks and stone we will get the word out
Vote Out All Tea Party 2014 and clean up the rest of the parties as well.
Ok so the Tea Party is not 100% Political
Lets see the begging letter in my hand which begs for my money as if the millions of corporate donations are not enough states the Tea party’s crucial projects that money will go to is
1) Ensure Congress to hold hearings on IRS targeting of Tea Party…that is political as the fed law states “exclusively for social welfare”
2) Maintain our comprehensive lobbying effort aimed at the GOP leadership in Congress…blah blah…again political
3) Continue our TV and Radio efforts on the horrors of Obamacare blah blah again Political and That creepy Uncle SAM with the woman’s leggs up is pure Propaganda health Ins companies still provide the health Ins. But that is heritage ect, tea party is ted Cruz a POLITICIAN!
4) Develop fully operational tea party groups in all 535 districts..blah blah…
MIN SCORE = 75% Political on that and I say = 100% because #4 is to grow a political org
Then call them voluntary tea party dues….hey do all the tea party peeps get paid? They all get paid right no volunteers right?
Tea Party is a Political Org. Spew Propaganda and lie daily
Never ever have a public debate always talk over people
It is my life’s goal to get the Koch bros Tea party out of government and you can call it lies but I do not see you offering a debate
Let us read all the Tea party laws and Bills and discuss how wonderful they are.
Privatize everything to foreign companies is not American
Tolls roads by Foreign companies for profit is not American
telling women to report to the police to be prosecuted if the have a miscarriage is not American
Stop and frisk by color is not American
telling people it is a $5000 fine to protest against fracking is a direct violation of the 1st amendment
Bachman taking down the American flag in her office and putting up the Tea Party Flag is Treason
Cruz shutting down the Gov to raise money was sedition at a minimum
Putting towns in MI under Marshall law and throwing out their elected for a dictator emergency manager is unconstitutional
Putting people in prison for owing $200.00 in IL then charging them to stay in the for profit prison is against the law
Wasting money on fast & Furious when the facts were there was no head of the ATF because congress blocked every nomination and the AZ gun laws are why the guns are being walked is wasting tax dollars
The Tea party stated their only goal was to make Obama a 1 term president and Block everything he tries to do.
I could go on and on but I find teabaggers cowards
stand up and stick by what you say do not dodge it
tea party is Judged by their elected not what their Sheeple think is going on
Pure and Simple “MY way or the Highway” the favorite saying is Dictatorship and if you refuse to look at the country as a whole and admit your goals then that is on you.
tea party has waged a civil war against Democracy and Game On
There are things the Obama Admin needs to be fought on but the Tea party skips past them.
Again tell me how a world corporate court that can make a country pay any corporation for lost profits if they say NO to any and I mean any proposal including Taking jack lees’s land is not a big deal
There is a real world out there and it is not in small town tea party meetings where the sheeple are brainwashed
I do commend you for at least admitting you love the Koch brothers, try to sell that load to Americans and you will be slammed. None the less I commend you for admitting it. The Koch’s are anti democracy and are criminals as well
They are after all the biggest polluters of our land, Amazing someone who lives in NORcal and does not value our land!
Our water supply is in jeporddy. And there is the added problem FUKU is dumping tons of nuclear waste in Our pacific ocea, they are about to release some instead of just the leaks. The ocean Boiled by Fuku. We get radiation spikes in the 70’s here. 100 is evacuation but there is no where to go as the east coast is getting spikes as well. I wonder what is in the Sierra snow this year?
America’s water supply has probs already and water is the #1 commodity right now. Watch the markets on that as the Gov is forced to hide that prob right now cause there is nothing they can do about it.
If you want to live in a country ran by the Koch’s go find a new one this one is not for sale
You know the truth who needs the links point in case you do not like Democracy
The Kochs want to tear up America to sell China Oil PERIOD
http://swampland.time.com/2011/10/03/bloomberg-investigates-the-koch-brothers/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/03/22/tea-party-backers-organized-crime-oil-theft/
http://swampland.time.com/2011/10/03/bloomberg-investigates-the-koch-brothers/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-02/koch-brothers-flout-law-getting-richer-with-secret-iran-sales.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-02/koch-brothers-flout-law-getting-richer-with-secret-iran-sales.html
BTW ya missed the last date to overthrow the Gov…LOL
ya see it is only an idiot who follows these guys…never underestimate the fact we all have guns.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/09/26/tea-party-supporter-has-set-a-date-for-the-armed-overthrow-of-the-government/
This is the Tea party in a nutshell…a bunch of kooks!
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/09/26/tea-party-supporter-has-set-a-date-for-the-armed-overthrow-of-the-government/
Dewey: “The Government is not a corporation the Gov is US the people.”
According to you that does not include Tea Party people. So in actuality you are lying when you imply you believe in, “US the people”. What a phony!
Thinking like yours has been turning this government toward a one party (Democrat) “single payer” system for decades grabbing more and more control over every aspect of our lives!
“ya see it is only an idiot who follows these guys”
Which is why the average Tea Party individual doesn’t.
As Jack has said why not go to a meeting and find out for yourself.
My opinion is you won’t because you are a stooge for the left that backs the aforementioned single party state.
Hello who said you can’t Vote? You get 1 vote per person. You do not get to take your minority and force your ways on all.
English is our language. So therefore…
“Dewey: “The Government is not a corporation the Gov is US the people.”
According to you that does not include Tea Party people. So in actuality you are lying when you imply you believe in, “US the people”. What a phony!”
what part of the word US does not include the Tea Party? Epic Fail!
The pursuit of happiness is for all. That does not mean everybody has to do what the tea party wants. At least i got you to admit this is a tea party Blog. pretty obvious.
Lying did I say you can not vote? No. You are lying when you ignore the will of the majority.
Single payer what? exactly what is single payer?
I have been to a meeting I tape everything that goes on.
I am in the middle. Not on the left!
I guess it is the left of the extreme tea party right.
Sticks and stones. I will say the meetings are a bunch of brainwash. I have the tapes. I do attend…you just do not know me or where and when I attend.
I also have all the town hall calls in many states.
Corporations have bought out the system for sure. But it is the tea party Elected who are selling out America. I stand my ground…Where is the debate with real facts and a factchecker.
As I said Tea Party politicians who all tow the koch Boy line are 100% corrupt. I can name democrats and republicans as well but tea Party 100% corrupt.
Afraid of a real debate?
Let me ask you how much money will you spend this Christmas supporting the Chinese factory’s who have our jobs? how many Chinese goods do you have in your home?
computers are my only vice… no Chinese goods i can live without. I do not shop in Equity owned stores, nor Walmart, …..
politics should not be a tax free business.
The Tea Party has no right to tell the majority they have to live by Tea party rules.
tea Party is treading on me. Do not tread on the rest of us.
Dewey: “English is our language.”
Yes.
“…what part of the word US does not include the Tea Party?”
Pardon me. Your sentence, ““The Government is not a corporation the Gov is US the people,” is difficult to interpret.
1. If you had meant to use “US” to represent “United States”, you should have written it like this: “U.S.” to be clear.
2. …”the gov is us the people” should have been written “…the gov is “we” the people to be clear.
3. Your sentence, if I understand it now, should contain a comma or a semi-colon: “The Government is not a corporation; the Gov is US the people, to help make your meaning clear.
4. Seems to me that your epic fail preceded mine, however, since English doesn’t seem to be your first language, or perhaps not your best subject, how about we call it even?
Blah Blah I have not much time when I type. Just say I understand now.
Why is everything a flippin battle?
Bottom Line the Tea Party is represented by what their elected do. While they are not the only problem, the elected Tea Party work for the enemy Period. It makes no difference what goes on in the meetings.
tea Party Politicians have an evil goal of Corporate Control Period. Ya want to make a difference start a real grass roots org and tell the Koch brothers to move on.
I still say this country needs the Tea Party people to debate not go to meetings and listen to the Brainwash.
The Blogs ect quoted are Paid Propaganda. Period it is well documented.
No one depends on main Stream media for information and all facts have to be crosschecked by different sources .
read the bills. read the agenda’s..
Talk in Circles and never address anything…typical tea party
Again everybody has the right to pursue happiness under the constution.It does not say everybody has to make money off money to be happy.
If someone wants to volunteer they can. Was that not the point?
You were saying that org should pay, then on another page ou ay a living wage is a scam, circle of Propaganda quoting the biggest Propaganda Blogs. Not even news sources Right wing blogs. Not that the word news means anything anymore.
People are tired of the hate Obama hate everything that is not want you want. Everybody is evil but the Tea Party crap.
look at Pie on Twitter that is extreme hate.
I’m sorry but Dewey is a raving loon!
So we can agree the tea party is a political organization with political goals.
They have Tea Party candidates….they have hard core scorecards for the politicians and threaten to primary anyone who does not do as they say.
In fact the Tea party policy is to not talk to anyone across the isle…demand total dictatorship for one ideology
Politics should not be Tax free. Federal law also states that. IRS guidelines were written against the law. That is a matter of record.
In fact after screaming and yelling at the top of our lungs 1 democrat finally read the federal law and brought it up at a hearing. It took the people screaming to get those idiots to read the law!
here is an explanation.
http://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/news/speeches/the-two-scandals-at-the-irs
Darrell Issa is wasting tax dollars they could argue about making politics tax free for the billionaires buying out democracy but no the goal is to destroy the presidency.
It is 2 fold.
1. They want to diminish the importance of the office.
2 when they saw all those people in the mall on inauguration day they freaked, went to a restaurant and planned to destroy Obama. Gonna tell me that is not true? Newt was there and admits it go ahead try.
How about the Tea Party stop wasting Tax payer money on these Phony scandals…
Fiscally Conservative? I call BULL, that is a bunch of crap.
The Tea party spends like crazy in congress and then you guys all bully everybody else like they are so honorable..I call Bullcrap!
How much tax payer money is being wasted? Do you hear Congress debating to change the law? No You have an elected tea party guy Issa who campaigned to do nothing but investigate everything to hurt this president.
The Tea party does nothing but waste tax payers money.
Also you pick on move on.org..who cares about 1 org doing something. And you are wrong any way. There is a bill in congress.
Tea Party candidates can not move to amend because they represent the crooks who are controlling our gov now.
There are several orgs trying to amend. There is a bill written. ya see when ya go to these warm and fuzzy meetings to learn everything politics you learn their propaganda.
The meetings are like a retail feel good meeting where you train the staff.
Hey here is an Idea let’s talk about our Congressman La malfa. The dude who split up his family farm to increase his subsidies. In Congress he wants to cut snap for the working poor. Ya know those bank tellers and Walmart workers who make too much money.
He is a Tea Party candidate. Let’s discuss the farm bill and what happens to the cut in snap. Lets see exactly where that money goes. ya think the man will pocket more? LOL
And how about the small farms? How has he hurt them? Does the man export the food we subsidize?
Right here at home. …. La malfa tea Party crook
I repeat,raving loon!
I’m sorry. Reading this blog use to be interesting and I liked the debate, but after reading the rants from Dewey and Libby (mostly Dewey) I am very frightened for this country. I didn’t include Chris because, even though I disagree with 90% of what he says he appears to be misguided but rational. Libby, well I have no idea where her confusion comes from. Maybe her past social recreational pursuits have left a lasting imprint. Dewey, well I halfway expect to read about Dewey in the newspaper some day, not in a good way.
The discussion has degraded in some cases to something akin to trying to reason with a “doomsday transient”.
I guess I will be back when I’ve absorbed enough reality to offset their paranoia.
More Common Sense, we depend on folks like you to impart the wisdom we can all use. So please feel free to use the podium anytime you like. I always enjoy your comments. -Jack
Looks like Dewey is giving Chris a run for the “Bloviator of the Year” award.
Chris: ” … not reasonable.”
That’s putting it mildly. I was going to use “rabid”. I mean, all that fantasizing about a recall? … where on earth to they get this stuff?
Chill, people. We’re on the back end of this Obama thing. All the numbers are up, but not very far up. Liz and Hillary are gonna duke it out.
Who you got?
Re #35 Dewey and every one of Dewey’s other posts here and elswhere.
“look at Pie on Twitter that is extreme hate.”
ROTFLMAO.
Yes, by all means follow me and my “extreme hate” on Twitter and make up your own minds.
Then try and read through anything Dewey The Dewp posts in Post Scripts comments.
Libby we probably won’t tell until we have to.
You guys beat our guys up before they leave the gate being the party that can only win by evil means, empty promises, and phony celebrity.
“Libby we probably won’t tell until we have to.”
… i.e., you got nothin’ … which I’m finding VERY interesting. All the darlings of the party “base” (and you can say that again) haven’t got a prayer in a national contest.
Whatcha gonna do about that?
“You guys beat our guys up before they leave the gate ….”
I see. That right-wing congressional extortion manuever resulting in the government shutdown … that was some wicked demmy plot? (You really can’t own your own foolishness, can you?)
I did enjoy watching Cruz flame out. That photo with Palin at the rally that went national … finished him. And have you noticed how very, very, very quiet he’s been. He’s counting on our notoriously short attention span. As political strategies go, I have to admit that one is a proven winner. But he’s said so very many stupid things, and we will be dredging them all up, have no fear.
Looks like Dewey is giving Chris a run for the “Bloviator of the Year” award.
Re #35 Dewey and every one of Dewey’s other posts here and elswhere.
elsewhere where are other posts? name 1 other place, ya see ya’all actually know me, who is Dewey? I see ya at breakfast lunch and dinner just depends on the day!
“look at Pie on Twitter that is extreme hate.”
ROTFLMAO.
Heck no follow on twitter
LOl Ask david Limbaugh the spin on Lush Oxycontin man being demoted to small signals…LOL
So always personal attacks …never a discussion on issues. Is it racism, or just hate of intelligence in the rest of the world….Come on Chico you can do better than this
propaganda is losing!
LOL
Dewey, we value your privacy, so please don’t try to play mind games with us… “I see you at breakfast, lunch and dinner.” We know where you are and have for a long time. Your secret is safe with us because we have integrity.
David Limbaugh, like his brother Rush is a fine and successful man with a keen intelligence and wit. Contrast that to The Dewp, a hapless, toxic pissant.
Oooooh, intrigue!
You wanna reconsider, Dewey. It IS possible to track you down, and people have lost jobs doing what you’re doing.
Settle down.