Posted by Tina
American’s have reason to celebrate the grit of fellow Americans, freedom and states rights today!
The Bundy family has won it’s battle with the Bureau of Land Management, at least for now. Since we last reported armed cowboys and militia came to the rescue and defense of the Bundy’s by surrounding the feds. Terms for the return of the Bundy’s cattle and disbursement of protesters, militia and federal agents were negotiated through the local sheriff…but not without a few tense moments. The showdown was likened to the student protest at Tienanmen Square.
Read the full story and view great pictures in the Mail Online.
Coincident that the new BLM director behind all of this was a Harry Reid senior advisor? I think not. Follow the money from the China solar company to Dirty Harry’s pocket.
“…U.S. Senate confirmed Neil Kornze, a Nevada native, as the new BLM director.
Kornze is a natural resource manager who grew up in Elko and served previously as a senior adviser to Senate Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid.”
From the ABC news story —
“People are getting tired of the federal government having unlimited power,” Bundy’s wife, Carol Bundy told ABC News.
Heh.
http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/
(Saturday 4/12. Click on “previous” for start of story.)
Ironically, these guys won precisely because the U.S. government is *not* made up of the cartoonishly evil jackbooted thugs the militia movement portrays them as. If they were, this actually would have ended up like Tiananmen Square.
And then there’s the biggest money maker of all. Water!
Again, follow the money trail.
Bundy Ranch, the Federal Government, and the Nevada Water Tipping Point:
“Follow the Money
The real wealth is in the water to support the plush green golf courses, and surrounding housing developments, gleaming swimming pools, and other demands by hotels and households in Las Vegas, Arizona, and Southern California.
The same anonymous source claims that there has been a pattern of behavior: land in Clark County has been targeted as property that the BLM can use; the BLM makes an offer to buy the property from the owner (prices vary, but it can be a very low market price); the BLM purchases the land; the property is then stripped of the water rights; and the land is resold without the right to water resources. But what good is a farm or ranch without water?
In other words, the BLM is not only driving out the cattle, the cattle rancher, and potentially any wildlife that depends on the riparian environment. The BLM is setting up a situation whereby the surrounding small towns will also go extinct. The BLM’s actions are ensuring that no one will return to the area.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/04/bundy_ranch_the_federal_government_and_the_nevada_water_tipping_point.html
I don’t know about this. The federales don’t take things like this sitting down.
In my opinion they will be back…probably with killer drones.
Remember, government is the monoploy on the user of force. You must obey every law, dictate, ordinance, proclomation, regulation and pay every penny of every tax, fee, license, penalty, fine now matter how ridiculous or unfair.
And if you don’t they will come after you and if you defend yourself they will kill you.
This is the true nature of government.
http://www.infowars.com has several articles on this subject.
As Peggy said follow the money.
Interesting, but ugly story invilving Harry’s son Rory.
Actually this should not have happened to begin with in America and did because of the current run amok thinking of a this administration that is made up of the cartoonist evil jackbooted thugs.
Less of a Government footprint, which creates more individualize freedom, from our very beginning this is what works better in America!
Why Clive Bundy isn’t WRONG.
There have been a lot of people criticizing Clive Bundy because he did not pay his grazing fees for 20 years. The public is also probably wondering why so many other cowboys are supporting Mr. Bundy even though they paid their fees and Clive did not. What you people probably do not realize is that on every rancher’s grazing permit it says the following: “You are authorized to make grazing use of the lands, under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Land Management and covered by this grazing permit, upon your acceptance of the terms and conditions of this grazing permit and payment of grazing fees when due.” The “mandatory” terms and conditions go on to list the allotment, the number and kind of livestock to be grazed, when the permit begins and ends, the number of active or suspended AUMs (animal units per month), etc. The terms and conditions also list specific requirements such as where salt or mineral supplements can be located, maximum allowable use of forage levels (40% of annual growth), etc., and include a lot more stringent policies that must be adhered to. Every rancher must sign this “contract” agreeing to abide by the TERMS AND CONDITIONS before he or she can make payment. In the early 90s, the BLM went on a frenzy and drastically cut almost every rancher’s permit because of this desert tortoise issue, even though all of us ranchers knew that cow and desert tortoise had co-existed for a hundred+ years. As an example, a family friend had his permit cut by 90%. For those of you who are non ranchers, that would be equated to getting your paycheck cut 90%. In 1976 there were approximately 52 ranching permittees in this area of Nevada. Presently, there are 3. Most of these people lost their livelihoods because of the actions of the BLM. Clive Bundy was one of these people who received extremely unfair and unreasonable TERMS AND CONDITIONS. Keep in mind that Mr. Bundy was required to sign this contract before he was allowed to pay. Had Clive signed on the dotted line, he would have, in essence, signed his very livelihood away. And so Mr. Bundy took a stand, not only for himself, but for all of us. He refused to be destroyed by a tyrannical federal entity and to have his American liberties and freedoms taken away. Also keep in mind that all ranchers financially paid dearly for the forage rights those permits allow – – not rights to the land, but rights to use the forage that grows on that land. Many of these AUMS are water based, meaning that the rancher also has a vested right (state owned, not federal) to the waters that adjoin the lands and allow the livestock to drink. These water rights were also purchased at a great price. If a rancher cannot show beneficial use of the water (he must have the appropriate number of livestock that drinks and uses that water), then he loses that water right. Usually water rights and forage rights go hand in hand. Contrary to what the BLM is telling you, they NEVER compensate a rancher for the AUMs they take away. Most times, they tell ranchers that their AUMS are “suspended,” but not removed. Unfortunately, my family has thousands of “suspended” AUMs that will probably never be returned. And so, even though these ranchers throughout the course of a hundred years invested thousands(and perhaps millions) of dollars and sacrificed along the way to obtain these rights through purchase from others, at a whim the government can take everything away with the stroke of a pen. This is the very thing that Clive Bundy single-handedly took a stand against. Thank you, Clive, from a rancher who considers you a hero.
-Kena Lytle Gloeckner
Harriet: “http://www.infowars.com has several articles on this subject.”
Yes, and they also have several articles on the subject of George Bush causing 9/11 and nearly every school shooting being a “false flag” staged by the government, so what exactly is your point?
Chris what is your intention in asking?
Harriet your interest in the connection to Reid’s son, a Chinese solar company, and the new BLM Director is admirable. Seeking information about an obvious abuse of power and a possible crony capitalist connection is never a mistake.
I found more information at Newsmax which includes the following:
Re #4 Chris :
Ironically, these guys won precisely because the U.S. government is *not* made up of the cartoonishly evil jackbooted thugs the militia movement portrays them as. If they were, this actually would have ended up like Tiananmen Square.
Could you be any more of a cartoon fool? Read the article. Get a clue.
Gateway Pundit has more background. To be clear, MSNBC is one of the sources used by GP.
Roger Hedgecock, radio talkshow host in San Diego and a noted conservative who is often a sub for Rush Limbaugh did some research on this case and it was his opinion that the rancher was in the wrong. This is federal land and it goes all the way back to the Treat of Guadalupe Hildago. The courts apparently twice ruled against the rancher. This is not to say they’ve (gov) handled this perfectly, but I respect Roger and when he says the rancher was out of line, I have to wonder if he’s not right? I’m just glad gov stood down and didn’t try to force the issue. That was the best thing that could have been done, then later let the court decide.
According to my brother who has been a Nevada resident, for the most part, since the 1960s the reason the majority of the land in Nevada is still owned by the Feds goes back to it’s statehood taking place during the Civil War. The completion of the transfer of title from the Feds to the state never took place as it did with states east of the Mississippi. Many states west of the Mississippi are in similar situations. Mr. Bundy is asking for the “clear title of transfer” to be completed.
Bundy was also on Glenn Beck’s radio this morning and he made it very clear he has paid all fees to the state and BLM prior to the desert turtle being classified as an endangered species, which documents and recent euthanizing them have since proven they are not endangered.
The major issue as I understand it is he’s asking for the land within the state’s boundary to be transferred to its rightful owners, the people of Nevada and not the federal gov’t, so his county and state elected officials can and will represent him and not unelected individuals in DC.
Bundy’s family settled on that land as homesteaders with assurance the land would be theirs to use and/or own. That changed in 1993 when the turtle was added to the endangered list and he was told to remove his cattle from the open range.
The founders didn’t envision ownership of the land by the federal government. The federal government was created for specific purpose…to defend the several states, to settle disputes among them and to act as our national representative in world affairs. We are the UNITED STATES!
I think Mister Bundy has a valid point and I admire the stand he has chosen to take for liberty and the rights of the states.
Yep, this is also true, although the founders did foresee some gov. ownership for highways, bridges and such, maybe even buildings, but they were sure not in favor of the fed. gov. controlling half the real estate in the USA, as it is today. States on the other hand should have control of lands not publically held that within their borders whenever practical.
I can appreciate Bundy’s position, but I would have to know a lot more before I could defend him on a strictly legal basis after what Roger said and granted I am taking a lot on his word. -Jack
As just a point of information – this is from the Blaze:
5. So Who Owns the Land in Question?
The federal government owns the disputed land and has claimed ownership since before Nevada even joined the union, according to a 2013 U.S. District Court ruling.
“[T]he public lands in Nevada are the property of the United States because the United States has held title to those public lands since 1848, when Mexico ceded the land to the United States,” the ruling states, confirming the federal government’s longstanding claim that it lawfully acquired ownership of the land under the Treaty of the Guadalupe Hidalgo.
The court rejected Bundy’s repeated claim to having an intergenerational right to use the land as invalid and said his arguments against federal ownership carry no legal weight.
“Bundy has produced no valid law or specific facts raising a genuine issue of fact regarding federal ownership or management of public lands in Nevada,” the decision reads.
Federal law enforcement officers block a road at the Lake Mead National Recreation Area near Overton, Nev. Thursday, April 10, 2014. In the foreground are the shadows of protestors. Two people were detained while protesting the roundup of cattle owned by Cliven Bundy on the road. (AP Photo/Las Vegas Review-Journal, John Locher) AP Photo/Las Vegas Review-Journal, John Locher
Federal law enforcement officers block a road at the Lake Mead National Recreation Area near Overton, Nev. Thursday, April 10, 2014 (AP)
It’s important to note that like most states, in its constitution Nevada recognizes federal authority over public lands:
That the people inhabiting said territory do agree and declare, that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and entire disposition of the United States; and that lands belonging to citizens of the United States, residing without the said state, shall never be taxed higher than the land belonging to the residents thereof; and that no taxes shall be imposed by said state on lands or property therein belonging to, or which may hereafter be purchased by, the United States, unless otherwise provided by the congress of the United States. [Amended in 1956. Proposed and passed by the 1953 legislature; agreed to and passed by the 1955 legislature; approved and ratified by the people at the 1956 general election. See: Statutes of Nevada 1953, p. 718; Statutes of Nevada 1955, p. 926.]
In 1934, Congress enacted the Taylor Grazing Act, giving the federal government the authority to regulate grazing on the public lands in an effort to improve rangeland conditions.
Twelve years later, the General Land Office and Grazing Service were combined to form the Bureau of Land Management, which has been given the authority to regulate public lands, including nearly 600,000 acres in Gold Butte.
Lastly, it’s worth remembering Nevada joined the union in 1864. Bundy’s family didn’t start working the Clark Country area until the late 1880s.
Would love to hear Dirty Harry talk like this about Obama and Holder violating out laws.
Harry Reid, “Well, it’s not over. We can’t have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it’s not over,”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/14/sen-harry-reid-on-nevada-ranch-battle-its-not-over/
Flashback: Sen. Reid Breaks Ground for Nevada Solar Farm Near Bundy Ranch
“Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who was exposed last Friday as the mastermind behind the Bureau of Land Management’s persecution of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, can be seen in this March 2014 photo breaking ground for a new solar farm near the Bundy Ranch, emphasizing that the senator’s plan for solar projects in Nevada wasn’t just limited to the shelved solar farm near Laughlin.
Signaling the first day of construction of the Moapa Southern Paiute Solar Project, which is about 35 miles from the Bundy homestead in Bunkerville, Nevada, Sen. Reid joined representatives from the Moapa Band of Paiutes, executives from First Solar, Inc. and the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power for the groundbreaking ceremony on March 21.”
http://www.infowars.com/flashback-sen-reid-breaks-ground-for-nevada-solar-farm-near-bundy-ranch/
The BLM backed down because that is the Obama government. Cave at all costs. This rancher is mooching free grazing off of public lands. He has lost in court and it has taken the government 20 years to finally do something and when they did, they backed down and caved in. I’m not rallying behind him and I’m not supporting the militia nutcases that wanted to put women and children in front to show them being killed by soldiers. That’s real brave.
Once again Obama has set a precedent that they will talk tough but when someone refuses to give in they capitulate. This rancher has shown everyone else they can break the law and steal public resources and face no consequences.
The government handled this about as good as they did the Ukraine and Syria.
The Washington Times gets it, progressive nitwit cartoons do not —
The culture of intimidation —
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/15/culture-of-intimidation-seen-in-nevada-ranch-stand/
Pie you beat me to it. Good article!
Anyone who can’t see the intimidation factor in these radical cultist enviro nuts is just not looking…or deeply unconscious!
The cattle provide fertilizer for the grasses and they don’t bother the tortoises. It’s in the ranchers best interest to make sure the land is managed well.
Solar panels on the other hand kill birds, bats, bugs, butterflies and even, according to the Park Service, even desert tortoises!
Of course in the California Mojave Diane Feinstein has an interest in the nearby preserve so she’s playing on the other side and trying to block the solar project.
Power, control, and money and the end justifies the means.
Tina: “Solar panels on the other hand kill birds, bats, bugs, butterflies and even, according to the Park Service, even desert tortoises!”
Of course, the next logical step would be to ask whether solar panels are causing more or less animal deaths than other energy sources. But then you might get an answer that you don’t like, which would complicate your lazy soundbite-fueled narrative about those crazy environmentalists, so why the hell would you want to do that?
I’m an idiot for pointing out that the EPA can use the endangered rules against some industries, or to run people off their land, or prevent them from developing, even KILL an entire industry (lumber No Cal) but is not at all concerned when it comes to solar?
You are inexperienced and naive. Your outrage is misplaced….and I’m done for the night.
Blinding pilots and frying birds doesn’t sound like a very environmentally friendly system.
The World’s Largest Solar Plant Is Blinding Pilots:
“We probably should have seen this coming. At the Ivanpah solar power plant near Las Vegas, a massive glittering field of 170,000 garage door-sized mirrors reflects sunlight. And all those mirrors are making flying near Ivanpah not so fun — or safe.
The Clark County Department of Aviation sent a letter earlier this week urging the plant’s designers to do something about the glare, reports KCET. The letter included two separate complaints from August 2013, before the plant even opened.
One pilot describes flying near Ivanpah was like “looking into the sun.” An air traffic controller also describes receiving constant complaints but being told, chillingly, that nothing was to be done:
At Ivanpah, the 170,000 mirrors shift to track the sun across the sky, focusing light onto three 45-story towers that collect the solar energy. Environmentalists and engineers had been worrying that Ivanpah could blind pilots even before the plant was built. Aside from planes, other flying objects are faring even worse in Ivanpah. The concentrated beams of sunlight fries birds who unknowingly fly through them.”
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/03/the-worlds-largest-solar-plant-is-blinding-pilots/
Harry Reid and this administration will go after ranchers for fees enacted in 1993 to save turtles, but won’t go after illegal immigrants who have broken our laws and done more damage to the land with their trash than those cows.
Members of congress owe millions/billions in unpaid taxes, but they get a pass because of who they are, while ranchers and farmers are driven off of their land for owing far less and because of who they are.
I was looking for this quote from Jefferson, but this whole piece is even better.
“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (Quoting Cesare Beccaria)
The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.
The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.
No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.
To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.
I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. (Back then!)
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.
Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.
The god who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.
And the day will come, when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His Father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva, in the brain of Jupiter.
In matters of style, swim with the current;
In matters of principle, stand like a rock.
What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all.
The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society.
When wrongs are pressed because it is believed they will be borne, resistance becomes morality.
Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread.
The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty…. And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.
Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual.
It is strangely absurd to suppose that a million of human beings, collected together, are not under the same moral laws which bind each of them separately.
Liberty is the great parent of science and of virtue; and a nation will be great in both in proportion as it is free.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
I have sworn on the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others.
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
In a government bottomed on the will of all, the…liberty of every individual citizen becomes interesting to all.
I’m a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it.
Say nothing of my religion. It is known to God and myself alone. Its evidence before the world is to be sought in my life: if it has been honest and dutiful to society the religion which has regulated it cannot be a bad one.
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Most bad government has grown out of too much government.
Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.
The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.
A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.
I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others.
Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others?
A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate.
The right of self-government does not comprehend the government of others.
An elective despotism was not the government we fought for.
History, in general, only informs us what bad government is.
If there is one principle more deeply rooted in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest.
It is better to tolerate that rare instance of a parent’s refusing to let his child be educated, than to shock the common feelings by a forcible transportation and education of the infant against the will of his father.
The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.
I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.
The man who reads nothing at all is better than educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.
I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.
In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to Liberty.
http://jpetrie.myweb.uga.edu/TJ.html
BLM destroys turtle den. How’s that for protecting them? There must be a huge fine attached.
https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1544484_10154014464500494_4588283261336257854_n.jpg
Harry Reid says the Bundy’s must comply with the laws of the land and even calls them “domestic terrorist” when it turns out Dirty Harry has a couple of skeletons in his own closet.
Obama administration not following the law with regard to Yucca Mountain:
Department of Energy preparation studies began on Yucca Mountain as far back as 1978. The Nuclear Waste Policy Act passed Congress in 1987 with bipartisan support and designated Yucca Mountain as the only site to consider. Bush signed a law passed in 2002 — again with bipartisan support — taking the next scientific steps towards approving Yucca Mountain.
That all came to an abrupt halt with President Barack Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) conspiring to violate the law. Fortunately, the Courts have stepped in and said that the final environmental reports that were ordered must be completed.
More than $15 billion in ratepayer fees have been spent on researching and studying Yucca Mountain. It is time that the President follows the law without a court order.
The fiscal year omnibus appropriations package allows for the funds available to be used to complete the study as ordered by the court.
So far, all of the studies and scientific work have indicated that Yucca Mountain is an ideal location for a high level nuclear waste repository. A repository in the dessert, under a mountain, on federal land. Yet the President and Reid are letting politics get in the way of science.
In the 2009 Presidential Memorandum on Scientific Integrity, Obama is quoted, “Science and the scientific process must inform and guide decisions of my Administration.”
Reid has stated, “Obamacare has been the law for four years. Why don’t they get a life and talk about something else? People deserve better.”
I agree, yet why doesn’t Reid allow Yucca Mountain to move forward? It is the law of the land.
http://redalertpolitics.com/2014/01/15/obama-administration-not-following-the-law-with-regard-to-yucca-mountain/
CNN agrees – Harry Reid violated federal law by killing Yucca Mountain:
http://atomicinsights.com/cnn-agrees-harry-reid-violated-federal-law-killing-yucca-mountain/
Turns out Dirty Harry’s the “domestic terrorist.
Federal Judge: BLM Engaged In A Criminal Conspiracy Against Ranchers:
Court opinion exposes BLM’s true intent against Cliven Bundy.
For over 20 years, the Bureau of Land Management engaged in a “literal, intentional conspiracy” against Nevada ranchers to force them out of business, according to a federal judge whose court opinion exposes the BLM’s true intent against rancher Cliven Bundy.
In his opinion of United States v. Estate of Hage, U.S. District Court Judge Robert C. Jones reveals that after late Nevada rancher E. Wayne Hage indicated on his 1993 grazing permit renewal that by signing the permit, he was not surrendering his family’s long-standing water and forage rights on the land, the BLM not only rejected the permit but also conspired for decades to both deny his family’s property rights and to destroy their cattle business.
Continued.
http://www.infowars.com/federal-judge-blm-engaged-in-a-criminal-conspiracy-against-ranchers/
Judge rules in favor of rancher Hage, in similar case. (It gets interesting at page 90.)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/144609491/United-States-v-Estate-of-Hage-No-2-07-cv-01154-RCJ-VCF-Findings-of-Fact-Conclusions-of-Law-and-Injunction-D-Nev-May-24-2013
Re #25 Chris:
Reason 1,237,438 why Chris is an ass.
Dr. Illeana Johnson Paugh has an interesting perspective on the Bundy case and says it is not as clearly cut as some would think. She says the case may go to the Supreme Court.
Lord Monchton, observing from England, weighs in with comparisons to land use in England and a suggestion for the Republican Party. His conclusion is brilliant:
Bravo! Grand suggestion!