Rumor Has It Obama Will Use His Pen to Give a Million Illegals Amnesty

Posted by Tina

Illinois Democratic Rep. Luis Gutiérrez celebrates what he hopes will become an amnesty deluge for up to five million people who are currently living illegally in our nation:

“It’s music to my ears that someone would have a source at the White House that say it’s 5 million. Let me just say, tomorrow, the next day, and all of this week we’re getting ready,” he said.

Gutiérrez appeared on MSNBC’s Jose Diaz-Balart after MSNBC senior White House correspondent Chris Jansing said that senior White House officials expect Obama to grant executive amnesty to around 5 million illegal immigrants after his European trip to Estonia and Wales next week.

Reports have indicated that the executive action President Obama is planning to make by the end of summer could legalize some 5 million undocumented immigrants.

According to Gutiérrez, such a move would be “huge” and will require a lot of work.

“If it is 5 million, Jose, then that would be five times as many as when the president freed the dreamers from deportation, when he instituted [Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals] in June of 2012. When he said we’re not going to deport anymore immigrants that arrived here as children and you saw how was it, Jose, that our community was ill prepared,” the Illinois Democrat said.

Polling data by multiple polling groups have shown that Americans oppose amnesty.

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22 Responses to Rumor Has It Obama Will Use His Pen to Give a Million Illegals Amnesty

  1. Dewey says:

    Amnesty let us just set the playbook right.

    Boehner files a lawsuit. It is obvious this all a coup. The first step to impeaching. Of Course all GOP and their propaganda machine are up in arms!

    How could the democrats even say they are setting the trap for impeachment. Those evil Democrats are blowing hot air…

    Congress left without passing the bipartisan Immigration bill all a game.

    Then GOP is all over the news when Obama takes the norm vacation flapping their jaws in iowa on our paycheck as war breaks out ect

    Now 2 weeks before they go back in the Tea party announces Impeach week 23 -31st

    Now we get the stories how dare this president sign an executive order! why GOP can but not this guy!

    next Boehner starts in on lawsuit waiting to see if they can capture senate

    Then they impeach on bogus stuff

    Crash markets

    take white house and remove democracy

    Americans are to work for $3 hr and do as told. All public assets are sold off the the oligarchy and tea party is shocked they blew it

    Women and minorities are no longer allowed to vote

    Only Old White men have a vote.

  2. Tina says:

    Paranoid are we?

  3. Chris says:

    Post Scripts 1986:

    “Rumor Has It Reagan Will Use Pen to Give Two Million Illegals Amnesty”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986#Impact

  4. Tina says:

    Yes the amnesty to end all amnesty!

    The amnesty agreement between Reagan and the Democrats with Rhino support in which the agreement was greater border security and control…a ONE TIME DEAL!

    According to Ronald Reagan himself, as told to his trusted long-time friend and U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese, the biggest mistake of his presidency was signing the l986 amnesty for what turned out to be more than half the five million illegal immigrants in the country. … The misnamed Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 was touted by its supporters as “comprehensive immigration reform” that would grant amnesty only to a few long-settled immigrants and strengthen border security and internal immigration enforcement against employers who were hiring illegal immigrants. … There are various accounts of how many amnesties were expected with passage of the 1986 amnesty. Figures range from 300,000 (Gingrich, who voted for it) to about 2.1 million. Some reasonable estimates center around 1.2 million. The actual result was 2.7 million. Close to one third of the amnesties given were based on document fraud.

    For the first six months after the amnesty there was a modest fall in illegal immigration, but within 12 months illegal immigration was breaking all previous records, rising to 800,000 per year. Friends and relatives of the newly legalized immigrants began to pour into the United States. They were followed by more illegal job seekers who saw continued opportunities for more amnesties. In fact, the 1986 amnesty resulted in six more amnesties from 1994 to 2000, awarding legal status to another 3.0 million illegal immigrants. By 1997, the number of illegal immigrants in the country was already back up to the 5.0 million in the U.S. before the 1986 amnesty. Amnesty has proved to be a slippery slope. … According to a 1997 report by the Center for Immigration Studies, the cost of amnesty for 2.7 million illegal immigrants had accumulated to $156.7 billion (in 1986 dollars!) by 1997. The net cost after $78 billion in tax collections was $78.7 billion dollars. This amounts to a subsidy per amnestied illegal of $29,148 in 1986 dollars, which is an important indirect subsidy for the employers of illegal workers. But U.S. workers paid the highest price. The 1986 amnesty displaced 1,872,000 American workers over the next decade.

    So much for the word and intentions of Democrats!

  5. Peggy says:

    This administration is using another backdoor to grant asylum to illegals.

    Justice Dept. Opens New Asylum Gate For Guatemalans:

    “The Department of Justice’s board of immigration appeals has decided to let Guatemalan women win asylum in the United States if they claim to be victims of domestic violence.

    The decision creates a huge new incentive for Guatemalan women to cross the U.S. border, because if their asylum claim is accepted, their children get U.S. citizenship, plus the use of federal health, education and retirement programs, regardless of their initial education and work skills.

    The new decision also means that many of the Guatemalan women who have already crossed the border this year have a new claim for asylum.

    “Under this breaking decision from the Board of Immigration Appeals, many [migrant] women [detained at the detention center] Artesia may be eligible for asylum,” said Ben Winograd, a lawyer who is paid to help foreigners win residency and citizenship.

    The decision was announced in an Aug. 26 decision from the Board of Immigration Appeals at President Barack Obama’s Department of Justice.

    The board’s decision likely will accelerate the rapid growth in asylum awards to foreigners. For example, the number of foreigners who successfully filed asylum claims in the United States almost tripled from 2012 to 2013, up to 30,393.

    Since 2010, the administration has relaxed immigration enforcement even though the annual supply of new labor — 4 million Americans youths, roughly 600,000 working-age immigrants and roughly 800,000 foreign guest-workers — far exceeds companies’ demand for extra labor. In response, household wages have dropped since 2010, and nearly all of the income gains since 2010 have gone to the wealthiest investors.

    Since 2009, the Department of Homeland Security quietly reversed a prior policy that said victims of domestic violence don’t count as a “social group” for immigration purposes.

    The immigration courts are part of the Department of Justice, not the judiciary.

    The Aug. 26 decision is a victory for the progressive groups now trying to help many foreigners become citizens. The domestic-violence decision likely will be used as a precedent in future immigration cases that will be bought on behalf of other women in South American, African and Asia.

    Outside the United States, hundreds of millions of women suffer from domestic violence, according to an advocacy report by the United Nations’ World Health Organization. “Overall, 35% of women worldwide have experienced either physical and/or sexual intimate partner violence or non-partner sexual violence,” said the 2013 report, which is titled “Global and regional estimates of violence against women.”

    “There is a clear need to scale up efforts across a range of sectors, both to prevent violence from happening in the first place and to provide necessary services for women experiencing violence,” the U.N. report said.”

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/26/justice-dept-opens-new-asylum-gate-for-guatemalans/#ixzz3Bc9YyZGf

  6. Peggy says:

    Gov. Brown 1975 vs. today. Was it the color of their skin he didn’t want? Doesn’t this make him a racist?

    Gov. Jerry Brown 1975: Don’t ‘Dump Vietnamese’ Refugees on California:

    “In 1975, Jerry Brown complained, that the federal government wanted to “dump Vietnamese on” California. “We can’t be looking 5,000 miles away and at the same time neglecting people who live here,” Newsweek reported at the time. According to The Washington Post, Larry Engelmann’s Tears Before the Rain: An Oral History of the Fall of South Vietnam, writes that Julia Vadala Taft, who led the interagency task force for refugee resettlement, remembered Brown’s opposition.

    “The new governor of California, Jerry Brown, was very concerned about refugees settling in his state. Brown even attempted to prevent planes carrying refugees from landing at Travis Air Force Base near Sacramento. . . . The secretary of health and welfare, Mario Obledo, felt that this addition of a large minority group would be unwelcome in California. And he said that they already had a large population of Hispanics, Filipinos, blacks, and other minorities.”

    In fact, then Senator Joe Biden complained about the Ford administration’s move to bring Vietnamese refugees to the U.S., saying the White House “had not informed Congress adequately about the number of refugees.” Liberal presidential icon George McGovern told Newsweek, “I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/07/02/Gov-Jerry-Brown-1975-Don-t-Dump-Vietnamese-Refugees-on-California

  7. Tina says:

    Peggy it seems our politicians all suffer from the expedient disease…whatever they need in the moment is what they do.

    Their unpopularity has all of them silent at the moment. I don’t remember an election cycle with so little campaigning. Probably afraid the people will throw rotten vegetables 😉

  8. Peggy says:

    Funny Tina I was thinking the same thing. Hard to believe we have an election in about 9 weeks. It’s almost like the Democrats know something the rest of us hope isn’t true. This will probably be the least expensive Calif. campaign in history.

    With the price of vegetables I think people are feeding them to their families instead of throwing them at politicians.

    Have you seen the gas tax in Calif. will go up another 15 cents a gallon on Jan. 1st? Thanks Democrats for taking more money out of our pockets and making everything more expensive.

    • Post Scripts says:

      Peggy, the irony here is the people that can least afford to buy gasoline are the one’s electing the demon-crats who stick it to them! It’s sort of justice I suppose, just wish it wasn’t also punishing conservatives too! We didn’t vote for em!

  9. Peggy says:

    It is a sad and vicious circle. Taxes keep going up to provide for more government spending hurting the very same people the government says they are helping.

    Saw this Saul Bellow’s remark today and thought it defined the DemonRats and their real agenda of control and power.

    “A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.”

  10. Harold says:

    “Rumor Has It Reagan Will Use Pen to Give Two Million Illegals Amnesty”

    This is a seemingly irrelevant argument and, I don’t understand the relevancy of the above comment, but I do understand the purpose.

    As Tina pointed out the facts(once more)Reagan admitted it was a mistake then, and in my opinion it will by all indications failure will repeat itself once more.

    If it isn’t obvious to Obama that amnesty will add another failure in his ‘legacy list’ of so many, this comment would be better served by emailing reminding Obama and suggesting he not to follow the mistakes of others. Oh yes,I am sure that will work!

  11. Dewey says:

    Everybody but native Indians is an immigrant. Question how many here can tie to the mayflower? I do 2x’s so you?

  12. Dewey says:

    Plus $500 hr to a lawyer for Boehner’s lawsuit? is that fiscally Conservative from a Congress of lawyers?

    • Post Scripts says:

      Plus $500 hr to a lawyer for Boehner’s lawsuit? is that fiscally Conservative from a Congress of lawyers? Dewey.

      No evidence of that – where’s your proof? Can’t post an opinion as a fact, either put up or be shut up.

  13. Peggy says:

    #12 Dewey: “Everybody but native Indians is an immigrant. Question how many here can tie to the mayflower? I do 2x’s so you?”

    Nope Dewey, even the “native” Indians migrated here just like your Mayflower ancestors.

    This article just came out yesterday about a burier site for the Kennewick Man discovery in the northern US. The article is rather long detailing it’s years of court battles with the US government, so I’ll include only part of the relevant information. But, recommend reading the whole article which gives a interesting historical account of what took place since the bones were discovered and hopeful future findings.

    The Kennewick Man Finally Freed to Share His Secrets:
    Douglas Preston, Smithsonian Magazine, August 27, 2014

    “The discovery of Kennewick Man adds a major piece of evidence to an alternative view of the peopling of North America. It, along with other evidence, suggests that the Jōmon or related peoples were the original settlers of the New World. If correct, the conclusion upends the traditional view that the first Americans came through central Asia and walked across the Bering Land Bridge and down through an ice-free corridor into North America.

    Sometime around 15,000 years ago, the new theory goes, coastal Asian groups began working their way along the shoreline of ancient Beringia–the sea was much lower then–from Japan and Kamchatka Peninsula to Alaska and beyond. {snip}

    “I believe these Asian coastal migrations were the first,” said Owsley. “Then you’ve got a later wave of the people who give rise to Indians as we know them today.”

    What became of those pioneers, Kennewick Man’s ancestors and companions? They were genetically swamped by much larger–and later–waves of travelers from Asia and disappeared as a physically distinct people, Owsley says. These later waves may have interbred with the first settlers, diluting their genetic legacy. A trace of their DNA still can be detected in some Native American groups, though the signal is too weak to label the Native Americans “descendants.”

    Whether this new account of the peopling of North America will stand up as more evidence comes in is not yet known. The bones of a 13,000-year-old teenage girl recently discovered in an underwater cave in Mexico, for example, are adding to the discussion. James Chatters, the first archaeologist to study Kennewick and a participant in the full analysis, reported earlier this year, along with colleagues, that the girl’s skull appears to have features in common with that of Kennewick Man and other Paleo-Americans, but she also possesses specific DNA signatures suggesting she shares female ancestry with Native Americans.

    Kennewick Man may still hold a key. The first effort to extract DNA from fragments of his bone failed, and the corps so far hasn’t allowed a better sample to be taken. A second effort to plumb the old fragments is underway at a laboratory in Denmark.”

    (Be sure to scroll down to the picture.)

    http://www.amren.com/news/2014/08/the-kennewick-man-finally-freed-to-share-his-secrets/

  14. Tina says:

    Oh good grief…don’t tell me my kids’ ancestor crossed the big blue ocean with Dewey’s! Do you suppose they were able to get along?

  15. Chris says:

    Peggy, what were you doing on a white supremacist website?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Renaissance_(magazine)

    The article itself comes from Smithsonian Magazine, so I’m not calling the article racist, I’m just curious as to what led you there. This is not the first time a conservative on Post Scripts has accidentally linked to a white supremacist site, and I find it strange how these connections form. Do right-wing blogs have too cozy a relationship with racist hate groups?

  16. Chris says:

    Peggy: “Gov. Brown 1975 vs. today. Was it the color of their skin he didn’t want? Doesn’t this make him a racist?”

    I don’t know if it makes him “a racist,” but his arguments were certainly racist.

  17. Peggy says:

    #17 Chris: “Peggy, what were you doing on a white supremacist website?”

    Wow, I had no idea.

    I ended on the site looking for information about American natives coming here by the Bering Strait, which turned out not to be true. I believe my search was, “American natives Bering Strait” and the article was listed with yesterdays date.

    I read a couple of articles on the Bering Strait migration and learned it was a theory without documented scientific proof. And then I clicked on the Kennewick Man article. Seeing it was from the Smithsonian and after reading the whole article I thought it fascinating and worth sharing.

    To be honest I wouldn’t know the difference by name between one radical group from another, unless you count Fox and Huffington Post.

  18. Peggy says:

    #18 Chris, I think it makes him a racist and a hypocrite.

    He wants the Hispanic votes, both legal and illegal border crossers, for him and his party. The Vietnam refugees were issued I-90/green cards identifying them as not eligible to vote.

  19. Tina says:

    I imagine Peggy’s natural curiosity and love of research took her to the site…you can do that when you aren’t confined by the PC box.

    The links were not accidental. they also did not signal a secret association or agreement with everything we might find there.

    You remind me of the thought police, Chris. Do all liberals see themselves as monitors of correctness?

    You pass yourselves off as nonjudgmental, tolerant and inclusive and yet you are constantly looking for an excuse to label, to judge, to point fingers and accuse. Making assumptions about people you don’t really know is bigotry. Creating association where none exists is an extension of that bigotry. You’re not perfect Chris. You can be incredibly arrogant.

  20. Chris says:

    Tina, I didn’t accuse Peggy of anything, and I’m satisfied with her explanation. If having a problem with linking to white supremacist websites makes me the “thought police” to you, then the term has lost all meaning.

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