by Jack
I was asked what I would I do about this latest beheading by ISIS. Fair question. Okay, here’s my answer.
A month of carpet bombing the crap out of ISIS ought to be fair payback. I wouldn’t spend a dime on reconstructing anything or putting boots anywhere. A few squadrons of our famous veteran B52-s should do the trick. They need one last attack before we retire them and this is the perfect enemy.
We’ve got a huge surplus of old 1000 lb. bombs laying around that we need to get rid of and I can’t think of a better way than dropping them on ISIS?
Imagine how they (ISIS) will be holding-up after the first week of carpet bombing, then it goes into the second week and third week and they will wonder if it will ever stop? They will pray for it to stop, but the bombs will keep falling. They never know if the next one has their name on it, it’s all up to fate and the aim of our B52-s. And everywhere they look their soldiers and equipment are being blown to bits like a grotesque vision of the apocalypse.
There’s no where to run, there’s no where to hide, and all around them their world is exploding in blinding flashes of fire followed by searing bits of white hot steel shards that tears at their flesh. Even when the bombs stop for a few hours these thugs will have this constant pounding in their ears as if the bombs are still falling. Some will go mad, others will hope they die by the next bomb to end their misery. Some will die by their own hand.
Without warning huge shock waves from 1000 pounders will suddenly knock them off their feet, it will rattle their teeth and they will claw the ground in their foxhole trying to escape the pain. And when the bombs fall close, usually within a 200 yards, the concussion will cause every appendage and orifice to leak blood and sometimes their brains will hemorrhage and they will die, even if they are securely dug in and
untouched by shrapnel.
And this nightmare will keep on going, night after night, week after week. They will not sleep, they will not eat, and around the clock it will be raining bombs, ka-boom, ka-boomb, ka-boom and this goes on incessantly.
They wanted war, well this is real war. This is how we do it and we’re not interested in their surrender, we’re looking for their complete and utter annihilation.
Some in the world will shudder or cringe in fear and horror because they have forgotten what we can do in an all out war, and that’s fine by us. The world should know, especially our enemies. You see, we’re the big dogs. And nobody else can come close to matching us – nobody can fight a real war like angry Americans! We’re our enemies worst nightmare and we shall do unto them as they have done unto so many others.
I would make sure that we see miles of blackened bomb craters following ISIS across Iraq and Syria, as they run like the cowardly rats they are, scurrying from one hiding hole to another…until soon most of them are dead, dying or in such bad shape both mentally and physically that they could not even feed themselves let alone pick up a AK47 and shoot anyone. And at that point we’ll let their victims have at them and do what they will. Let’s see how those displaced victims deal with the killers and rapists of their families.
Let the world take note of what we do to our enemies! PUT THAT ON UTUBE AND IT WILL MAKE THE BEHEADING OF ANOTHER INNOCENT AMERICAN SEEM LIKE A REAL BAD IDEA FOR THE NEXT 1000 YEARS!
And I wouldn’t be tactful or polite if I were the commander in chief, my speech announcing what is about to happen would be short and sweet.
My speech to the world and to ISIS: “You thugs that call yourself ISIS have threatened America and you’ve killed two innocent American journalists recently. That was a big mistake and soon you will be calling it a fatal mistake.
Maybe because you’re stupid or you’re so full of yourselves that you have greatly underestimated the long reach of the United States? Because you foolishly tried your best to provoke us. Well, it worked and now we’re coming for you. You killers of women, children and unarmed men. You won’t know exactly when, but it will be soon enough. And when we start in on you we plan on pounding you until the desert runs red with your blood. But, these are not just scary words like you spout all the time, this is for real! You will suffer greatly and if you are among the lucky ones…you will die fairly quickly.
We will show you no mercy, as you have not shown others mercy. You will not be allowed to die a warriors death in combat, you simply die. Satan awaits your soul in Hell for your crimes against humanity and we’ll make sure you get there.
Your death will be as brutal as you have done unto others, except their only crime was having a different faith than your own. This makes you parasites on humanity and for that you must die. You have no idea of what awaits, but your fate has been sealed, this I can promise you.
You wanted this, you asked for it and you asked for it repeatedly, now you’re going to get exactly what you wanted thus fulfilling an old American saying, be careful what you ask for…
You’ll beg us to stop, but your pleas will not be heard. We will only stop when we decide want too; when your organization of killers is but a hollow bloody shell of what it once was, and we’ll leave just enough of you alive so your can tell your story of what it was like when the American’s came. God bless America. End By POTUS X
That’s how I would handle it… -Jack (Did I miss anything?)
Well I am not a war hawk advocate, but I am not a sit back and turn the other cheek type either.
I do recall from school days and bullies, you did not allow them to eat your lunch, you HAD to fight back, or be dogged all term, and even if you lose say a physical fight there was amount of respect you earned, and others seemed to rally to a point it help slow down the bullying or it stopped, why because you were not going to portrayed as a easy victim. And why fight back, because school administrations(Obama, UN and EU counties are about as much as effective) did not effectively deal with the problem, and because of their verbal only’ we don’t permit that behavior in school’ only on campus could you be some what safe (somewhat, not completely), leave school to go home, you could be ambushed.
Sure I think using up older weapons will make a statement, but do it so it will have to be effective in what ever waste we can lay on them,even it it means leveling their bases or villages, don’t just bomb the @#$%$#^& in the middle of nowhere, let them feel the pain of their own actions, don’t give them a chance to just crawl out of their rat holes to do more damage.
This group of zealots only seem to know one thing, “strength through pain” if you don’t fight back with same, you lose, simple enough.
Obama seems to think (hopefully he thinks)Speeches without action is going to save the day, well speeches may be enough for a misdirected voter to fall in line and gobble up his verbal slop, but it is not going to have one ounce of effect on ISIS or IS or zealot murdering A$$’e$, what ever you want to call them. Hate is a strong emotion, they have it and using it to build a army of murderers over there, and eventually if unchecked right here in the USA.
When the hate is manipulated into a channeled rebellious action it explodes, (Recently we have seen the effects of hate exploited in Ferguson,)
So back to Jacks question, What to do, First lets get their attention, and show real strength, and if it means taking out them and theirs, just remember they sought this response.
So my opinion is, the least we can do is oblige them.
Obama said, “If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun.” He was talking at a fundraiser about the GOP. If he’s willing to go all out against Republicans because they disagree with him politically we all should expect him to feel the same about those who have declared to destroy America.
The knifes being used to behead our journalist warrants us bringing the biggest meanest arsenal available to the fight.
I do find it interesting the media’s support of Obama is turning now that their own journalist are the ones suffering from the decisions and lack of decisions by the president they’ve supported and promoted.
Fox at least is reporting Obama was given daily briefings electronically (his preference) about ISIS for the past year, but apparently didn’t take the time to read them or didn’t understand the severity of the information.
We all need to remember what the Obama agenda is, which is to reduce America from the super power it once was. Obama is accomplishing his goal just like Reagan did with Russia. With national and international economic isolation we too will implode but as the result of our own making to weaken America to level the global playing field.
As America becomes weak Russia, China and other nations grow stronger to fill the void. ISIS is one of those nations now and their ultimate goal is the US.
Peggy, you nailed it. Obama wants us weak too, because he’s just another liberal apologist for America’s great wealth. Guys like him feel uncomfortable leading and making the big calls. Geez I can’t wait until this monumental horses arce is out of the White House and a real man takes over, even if it’s Hillary! She’s 10x stronger than Obama and that’s not saying much. Barrack Hussein Obama = Worst president in US history.
Did you hear this whimp talking today about ISIS? He wants to damage them to a “manageable” level, the lack of passion in his voice couldn’t be more telling. He’s really not interesting in fighting ISIS.
There’s no managing this terrorist army – you destroy them. And when new replacements show up we take care of them too. They’ll run out soon enough. We just have to have the guts to do it. We can, but we always go for half measures, appeasement, yielding to UN pressure and crap like that. This time the situation demands utter and complete destruction of a vile enemy and selective maintenance destruction for decades down the road until it’s over. If we don’t we’re looking at a global holy war and a virtual Armageddon if not our life time in our children’s…and that will be the price of not doing what we need to do now, right now! Not next week or next month or next year…we need to act NOW.
Harold your analogy of the school bully brings back memories, mostly I saw it in grammar school.
Nothing strikes fear in bullies like a guy willing to stand up for what’s right and say, bring it on. Obama is not that guy, he’s more a duck and cover type. But, if you are in a tough spot and desperately need someone to read from a teleprompter at a fundraiser, he’s da man!
#3 Jack, I’m reading D’Souza’s “America” and like the history, our rationale for decisions made in the past and how it relates to the world we live in with Obama as president. I recommend it to everyone, because of the progressive’s control of our educational system and the media.
Obama does want us weak, so that other nations can be strong. What he failed to account for is some of those nations are full of really bad guys who don’t want to live in harmony with the rest of the world. Other peaceful nations are now forming allegiants and not even consulting with the US, because they can’t count on Obama.
Yes, I heard him say “destroy and manage” today. What I heard was “destroy” was written by his speech writers and “manage” was what he said off-script and what he really wants. He’s done this so many times in the past it’s why other nations don’t trust him. The question is why do people here not see it?
No, Jack you do not want Hillary to replace Obama. Remember they both were Alinsky followers. She will just pick up where Obama left off and the progressive transformation will be the end of the America we grew up in. The redistribution of wealth in the US and internationally is Hillary’s agenda just like it is Obama’s. Remember she said she was soooo broke after moving out of the WH they had to take out loans to may for their homes. Note it wasn’t home as in just one, it was homes as in more than one. Obama has obviously been enjoying the king-like life-style he’s had since moving into the WH. Million dollar vacations just about every other month while he’s admitted to not attending the daily briefings or apparently even reading them on his ipad. He’d rather be out fundraising, slapping high-fives and yelling “fore.” Or I should say his handlers would rather keep him busy away while they do the real work of taking this country down to the third-world level. They just want him to show up when the speech is written and not go off-script.
I agree we do have to stop ISIS by any means possible. I just hate to see more of our men and women lose their lives and body parts. Knowing this could have all been prevented if Obama had listened to his military advisors and left the number of troops they recommended and negotiated it.
Hind-sight is always 20-20, which makes me wonder if this isn’t what he wanted in the first place. Does he really believe ISIS can be “managed?”
My concern with acting “now” is our military has been cut back so much we don’t have the strength needed to take on ISIS and cover our back-side from Putin, China or other wacko nation who wants to take us out completely. We need to build a coalition with other nations to deal with ISIS, but who’s going to want to work with us? We’re in deep dodo.
In the case of Isis, we really have the manpower to handle them with minimal effort. No boots on the ground needed because we are not trying to hold territory, we’re trying to wipe them out….bombing from 30,000 feet is pretty safe and still effective.
Jack, I just saw more of Obama’s speech today and have the answer to why he said “destroy” and “manage” ISIS.
Remember all of those drugs he took from when he was in high school and during his college years? He fried his brains on those drugs. The man looks like hell and it’s like a real effort for him to form a complete comprehensive sentence.
It’s like he didn’t remember what he said just minutes before. It’s just like he keeps denying all of the statements he’s made that have been captured on videos.
Obama earns 4 Pinocchio for ISIS remarks.
The Pinocchio Test:
“With the passage of eight months, the president’s “JV” comment looks increasingly untenable, so we can understand why the White House spokesman would try to suggest that what is now known as the Islamic State was not the subject of the conversation.
But in quoting from the transcript, Earnest provided a selective reading of the discussion. In particular, he failed to provide the context in which Obama made his remarks — the takeover of Fallujah by ISIS. That’s fairly misleading. The interviewer was certainly asking about ISIS when Obama answered with his “JV” remarks.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/09/03/spinning-obamas-reference-to-isis-as-a-jv-team/
Peggy they do this because they still think they control the narrative, at least with the sycophant media, their loyal base, and the low info voters. But things are changing pretty rapidly now. Larger and larger swaths of people just aren’t buying it anymore. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch.
Richard Fernandez, has written another good article noting the dilemma our president is in and the medias reaction to it. Good read that includes this:
When you lead from the front, you control the coalition. When you lead from behind, the coalition controls you. This indecision can be disguised under the pose of “sophistication” or “nuance,” where you claim to adapt your behavior to the “context”. But it is really a euphemism for spinelessness. When you’re not in charge, someone else is. Since Obama has declined to take charge, someone else has. Because in the last analysis, no game theoretic and certainly no war can have meaning unless it defines at least two terms: us and them.
This explains why everything is so confusing. Why nothing makes sense to lesser mortals. Without a course of his own to steer Obama’s ship of state seems blown this way and that by every puff of wind. Don’t worry that he’s relinquished the stick and rudder of the airplane to the foe because he has the trim wheel firmly in hand. Yet if you can’t explain policy even to your supporters, there’s a good chances the policy is actually inexplicable. This is a possibility Obama’s most ardent supporters cannot admit. It is pitiful to watch them reduced to deciphering hieroglyphics on a wall. They’ll be damned if they can understand it, but assume it says something profound.
It is a complicated situation and they will just come back. Bottom line this is a multi country situation. Also Congress voted down the money in Congress for air strikes a year ago!.
All these commentators ect have no clue. We are basically doing stuff right now and air strikes are continuing. Collecting Intelligence to do it right is better than rushing in like Vietnam where we push them back and then they retake it
learn from history
Dewey, does it matter that the Prime Minister of England who possesses education and intellect beyond most of our leadership said ISIS as a terrorist organization needs to be exterminated. You seem to believe that is an impossible job. I agree with David Cameron, it needs to be exterminated, no equivocating here, it needs to die. We have the ability to kill it. Where would ISIS run to for safe haven? Iran, Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia? They have no where to run. Does this mean we must kill every one of them, not at all that would be patently ridiculous, although its a nice thought. We need to destroy the leaders, we need to destroy their organization, their money, their armaments and we finally must destroy the ideology behind the organization. They don’t have a lot of friends in terms of the world’s population, and by killing 50% of the actual membership we will have destroyed them and driven the remainder underground. The Nazi party of WWII was effectively annihilated. Oh, sure you can say that neo-nazi’s still remain and they do. But, they can hardly be said to be a threat like the original Nazi Party of 1939. This is what we would be looking to do with ISIS. Once they are removed as a military threat in Iraq and Syria we work on what’s left as a terrorist threat. We show no mercy, no let up, until joining up with them is seen as a quick way to die. We can do it alone or with allies. The only question is, do we and/or our allies, have the will?
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Best sit down before reading this. More than a million documents was seized from bin Laden’s compound, but only 17 have been released.
Would ISIS exist if we’d been told the truth about al Qaeda and that they weren’t on the run, but were growing?
Al Qaeda Wasn’t ‘on the Run’:
“Why haven’t we seen the documents retrieved in the bin Laden raid?
A comprehensive and systematic examination of those documents could give U.S. intelligence officials—and eventually the American public—a better understanding of al Qaeda’s leadership, its affiliates, its recruitment efforts, its methods of communication; a better understanding, that is, of the enemy America has fought for over a decade now, at a cost of trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives.
Incredibly, such a comprehensive study—a thorough “document exploitation,” in the parlance of the intelligence community—never took place. The Weekly Standard has spoken to more than two dozen individuals with knowledge of the U.S. government’s handling of the bin Laden documents. And on that, there is widespread agreement.
“They haven’t done anything close to a full exploitation,” says Derek Harvey, a former senior intelligence analyst with the Defense Intelligence Agency and ex-director of the Afghanistan-Pakistan Center of Excellence at U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM).
“A full exploitation? No,” he says. “Not even close. Maybe 10 percent.”
More disturbing, many of the analysts and military experts with access to the documents were struck by a glaring contradiction: As President Obama and his team campaigned on the coming demise of al Qaeda in the runup to the 2012 election, the documents told a very different story.”
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/al-qaeda-wasn-t-run_804366.html?page=1
Peggy, the handling of AQ Leader Osama’s papers and President Obama’s influence on them boils down to rank politics. It’s all about personal political advantage isn’t it? It’s NEVER about doing the right thing for the right reasons. I get so sick and tired of this unholy game of politics for personal benefit.
Obama is too timid when decisive boldness is demanded. He’s a reluctant leader, demonstrated by his lavish vacations and frequent tee times while the nation roils in crisis after crisis… that never get resolved. He is a denier of reality, Al Qaeda is on the run, and he’s a promoter of deception, “You-can-keep-your-doctor”! He’s personally extended the Great Recession with corp. bailouts and burdened us with the worlds largest debt that is impossible to manage. Barrack Obama is the biggest liar and absolutely the most destructive president in our history.
Jack, I agree Obama is the worst if not amongst the top of the list of worst presidents we’ve ever had. But I’m having a hard time believing he’s actions are based on his being incompetent or not up to the job. His track record of so many scandals and breaking our laws by going around Congress instead of following our Constitution is leading me to believe he’s actions are by design.
He is an Alinsky follower as is Hillary and their desire to redistribute wealth in the US and globally can only be accomplished by taking from some and giving it to others. To accomplish this people have to be convinced that the wealth they earned is bad and guilt must be the driving force to justify the government taking more and more of it.
D’Souza pointed out in his book “America” we have evolved into the European life-style of lords and surfs. The government owns the land, lords are granted the right to live on the land and surfs are allowed to work the land in trade for half of what they grow and raise is paid to the lord.
We now have a government that collects in taxes a percentage of what some individuals earn to do with what they want. It’s no longer being used to provide just the necessities to keep us safe or for needed infrastructures, it’s going for pet projects and support of an ever growing government payroll and social assistant programs.
Obama has lied so many times he’s now the kid that cried “wolf” so many times no one believes him any more. The fact he lied about Al Qaeda being on the run so he could get reelected in 2012 setting up the ISIS rise to power today should have everyone demanding him to be accountable for his lies and actions.
Wouldn’t you just love to know what the deal was he cut with Putin when he said he’d have more leniency after the 2012 election?