Posted by Tina
A Ferguson protester, Joshua Williams,who was known for his advocacy of peaceful protest has been charged with setting fire to a convenience store in a nearby town. Surveillance tapes and news footage capture images of Williams as he set multiple fires inside and outside of a Quick Stop while it was being looted. Williams surrendered to police and is being held on charges of arson in the first degree, second-degree burglary for entering the convenience store, and misdemeanor stealing for taking a lighter, gum and cash from the store.
He was photographed walking arm-in-arm with noted public intellectual and activist Cornel West and was profiled by MSNBC, where he was quoted as saying that activists “have to come together as one and show them we can be peaceful, that we can do this. If not they’re going to just want us to act up so they can pull out their toys on us again.”
His attitude reflects the main problem underlying these incidents, defiance and lack of respect for authority.
The incident follows another shooting death that occurred at a gas station across the street from the convenience store. Eighteen year old Antonio Martin pulled a gun pointing it at the officer who fired in self defense.
Bishop Derrick Robinson, of Kingdom Destiny Fellowship International spoke highly of Williams after his arrest:
“Josh is one of the young activists, and all of us have taken close to him. We got to know his heart, and he got to know ours. He’s a great kid, an educated kid, a child who knows what he wants and is very active in the community.”
Something is rotten. Until it is excised nothing healthy or good will happen.
Hard to argue with bvideo footage of being caught in the act . . . .
And I’d like to see the businesses who were damaged or vandalized go after whomever is paying the bills for the “protestors.”
Oops – didn’t use spellcheck . . . .
Bishop Derrick Robinson, of Kingdom Destiny Fellowship International spoke highly of Williams after his arrest: “Josh is one of the young activists, and all of us have taken close to him. We got to know his heart, and he got to know ours. He’s a great kid, an educated kid, a child who knows what he wants and is very active in the community.”
He’s not a great kid, he’s an arsonist and dangerous. How in the HE11 can this fool claim he’s a great kid? That’s the problem here, we have a whole lot of people in denial of the truth because they are too busy trying to vilify the cops.
“His attitude reflects the main problem underlying these incidents, defiance and lack of respect for authority.”
Defiance and lack of respect for authority is what built this country. The main problem is idiots who think they have the right to resort to violence and property destruction to make a political point.
What built this country was recognition of inalienable human rights, a strong desire to be free from tyranny and to establish a system to guard against it!
Defiance and lack of respect for police officers is a destructive, ignorant attitude. It harms both the young men and women that have it and the communitites in which they live.
Race baiters and revolutionists exploit this dysfunction to attack the institutions that keep our republic stable and our streets safe. These people count on the “idiots.” They’re like a two headed snake talking peace and “justice” out of one mouth while encouraging violence and mayhem from the other.
The problem with this protest movement is that it is phony! The so-called grievance is not supported by facts and the individual incidents have been distorted and exploited by tyrannical political factions to create chaos. All of these factions are associated with Marxism and tyranny, the most destructive and oppressive ideology of the past century!
Pull your head out of your a$$! Look behind/beyond the obvious that they want you to see and expect you to support.
America IS NOT a racist nation and the cops ARE NOT targeting minorities.
Radicals desiring to “fundamentally transform” this free nation are hell bent on stirring up revolution, creating mayhem, panic, and crisis in our institutions and economy…and they are doing a bang up job of it with the help of blind ignorant fools like you, Chris.
You have no appreciation for the nation you are fortunate to live in or for who we are as individual Americans. You haven’t a clue about the enemy within, either.
We Americans need to connect the dots!
I highly recommend that you read this article, all the way to the end, if you really care to understand the fanatics involved in pushing protests and mayhem in our streets!
More on Mr. Williams at National Review
*sigh* Notice how even when I partially agree with you, you react with blind anger and lump me in with the most radical people in my party?
It’s impossible for two people to have a rational conversation with one of them is talking to an individual, and the other is talking to a caricature made up of everything they hate in the universe.
Tina, that Conservative Treehouse article is one of the most bizarre things I have ever read.
13 explosive passages from a new book on the devastating impact of leftism on blacks in America:
“Jason Riley of the Wall Street Journal has a new book out likely to ruffle feathers among leftists titled “Please Stop Helping Us.”
His primary thesis? Following in the footsteps of scholars such as Charles Murray and Thomas Sowell, Riley argues that progressive policies and programs intended to help blacks in America, from LBJ’s Great Society through today’s calls for increasing the minimum wage, have become barriers to progress.
Riley concludes that “black social and economic problems are less about politics than they are about culture,” with there being a strong case to be made that efforts to “help” blacks have had “more pernicious and lasting effects on attitudes and habits than either slavery or segregation.” Moreover:
“The left’s sentimental support has turned underprivileged blacks into playthings for liberal intellectuals and politicians who care more about clearing their conscience or winning votes than advocating behaviors and attitudes that have allowed other groups to get ahead. Meanwhile, the civil rights movement of King has become an industry that does little more than monetize white guilt.”
Riley comes to this conclusion through a close study of black cultural and political trends, and an empirical analysis of the effect of policies and programs created purportedly to help blacks in America improve their lot economically, politically and socially.
Below are 13 of the most politically incorrect quotes from Riley’s book, which reflect his controversial thesis.”
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http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2014/06/18/13-explosive-passages-from-a-new-book-on-the-devastating-impact-of-leftism-on-blacks-in-america/
Jason Riley on Fox News Sunday: Obama, Holder, Sharpton Push False Racial Narrative – 12/28/14:
http://uneditedpolitics.com/jason-riley-on-fox-news-sunday-obama-holder-sharpton-push-false-racial-narrative-122814/
Tina, how can you possibly say, “ America IS NOT a racist nation and the cops ARE NOT targeting minorities.?” Our Nation was built on it…please check the original text Article 1 Section 2 Paragraph 3 of our constitution. The United States is a very racist nation and if you haven’t heard or witnessed racism, especially living here in Northern California, then you must not get out of the house much. Racist jokes, slurs, and outright discrimination are still prominent in my hometown which is not too far from Chico.
I suggest that you go to YouTube and search “stop and frisk”, “police harassment” or “illegal search.“ I realize that some of the videos are complete BS, but many are quite legitimate. How would you react if “stop and frisk” was a daily part of your walking downtown Chico because you happen to be Caucasian? I hazard a guess you would snap…as would I. Remember, Law Enforcement Officers cannot force one to show identification without reason and one has the right not to answer any questions whether suspected of a crime or not.
Below is a link to a video of a couple of African American men walking down the street in Philadelphia. How would you feel if you were one of these two men?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4exZ-jXgWE&feature=youtu.be
BTW…I’d like your take on the Benghazi report. Did you post anything?
Pete we have amended that Constitution several times and fought a bloody civil war to right our contentious, antagonistic beginnings. My grandfather fought in it for the North and fought as well against the bands of murderous bigoted thugs that went about the countryside in Kansas lynching people. Our Constitution was built on the solid foundation expressed in the Declaration of Independence. Circumstances at its founding made creating the union possible only if slavery was allowed to stand. But the tools to rectify that situation were also written within it and it now protects the inalienable rights of every citizen. We have also, since 1965, gone even further, granting special privileges in college entry and hiring to make up for past wrongs. Unless you intend to drag the past into the present until the end of time I suggest you begin to concentrate on what most Americans have supported and defend, freedom and equal rights. Focusing on the few, from every racial background by the way, who prefer to concentrate on hate and divisiveness is not forward thinking and does nothing to further the cause of freedom. People are never completely free until they say they are. I believe that’s a step that some still need to take.
I can say America is not a racist nation because I refuse to define this nation based on the actions of a minority few and because I am proud of the documents that gave this nation the tools to right the past.
People are prejudiced, always have been always will be but most of us are willing to live side by side with others. That should count for a lot more than the race baiting agitators are willing to acknowledge.
Please don’t talk down to me as if I were a two year old regarding race, I don’t appreciate it. I’m happy to answer questions if you don’t understand where I’m coming from but I wasn’t born yesterday.
Stop and frisk is not a racial policy. Any suspicious person could be stopped and frisked under that policy. when it was in place crime dropped and when it was changed crime rose again. Videos of whited being stopped and frisked don’t appear on the web for two reasons: 1. They wouldn’t support the narrative that cops harass black because of their race, and 2. Whites are less likely to be involved in suspicious criminal activity…and statistics back that up.
It is ridiculous to look at the crime statistics, particularly in large cities and decide that the biggest problem that needs addressing is police officers. The biggest problem is a crisis in the black family and in the schools that serve these communities. Until those things are addressed you can be sure that police officers will go where the crime is. Unfortunately a lot of them will lose their lives trying to deal with the dysfunction and criminal thugs.
People who stir up racial trouble for political power deserve our collective scorn and they are the main focus of my own personal derision.
We could take turns posting videos of people behaving badly; I assure you no race would be left out. The video you posted didn’t do much to make the persons who were questioned or the officers look particularly great. Since we know nothing of the background of the people in question I have nothing to say other than it would have been wise to comply with the officers, answer their questions, and be respectful.
Kids in general are no longer taught to respect their elders and authority figures. they treat teachers and store owners with the same disrespect and sense of entitlement. Its time we started working on civil responsibilities and common courtesy. I have a feeling if we did more about that a lot of these problems would take care of themselves.
As for the Benghazi Report we did discuss it. I imagine it will come up again, especially as the next election season gets started. Stay tuned or look into the archives.
Re: “Notice how even when I partially agree with you, you react with blind anger and lump me in with the most radical people in my party?”
I object to the use of the words “blind anger” to describe what I write. I am passionate about the subject; I am not angry.
I did not “lump you in” with the radical groups.
I don’t think you have shown much interest in discovering the truth about these groups. In fact I think you are more likely to dismiss me as the radical and find common cause with them…hence I find it difficult to respect your position, at least as you present it and yourself.
Peggy that book has come up several times on Post Scripts. You, Jack and I have all noticed it and posted about it. (Great minds, LOL) Sure hope others do, Riley’s perspective is important and could lead to positive things if the ideas are embraced and tried.
Tina, did you even look at the video I posted? If so, how would you feel? Was it right? If you did not, why not?
“2. Whites are less likely to be involved in suspicious criminal activity…and statistics back that up.”
This statement of yours makes me very sad. Are you sure this is what you mean to say?
Also, based on what your reply, I take it that it’s okay for a Police Officer to stop you on the street for no reason and ask you for your papers.
Pete, just in case you were not aware the first slave owner was himself a black man.
America’s first slave owner was a black man.:
“According to colonial records, the first slave owner in the United States was a black man.
Prior to 1655 there were no legal slaves in the colonies, only indentured servants. All masters were required to free their servants after their time was up. Seven years was the limit that an indentured servant could be held. Upon their release they were granted 50 acres of land. This included any Negro purchased from slave traders. Negros were also granted 50 acres upon their release.
Anthony Johnson was a Negro from modern-day Angola. He was brought to the US to work on a tobacco farm in 1619. In 1622 he was almost killed when Powhatan Indians attacked the farm. 52 out of 57 people on the farm perished in the attack. He married a female black servant while working on the farm.
When Anthony was released he was legally recognized as a “free Negro” and ran a successful farm. In 1651 he held 250 acres and five black indentured servants. In 1654, it was time for Anthony to release John Casor, a black indentured servant. Instead Anthony told Casor he was extending his time. Casor left and became employed by the free white man Robert Parker.
Anthony Johnson sued Robert Parker in the Northampton Court in 1654. In 1655, the court ruled that Anthony Johnson could hold John Casor indefinitely. The court gave judicial sanction for blacks to own slave of their own race. Thus Casor became the first permanent slave and Johnson the first slave owner.
Whites still could not legally hold a black servant as an indefinite slave until 1670. In that year, the colonial assembly passed legislation permitting free whites, blacks, and Indians the right to own blacks as slaves.”
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http://topconservativenews.com/2012/03/americas-first-slave-owner-was-a-black-man/
And this.
“Free blacks commonly owned black slaves in the antebellum South.
There were thousands of black slave owners in the South.
“In 1830 there were 3,775 such slaveholders in the South who owned 12,740 black slaves, with 80% of them located in Louisiana, South Carolina, Virginia, and Maryland. There were economic differences between free blacks of the Upper South and Deep South, with the latter fewer in number, but wealthier and typically of mixed race. Half of the black slaveholders lived in cities rather than the countryside, with most in New Orleans and Charleston.”
Historians John Hope Franklin and Loren Schweninger wrote:
“A large majority of profit-oriented free black slaveholders resided in the Lower South. For the most part, they were persons of mixed racial origin, often women who cohabited or were mistresses of white men, or mulatto men … . Provided land and slaves by whites, they owned farms and plantations, worked their hands in the rice, cotton, and sugar fields, and like their white contemporaries were troubled with runaways.”
Historian Ira Berlin wrote:
“In slave societies, nearly everyone – free and slave – aspired to enter the slaveholding class, and upon occasion some former slaves rose into slaveholders’ ranks. Their acceptance was grudging, as they carried the stigma of bondage in their lineage and, in the case of American slavery, color in their skin.”
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ef2_1336262149#FhlxcPm5802kzJSW.99
One human being owning another is wrong no matter what race they are, but we can’t deny the facts of our history.
Also, the fact it was the southern democrats who created the KKK to deny blacks their civil rights and promote segregation. One has to ask how far back this set back the equal rights of blacks creating the problems of today. No similar organization was created to suppress the Chinese, Spanish or Irish indentured servants and slaves, who today are not dealing with feelings of oppression.
Tina, Afraid the others will not include the progressive democrats who still want to promote divisiveness instead of unity.
WSJ Columnist: The Left Is Uninterested In A Post-Racial Society:
“Wall Street Journal editorial board member Jason Riley wants everyone to know the plight of black people is all liberals’ fault. He’s so convinced of this that he wrote a whole book about how liberals do harm to African-Americans.
Truth is, Jason Riley makes his living bashing black people. He has no qualifications to pronounce judgment other than his career-long tenure at the Wall Street Journal, the only employer he has had. Spend enough time with money-obsessed corporatists and you just might become one.
This might be why he opined so ridiculously on a post-racial America as if he actually thinks he knows what that is. Does anyone know what that is? We all have an idea of it, but it’s not like it exists right now, nor has it ever existed. Race is a part of who we are. The problem isn’t race. The problem is the disparity in treatment of different racial groups, and there has never been a time where that disparity has been absent in this country.
On the left, we’ve tried to deal with it in various ways. Some enjoyed success, others failed. Ta-Nahesi Coates, for example, called for reparations in order to lower the inequality between African-Americans and whites with regard to income, education and wealth accumulation.
Whatever is or is not being done about this, liberals at least acknowledge that there are serious differences in how people of different races are treated. But that doesn’t stop Mr. Riley, who is so pickled in Wall Street Journal claptrap he doesn’t realize how utterly ridiculous he sounds here.
From the transcript:
WALLACE: Jason, how do you explain it? With an African-American president in a country that some people said was post-racial, how do you explain the fact that we’re having this debate over race and the criminal justice system and it’s still so raw?
RILEY: Well, part of it is the left has no interest in being post-racial. I think they pretend to want to be post-racial, but they practice identity politics, which is divvying us up by race and gender and sexual orientation, and making specific appeals based on those characteristics.”
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/12/wsj-columnist-left-uninterested-post
And this.
Naomi Schaefer Riley Is Married to the Wall Street Journal’s Jason Riley, Who is Black:
“I think it’s important to point that out, that Naomi Schaefer Riley is married to Jason Riley, the bespectacled and soft-spoken opinion writer at the Wall Street Journal.
Most of the discussion of Schaefer Riley is focusing on the left’s intolerance of different opinion. That’s big. It’s a perfect example of the left’s totalitarianism and thought control. And the reactions have been fierce, for example, from Jonathan Tobin at Commentary, “Silencing Dissent About Black Studies,” and Jonathan Last at The Weekly Standard, “Mob on the Quad.” And James Taranto perhaps penned the best headline of all: “The Comical of Higher Education.”
Critics attacked Schaeffer Riley as a “racist” who was exploiting her “white privilege.” These reactions are hysterical, for example, from Cherise at Racism Review:
Fortunately, as Black folks, we have learned to multi-task—to resist our oppression and defend ourselves and our labor even as we go about our research, teaching, and daily lives. Yet, the fact that we must do both speaks to the very nature of the racial inequality Naomi Schaefer Riley claims has all but disappeared.
All that for rightly calling out Black Studies as “left-wing victimization claptrap.”
Once again progressives have proved that the attack of “racism” is utterly without content and significance. Schaefer Riley is by definition not racist. No woman espousing a racist, Jim Crow ideology of white supremacy would marry a black man. To argue otherwise is to rip the nation’s genuine history of racial oppression out of its historical context of slavery and segregation. No, the left is attacking Schaefer Riley for purely ideological reasons, out of a sheer burst of progressive hatred at anyone who would dare speak out against the abject academic fraud of phony disciplines of racial victimology. It’s a particularly powerful example of how bad things have gotten in this country.
Schaefer Riley, by her marriage, objectively demonstrates a United States that has transcended race. The progressive academics who attacked her, and her editors who threw her under the bus, are now in fact the main enemies of that obviously majestic and triumphant phenomenon of historical racial transcendence.”
http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/naomi-schaefer-riley-is-married-to-wall.html
It gets even worse.
Silencing Dissent About Black Studies:
“Author Naomi Schaefer Riley was an ornament to the Chronicle of Higher Education’s Brainstorm blog where she provided a keen dissenting voice pointing out the follies of modern academia. Riley, the author of the brilliant The Faculty Lounges … And Other Reasons Why You Won’t Get the College Education You Pay For, is a critic of the liberal orthodoxies of the American campus. She has earned the enmity of the sector’s establishment by pointing out the con games played by universities that have profited from the creation of sham disciplines and the way college faculties have insulated themselves by focusing largely on the publication of arcane academic papers filled with jargon that makes no sense to anyone outside of their narrow fields.
Having such a voice of reason at a publication like the Chronicle–which caters to the residents of those faculty lounges about which Riley has written–was an important and perhaps daring decision on the part of its editors. But apparently there is a limit to their willingness to allow anyone to speak the truth about the academic world. After Riley wrote a post pointing out the absurdity at the heart of a recent Chronicle feature that highlighted the “young guns” at Black Studies departments around the nation, the publication says “thousands” of its readers protested. Rather than stand by their writer, the Chronicle caved to criticism in the most abject manner possible. In a craven note to its readers, editor Liz McMillen claimed Riley’s post “did not meet the Chronicle’s basic editorial standards for reporting and fairness in opinion articles” and fired her. In shamefully throwing Riley under the bus, the Chronicle has not only done her an injustice. It has undermined, perhaps fatally, its credibility as a journal of thought as well as making it clear it will no longer countenance any dissent from academia’s wisdom on race and gender studies.”
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/05/08/chronicle-of-higher-education-naomi-schaefer-riley-silences-dissent-racism-black-studies/
Pete I watched about half of the video. I got frustrated because staring at blue sky is not all that compelling. This is what I did notice. 1.The two people involved did not assume a cooperative attitude, and 2. The street language offends me whether uttered by the police officers or the two individuals and seems to be pretty typical of the sorry state of our culture.
To comment further, I don’t know a thing about these individuals or the neighborhood they are in. I have to assume the officers are very familiar with both the neighborhood and the goings on there.
I cannot, given these observations, comment one way or another about how I would “feel” in the same situation. I can tell you that I have a great deal o empathy for the people that are stuck living in dangerous, poor neighborhoods. I can’t imagine how difficult it is for parents to keep their kids safe and, as they mature, on the straight and narrow. Bad influences, trouble, and crime are all around them. Peer pressure from the worst elements is strongly competitive with parental sensibilities. Some kids are stuck in situations where their parent/s have already given in to that pressure. Having said that, the officers job is no picnic. Street thugs send a fearsome message not to cooperate with the police. Black activists spread the word that the cops are out to get them. Add to that the lack of instruction about good manners and respect for authority and you have a situation that is bound to become constantly contentious.
I have said nothing will change until the black adults begin to address the underlying problems that plague these communities. One of the things these parents would be wise to at least consider is that the Democrats that have thrown money at their problems have done little to educate the kids or encourage intact families. In fact many of their programs and alliances have worked against improvement. The lure of welfare discourages personal effort and marriage. The pact with education ensures that reforms in the schools are not forthcoming. Republicans have suggested reforms that are at least different and worth trying. School vouchers and support for charter schools (competition) are met with dismissive rejection from Democrats/teachers unions. They claim conservative republicans are only interested in making money and not improving education when the exact opposite is true.
I think you have misunderstood my purpose in posting about black kids acting from a mob mentality. I ask you to look a bit deeper.
“This statement of yours makes me very sad. Are you sure this is what you mean to say? … I take it that it’s okay for a Police Officer to stop you on the street for no reason and ask you for your papers.”
Excuse me but you don;t know the officers in your video had “no reason.” Secondly, if I have nothing to hide and have not been involved in a crime or have information about criminal activity, which is true for me, it is unlikely I would be stopped. Police officers go where the crime is and question people that might have knowledge of crime. The officers in your video mentioned a drug house (where these kids were hanging out). I have a few questions for you: 1. What if the cops did have knowledge of their involvement in a crime? 2. Why were the kids hanging out on the steps of a drug house instead of making sure they spent their time safely away from trouble? 3. Given the number of black on black murders why would they not stay away from such a place? 4. What have they been told that might prejudice them against the police with the result that their attitudes work against them?
White sympathy does nothing to solve the problems that black (and other minorities and poor whites) suffer. How many of them can be attributed to the unintended consequences of policies we tried and desperately cling to simply because a political fight makes it impossible to try something new? If we want to feel something try shame, maybe we should start there! It is shameful to keep going down the same road when kids are dying in the streets and being lost to crime and deprivation.
Peggy the information you posted brings up the importance of a complete education. Education in our schools has not included this side of the story which creates a more complete picture of our heritage and makes it easier to firmly conclude, as you have, that “One human being owning another is wrong no matter what race they are.” In doing so we also recognize and confirm the underlying principles that guided our founders in writing the Declaration and Constitution.
Those who fought to form our republic knew the contentions of the day among the states regarding slave ownership. they had to overcome that fight to form the union but those who abhorred slavery also were wise enough to know the document had to contain provisions that would facilitate the change that had to come if the union was to stand up to the principles of freedom and equality they embraced. It’s because of this that the nation has been able to move and strive toward ending the bigotry and hatred that denied civil rights.
The current goings on are a step backwards. It sickens me that there are those among us who want to keep it that way for their own political and financial gains and rewards.
Pete, if you’re still with us, may I direct your attention to this American thinker article. It was written by a police officer and it might provide another perspective on conditions in the communities that officers serve.
Can we at least agree that slavery is horrid? Can we at least agree that Republicans — not Democrats — fought to end that horrid institution in the south? Can we agree that it was Democrat legislators who, 100 years later, fought against two civil rights bills? It was Republicans who fought for civil rights. It is Democrats who seek to keep blacks colored folks on the plantation.
Sure, I’ll be happy to agree with that because its all true.
Can we also agree that there have been almost a dozen Democrat politicians on the national level who have been a member of the KKK.
Ku Klux Klan members in United States politics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_members_in_United_States_politics
Can we also agree that the biased media has pages and pages about Steve Scalise’s speech back in 2002 while you’d be hard pressed to find a single article written by them not counting Fox or The Blaze.
Not having Fox News, because of the contract dispute with Dish, I didn’t see say this.
Krauthammer Hits Scalise ‘Double Standard’: Obama ‘Didn’t Just Wander Into’ Rev. Wright’s Church Once [VIDEO]:
http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/30/krauthammer-hits-scalise-double-standard-obama-didnt-just-wander-into-rev-wrights-church-once-video/
Correction. The above should have read.
“… while you’d be hard pressed to find a single article written by them, not counting Fox or The Blaze, about Obama and the Rev. Wright connection.