“Whopping” 87% Get Obamacare Subsidies!

Posted by Tina

Gee if you were Berger King or Wendy’s how long would you survive as a business if you gave 87% of your Burgers out for free? The comparison isn’t exact of course, but the underlying absurdity should make the point. How can our government pretend to be able to afford the bureaucracy required to administer this program or the cost of these subsidies without charging ridiculous prices for those few who pay, going into deep debt, failing to deliver quality care or all three? The ability to print money and rack up debt is the only thing that will keep this scheme alive. In the real world it would already have failed.

This year the Supreme Court will hear a case that could bring an end to this dreadfully ill-conceived law. Hopefully this time John Roberts will see the writing on the wall.

01/01/15 Content and headline edited for accuracy…thanks More Common Sense! I’d plead dyslexia but it’s more likely the result of a senior disorder 😉

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7 Responses to “Whopping” 87% Get Obamacare Subsidies!

  1. Peggy says:

    The democrats and Obama were informed by Gruber the Affordable Care Act was not affordable because it didn’t have price controls

    Obama adviser Gruber admitted ObamaCare might not be affordable:

    “President Obama’s health care adviser Jonathan Gruber admitted that the Affordable Care Act might not be affordable while he was writing the bill with the White House.

    As Gruber continues to withhold documents while he awaits a call-back for more testimony before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee in the new year, more information is coming to light detailing what went into the writing of the health-care law. (RELATED: Daily Caller Publishes First Video Of Gruber Calling The American People ‘Stupid’).

    Gruber said that ObamaCare had no cost controls in it and might not be affordable in an October 2009 policy brief, presented here exclusively by TheDC. At the time, Gruber had already personally counseled Obama in the Oval Office and served on Obama’s presidential transition team. Obama, meanwhile, told the American people that their premiums would go down dramatically.

    “The problem is it starts to go hand in hand with the mandate; you can’t mandate insurance that’s not affordable. This is going to be a major issue,” Gruber admitted in an October 2, 2009 lecture, the transcript of which made up the policy brief.

    “So what’s different this time? Why are we closer than we’ve ever been before? Because there are no cost controls in these proposals. Because this bill’s about coverage. Which is good! Why should we hold 48 million uninsured people hostage to the fact that we don’t yet know how to control costs in a politically acceptable way? Let’s get the people covered and then let’s do cost control.”

    Gruber also said that the only way to control costs is to effectively deny treatment.

    “The real substance of cost control is all about a single thing: telling patients they can’t have something they want. It’s about telling patients, ‘That surgery doesn’t do any good, so if you want it you have to pay the full cost.’”

    “There’s no reason the American health care system can’t be, ‘You can have whatever you want, you just have to pay for it.’ That’s what we do in other walks of life. We don’t say everyone has to have a large screen TV. If you want a large screen TV, you have to pay for it. Basically the notion would be to move to a level where everyone has a solid basic insurance level of coverage. Above that people pay on their own, without tax-subsidized dollars, to buy a higher level of coverage.”

    And despite the president’s pitches to the contrary, Obama also knew that his health care bill was unlikely to control costs, Gruber said.

    “I wish that President Obama could have stood up and said, ‘You know, I don’t know if this bill is going to control costs. It might, it might not. We’re doing our best. But let me tell you what it’s going to do…” Gruber said on a San Francisco podcast in 2012.

    “If he could make that speech? Instead, he says ‘I’m going to pass a bill that will lower your health care costs.’ That sells. Now, I wish the world was different. I wish people cared about the 50 million uninsured in America…But, you know, they don’t. And I think, once again, I’m amazed politically that we got this bill through.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/30/obama-adviser-jonathan-gruber-in-200-obamacare-will-not-be-affordable/

    This is just more proof idiots were/are in control. Any business plan has to include a cost of goods component to know what the product will cost and how much it has to be offered at.

    According to Gruber ObamaCare was set up to fail from the beginning with the costs running higher than returns and hiding the cost from voters until after the bill was passed.

  2. Post Scripts says:

    78% get subsidies? We can’t run an insurance program like that! What a colossal and epic fail.

    Why am I not surprised?

  3. Peggy says:

    Off Topic.

    Happy New Year!

    Creationists Hit ‘Intolerant Liberals’ With Pointed New Year’s Eve Billboard Message in Times Square:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/12/31/creationists-unveil-a-pointed-new-years-eve-message-in-times-square/

  4. Tina says:

    Gruber: ” I wish the world was different. I wish people cared about the 50 million uninsured in America…But, you know, they don’t.”

    What a colossal lie!

    A. The reason people can’t afford basic healthcare, and a lot of other things, is because our government has outsmarted itself. It takes a whopping amount of money out of the private sector and year after year JUST KEEPS GROWING. We are $18 trillion in debt and $266 billion is needed today just to service the debt. We needed to generate $248 billion this year just to pay for federal pensions. These very large figures don’t come close to describing the enormity of the cost of the enormous, overextended, federal bureaucracy and we haven’t begun to talk about the amount of money needed for the various programs and budgets.

    The people don’t seem to understand that this money has to be generated out here in the private sector.

    When government takes this much of the wealth we generate by our investment and labor it hamstrings and defeats the greater machine that feeds us and the government. Our gears are all bound up…we are badly in need of repairs. We need to dismantle the leviathan that is strangling all of us.

    America is dying because of programs like Obamacare and the sense of dependency and need they generate.

    B. When people can keep more of what they earn for themselves they not only can afford the things their families need but they can also save and invest. All three (spending, investing, saving) contribute to growth in an economy. The more the private sector has, the more of what they have gets invested back into the economy. This is what generates abundance in the economy and a plethora of jobs!

    When people have excess, disposable income, they also give to good causes. Our history shows that one of those “good causes” has been charitable hospitals and clinics, doctors who personally treated people for less when it was obvious a patient couldn’t afford his fee, and hospitals that made enough PROFIT that they could afford to improve AND absorb losses when people could not pay.

    C. Prior to our government thinking itself the Giver and Savior to end all other giving, our citizens did not feel entitled to services and did expect to pay for whatever treatment they received. They bought insurance as a safety net for unexpected and costly healthcare needs. Costs were lower because expenses were lower. Heritage summarizes the challenge of the rising expenses and losses for doctors under Obamacare, Medicare and Medicade for those interested. NPR reports on a rule (regulation) that will harm doctors and some patients receiving subsidies.

    D. The American people are not stupid. Given accurate information they usually make the right decision. Unfortunately Obamacare was sold, and the law was passed, deceitfully.

    It needs to be gone and real reforms that empower patients and doctors must be put in place. Likewise our greedy, wasteful federal government must be cut down to size so that opportunity will once again be available and the people can flourish. We don’t work, like slaves, to enrich the federal government, we work to enrich ourselves and our families. Strong independent people and families make for a strong nation.

    Mr. Gruber needs to get back in touch with his heritage!

  5. More Common Sense says:

    I have to point out that the article linked to this post says 87%, not 78%. It’s even worse than you thought.

  6. Chris says:

    Peggy at #3:

    The Blaze article says:

    “Ham and his organization hope that the message drives home the notion that there are people in society who are intolerant against the Christian message, that there is no neutral position when it comes to Christ and that true freedom can only be found in Jesus.”

    Hilarious. “Stop being so intolerant of our beliefs, and by the way, our beliefs are the only correct ones and everyone else is wrong.”

    “Ham has been in the headlines lately after his Ark Encounter amusement park was dealt a blow when Kentucky officials decided to pull tax incentives over concerns about allegedly discriminatory employment practices.”

    How dare the government not give Ham tax incentives for refusing to hire non Christians! The government has no right to intolerate Hams’s intolerance!

  7. Libby says:

    Didn’t I tell you it was “single payer” in disguise?

    But not a very good disguise … and nothing like single payer … but, I suppose, it’s a start.

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