by Jack
The Army just announced they’re going to prosecute Sgt. Bowie Bergdahl for desertion and several other lesser offenses. (About time) This made the President’s press conference with Bergdahl’s parents look completely foolish and inappropriate.
I remember Obama walking out of the White House with his arm around Bergdahl’s mother and his father (who looked like a Taliban) was trailing behind. We have email that this father had actually encouraged his son to desert! That makes him pretty low in my book and he’s getting this special treatment in our White House? 
Looking back on that ridiculous moment, as the Army moves forward with their charges, President Obama should be ashamed. He got it wrong again. He used incredibly poor judgment – we were not please he swapped 5 Taliban commanders for 1 deserter.
The Bergdahl’s didn’t deserve to be in White House getting praise from our president. And when you think about the price we paid for Bergdahl’s release, wow, you have to feel sold out! I sure do. Then to top it off, we’ve got the dumbest person in D.C., Susan Rice, Obama’s mouthpiece proclaiming to the press and all of America, Sgt. Bergdahl… “has served his country with honor and distinction.” Oh, give us a break!
This was all spin! The Obama Administration was once again caught trying to create a false narrative to fool the American public. This was really more about Obama having a chance to reduce the Gitmo population to close it through this swap and at the same time to gain a little good press in the process. This was all a deception to make us think what Obama did was wonderful… when it wasn’t, not even close! It was just another blunder among a long list of blunders that has hurt us and our allies. Like I said earlier, worst president ever.
Obama is in my opinion the worst I’ve ever seen and I am 57. I don’t think any president in our history has been this awful. we would have to look to Europe to find a worse ruler or dictator. his thinking is not in synch with your average American and he has done to much damage. I think its going to be real hard for the demonrats to get another president in there. if the republicans will give us a decent candidate it should be a landslide for them.
Agree Dan the Man. Almost every day it’s another horrendous act by this incompetent community organizer. This one, besides violating our laws by not notifying Congress before he released the five terrorist for Bergdahl, has put our country in more danger with them returning to Yemen in just a few weeks.
We all heard Susan Rice lie again with her, “he served his country with honor” statement.
My theory is besides getting these five really bad guys out of Gitmo so Obama would be one big step closer to closing it, I believe the talking point of not leaving our men behind was to offset the fact they left four men to die in Benghazi. Just listen to the videos when Bergdahl was released and you hear it said most of the time.
Peggy: “the fact they left four men to die in Benghazi.”
Peggy, that is not a fact. No one was “left to die” in Benghazi. Surely you know this by now.
Jack: “I remember Obama walking out of the White House with his arm around Bergdahl’s mother and his father (who looked like a Taliban)”
Huh. To me he looked like a member of Duck Dynasty. :p
The fact is that many prominent Republican congressmen, including McCain, McConnell, and Inhofe called on the president to do “anything he can” to get Berghdal released, then turned around and hypocritically criticized the deal.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/03/bowe-bergdahl-release_n_5439644.html
Regardless of Berghdal’s desertion, he was still our only living POW and leaving him behind would have been bad for America. Prisoner swaps like this have been done many times before in our history, so Obama did not set any kind of precedent here. Once again he is being criticized as “the worst” for doing the same thing many other presidents have done, and which Republicans asked him to do.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-06-10/opinion/ct-oped-0610-prisoner-20140610_1_prisoner-exchange-bowe-bergdahl-prisoner-transfer
Chris, those were all good comments and I understand where you are coming from, but on the other side I think there were options available… other than releasing 5 Taliban commanders. That is what everyone is grousing about now, not that we didn’t want him released.
Here’s a thought: Suppose the Army released the results of their investigation several years ago. And Obama said in that case he (Bergdahl) is responsible for his own fate, he made a choice and now we owe this man nothing. Would this be bad for America? Remember, we cut loose a number of turncoats in North Korea after the truce. Why is this one deserter any better than them?
We paid a dear price to get Bergdahl back in the early days before we were sure he was a deserter. That was more than enough for this guy.
If it were my call at the time, I would have had Bergdahl tried in abstentia. This is not uncommon when persons have fled our jurisdiction. If the verdict was guilty of desertion then he suddenly becomes a low value prisoner for the Taliban. In that light we likely would have been able to negotiate with more leverage.
Lastly, re McCain, et al, knowing OBAMA as we do, why would anyone with half a brain give this man license to do anything he can? There’s something wrong with this story. I can’t even imagine democrats giving him that kind of blank check, let alone republicans! I’m sure if you examine what they were saying in its full context you’ll find they would never have agreed to that sort of prisoner swap. It was a bad deal they didn’t expect Obama to make. I’m pretty sure they thought they would be consulted first too, which is the law so thats another reason to be angry and critical of this bad deal.
Chris: “Peggy, that is not a fact. No one was “left to die” in Benghazi. Surely you know this by now.”
Surely, you’ll admit that many of us believe four men died in Benghazi because we did not send ANY type of aide to rescue them.
Nit picking over the opinions of many does not change the fact that four men did die in Benghazi and Bergdahl was traded for five known terrorist with this administration using the, “we leave no one behind,” as the narrative.
My new thinking is the army is paying Obama back by waiting until just weeks before the five terrorist are free to return to their full-time terrorist duties and work on another attack on us before releasing the ruling on Bergdahl. The army has had the completed report since last October. Why didn’t they release it months ago? Did they pull an Obama-like slow walk to plan the report’s release to be fresh in everyone’s mind timed to the terrorist release? No proof, just strangely coincidental. Remember army Gen. Petraeus was head of the CIA during Benghazi. He was removed after not agreeing with the talking points and his long affair suddenly became an issue resulting in his dismissal. (Oh we can’t forget Hillary did the same on steroids so we can all expect she will meet the same fate as the General, right?)
You all did hear Petraeus is back at work for the WH?
Gen. Petraeus’s Light Punishment:
“Granted, Americans love a comeback story.
But it is astonishing how quickly David Petraeus seems to have bounced back from the sordid aftermath of his extramarital affair, which cost him his job running the Central Intelligence Agency and added a rap sheet to the carefully managed legacy of the most famous American general of his generation.
Compared with the Obama administration’s aggressive prosecution of whistle-blowers and other leakers of classified information, Mr. Petraeus stands to emerge largely unscathed despite the extraordinarily poor judgment he showed while serving in one of the nation’s most critical national security jobs.
Abbe Lowell, an attorney for Stephen Kim, a former State Department contractor serving a 13-month term for leaking information about North Korea to Fox News, complained in a letter to the Department of Justice that the disposition in Mr. Petraeus’s case showed a “profound double standard.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/opinion/gen-petraeuss-light-punishment.html?_r=0
I think most people are of the opinion that Bergdahl’s court martial was long delayed because some in the Army and Obama were hoping the case would just fade away and it could be disposed of without much notice…uh, ain’t gonna happen now. Obama made sure of that the day he held the big press conference in the Rose Garden. Pretty dumb to try and have it both ways.
Peggy: “Surely, you’ll admit that many of us believe four men died in Benghazi because we did not send ANY type of aide to rescue them.”
Of course I’ll admit that many believe that. It’s just a factually disproven belief. Help was sent:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/benghazi.asp
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/26/who-was-glen-doherty/
Far more died in embassy attacks under the Bush administration. Far more died in embassy attacks under the Reagan administration. Continuing to repeat “four men died in Benghazi,” as if people don’t know that, and using that as a political tool, is unjust.
Chris, you’re wrong. It is not “unjust” or a “political tool” to want to know the truth of what happened. Trey Gowdy’s committee is still getting information that hasn’t been presented. Like Hillary’s “personal” emails with months of absolutely no emails sent by her. There’s even a picture of her texting on her phone that day, but no record of it was provided.
So please stop trying to say everything that needs to be known has been discovered when the facts prove all of the information has not be disclosed.
Also, my point wasn’t that four men died in Benghazi. It was that Bergdahl was the political tool so this administration could use the, “we leave no one behind” after being accused of leaving the four men in Benghazi behind.
Everything this administration does is political. If they were putting the country first we and the whole world would not be in the god awful mess we’re in.
“Chris, you’re wrong. It is not “unjust” or a “political tool” to want to know the truth of what happened.”
Of course it’s not, but that’s not what I said.
“Trey Gowdy’s committee is still getting information that hasn’t been presented”
It really, really isn’t.
“Also, my point wasn’t that four men died in Benghazi. It was that Bergdahl was the political tool so this administration could use the, “we leave no one behind” after being accused of leaving the four men in Benghazi behind.”
But that accusation was false, Peggy.
Many have died in embassy attacks. Many Died in the Iraq war that was a lie. Many die at home and abroad on false flag operations.
News Flash Obama is in his last years. The hate club needs a new line.
It is true more people died in the Bush Admin embassy attacks. And why is it only these 4 lives matter?
Why not the thousands fighting in these wars?
We leave no man on the battlefield. Now we do not have the facts yet do we? So are we going to try another case in the media?
I personally think Sgt. Bowie Bergdah went through 5 years of torture. Life in prison is not warranted.
Also our soldiers no longer will allow to be lied to, go to war, and be OK 100%. All these lies for war has to stop. Our citizens are not expendable pawns for profit, greed and power.
I can tell this is the Fox news crowd where you just gobble up their paid propaganda.
Trey Gowdy is just a paid shrill. it’s all campaigning. Congress does nothing but campaign for power to take over democracy for control by their donors. trey has personal email he has used. he is a hypocrite.
Whether Republican or Democrat the elite get a different set of rules. Patreaus? Yep he has the knowledge, but got off after giving a possible spy classified info? Where is the upset about that.
There are the elite and the serfs. We are all serfs including Sgt. Bowie Bergdah.
I love it the next election campaign is benghazzi benghazzi iran iran, Same as the last election. Move on.
“Many have died in embassy attacks. Many Died in the Iraq war that was a lie. Many die at home and abroad on false flag operations.
News Flash Obama is in his last years. The hate club needs a new line. ” Georgia
News flash: Obama is the president of the United States until January 17th 2017. The president is answerable to the people. He does not get a free pass because he is a short timer. Labeling those who try to hold the president accountable for his dangerously bad judgment as the “hate club” reflects either low intelligence or partisan politics at its worst. Either way an injustice has been done.
Yes Peggy, you are being very honest with this statement, ‘So please stop trying to say everything that needs to be known has been discovered when the facts prove all of the information has not be disclosed.’ way more than the SOS Clinton or the WH.
Interesting that most of all the denial or refusal to answer these questions directly goes back to Clinton, who served at Obamas pleasure ,and was answerable to him.
And now we get a Alinsky style Liberal innuendo tactic that Bush and Reagan might have been just as guilty of such embassy attacks and resulting deaths on their watch, creating the subtle inference they were dealt with in the same manner.
Sure when lead balloons float! Total Liberal BS!
Peggy and Harold, I have a question for you. Do you think I should bother responding to Georgia? This person is so far out there I’m pretty sure they are unreachable with logic or facts.
No Jack I wouldn’t. It would be a waste of your time. He/she’s sounding more and more like Dewey.
Here’s a great front page from the Boston Herald. (Scroll down past the tweet posts.)
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/03/281742-boston-herald-takes-hard-hitting-shot-obama-bergdahls-desertion-charge/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=organic&utm_content=conservativedaily&utm_campaign=Media
The similarities between the Bergdahl and Benghazi stories is conservatives wouldn’t let either of them be slow walked until the public lost interest and they were allowed to fade away.
Bill O’Reilly has been hounding the Bergdahl story on his show demanding the army report from last year be released. It was only because of his and a few others that the story was kept alive and in the public’s view.
The same with Benghazi with the help of Trey Gowdy and the never ending news leaks about Hillary’s involvement and email scandal that this story too has been kept alive all of these years.
The slow walking until they can declare it as “old news” worked for Fast and Furious, but not any more.
We are owed the truth and with honest people’s efforts we will know it.
Nope the multi named ‘georgia’ is just a speed bump in the path of honest discussion.
Harold: “And now we get a Alinsky style Liberal innuendo tactic that Bush and Reagan might have been just as guilty of such embassy attacks and resulting deaths on their watch, creating the subtle inference they were dealt with in the same manner.”
Oh, I certainly didn’t mean for my comment to contain any “innuendo” or to create a “subtle inference.” So in case I was too subtle, let me make my position abundantly clear: Bush and Reagan bear just as much responsibility for similar attacks that occurred under their watch as Obama is for Benghazi, and many of those attacks were handled in much the same way as Benghazi.
For example, the Beirut attacks during Reagan’s presidency could have been prevented, but known lapses in security were not taken care of. Yet despite more casualties, no one attempted to make any of these attacks into a scandal dwarfing Watergate. No one called for Reagan’s impeachment over the attacks.
From the New Yorker:
There were more than enough opportunities to lay blame for the horrific losses at high U.S. officials’ feet. But unlike today’s Congress, congressmen did not talk of impeaching Ronald Reagan, who was then President, nor were any subpoenas sent to cabinet members. This was true even though then, as now, the opposition party controlled the majority in the House. Tip O’Neill, the Democratic Speaker of the House, was no pushover. He, like today’s opposition leaders in the House, demanded an investigation—but a real one, and only one. Instead of playing it for political points, a House committee undertook a serious investigation into what went wrong at the barracks in Beirut. Two months later, it issued a report finding “very serious errors in judgment” by officers on the ground, as well as responsibility up through the military chain of command, and called for better security measures against terrorism in U.S. government installations throughout the world.
In other words, Congress actually undertook a useful investigation and made helpful recommendations. The report’s findings, by the way, were bipartisan. (The Pentagon, too, launched an investigation, issuing a report that was widely accepted by both parties.)
In March of 1984, three months after Congress issued its report, militants struck American officials in Beirut again, this time kidnapping the C.I.A.’s station chief, Bill Buckley. Buckley was tortured and, eventually, murdered. Reagan, who was tormented by a tape of Buckley being tortured, blamed himself. Congress held no public hearings, and pointed fingers at the perpetrators, not at political rivals.
If you compare the costs of the Reagan Administration’s serial security lapses in Beirut to the costs of Benghazi, it’s clear what has really deteriorated in the intervening three decades. It’s not the security of American government personnel working abroad. It’s the behavior of American congressmen at home.
The story in Beirut wasn’t over. In September of 1984, for the third time in eighteen months, jihadists bombed a U.S. government outpost in Beirut yet again. President Reagan acknowledged that the new security precautions that had been advocated by Congress hadn’t yet been implemented at the U.S. embassy annex that had been hit. The problem, the President admitted, was that the repairs hadn’t quite been completed on time. As he put it, “Anyone who’s ever had their kitchen done over knows that it never gets done as soon as you wish it would.” Imagine how Congressman Issa and Fox News would react to a similar explanation from President Obama today.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/ronald-reagans-benghazi
Off topic.
Here’s another reason Obama and his side-kick Holder look foolish.
Filmmaker Claims Darren Wilson Did Something That Was Widely Overlooked By Media: ‘I Want to Bring the Truth to People’:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/03/30/filmmaker-claims-darren-wilson-did-something-that-was-widely-overlooked-by-media-i-want-to-bring-the-truth-to-people/