by Jack (inspired by Pie)
The Saudi Arabian government passed a law a few years back that imposes the death penalty on people caught smuggling Bibles, which puts Bible smugglers on par with drug smugglers in that country. Institutionalized hate and bigotry? You betcha.
The Saudi government issued an official statement signifying that capital punishment may now be used on those who smuggle Bibles into the desert nation, where the royal family upholds a strict Wahhabi brand of Sunni Islam.
The society’s report added that the death penalty, which usually comes in the form of beheadings, can also be used against people who simply distribute the Bible and all other “publications that have prejudice to any other religious belief other than Islam.” This means that anyone handing out any kind of religious literature that is not of Islamic faith can legally be executed.
“Textbooks handed out in Saudi Arabian schools teach children how to cut off a thief’s hands and feet under Sharia law – Photo Daily Mail. The books were published and handed out to 9th and 10th-graders despite Saudi Arabia’s promises to clean up textbooks in the kingdom.
Ali Al-Ahmed, director of the Institute for Gulf Affairs, told Fox News: ‘This is where terrorism starts, in the education system. ‘They show students how to cut (the) hand and the feet of a thief,’ he said. The textbooks were printed for the 2010-2011 academic year and translated from Arabic by the institute. In one, for ninth-graders, students are taught the annihilation of the Jewish people is imperative. In addition to calling for the murder of Jews, the texts reportedly call women “weak” and teach that gays are dangerous and should be put to death.” Click here for more on this story.
And over in Palestine….
“New video footage appears to show Palestinian children in summer camps run by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) being taught that “Jews are the wolf,” and that they will one day conquer Israeli cities by force.
The video, uploaded to Youtube in late July and screened in part on Channel 2 news on Tuesday night, was directed by journalist David Bedein, who has written extensively about United Nations activities for the Israel Resource News Agency in Jerusalem. Channel 2 said the UN had promised to look into the indications in the report that UNRWA-funded camps were inciting hostility to Israel among young Palestinians.
Entitled “Camp Jihad,” the report says it shows footage from UNRWA summer programs in the Balata refugee camp north of Nablus and in the Gaza Strip. The focus of the camps, according to campers and staff in the clip, is educating the young Palestinians about the “Nakba”, the Palestinian term for the consequences of the 1948 war in which Israel won its independence.” Click here for more info.
Let’s kill all the Jews, it’s a fun kiddy program sponsored by your friends in Hamas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0ORAM-usqhQ
Anyone who hasn’t seen Hamas TV is missing a treat. Of course the low production values are part of the fun. But for the Palestinian audiences, most entertaining of all seems to be the sight of watching Palestinian children being taught to murder every Jew. Often by an adult dressed up as a giant bumble bee. Because one of the most popular characters in the death-fest that is ‘Al-Aqsa TV’ is indeed ‘Nahul’, the giant cuddly bee. ” From the Spectator
ISLAMOPHOBIA!
Sorry, I had a Chris moment but then managed to pass that gas bubble. *Whew* It was a stinker.
I said it before and shall repeat, Islam is child abuse. Does this mean all Muslims are child abusers? No, at least not the Muslims who are trying to live in peace and initiate a reformation. However, any reformist Muslims here would be quickly executed or imprisoned and flogged to death in any Islamic nation.
This is merely supposition, but I suspect that a good portion of Muslims who have immigrated to the US did so to flee the abject cruelty, intolerance, brutality, and barbarism of Islam
I also suspect that a good portion of Muslims have come to this country to spread the abject cruelty, intolerance, brutality, and barbarism of Islam. All one need do is pay attention of what Islam has done in Europe.
I recall the hilarious but insufferable, bigoted lunacy Chris was spouting when I identified that there were “no-go” zones in Britain and France. After making a complete ass of himself Chris quickly changed his tune to argue about the enumeration “no-go” zones and gave up on saying they did not exist.
That I, Post Scripts, and others identify the horror that is mainstream Islam and its brutal war on human dignity makes us “Islamophobic” in the eyes of the left.
I have often advised that Post Scripts take a break from this contentious and quintessential left wing lunatic Chris and stop publishing his hate filled and snotty commentary, but I was wrong.
Sometimes it is best to just let the lunatics dig their own hole and get out of the way. Heck, hand him a shovel folks.
Muslim kids are so cute when they are taught to kill all the Jews.
“This is merely supposition, but I suspect that a good portion of Muslims who have immigrated to the US did so to flee the abject cruelty, intolerance, brutality, and barbarism of Islam” Pie G.
That was very well said Pie. I agree with you and I do feel bad for those Muslims who were forced out of their homeland because of their desire for basic civil rights, rights that we in the USA often take for granted.
Muslims in Chico seem extremely tolerant and totally at home with their neighbors. We have a local mosque and Muslim students at CSUC, and zero problems. I totally support them and give them kudos for escaping barbarism in Islamic countries.
MORE ISLAMOPHOBIA!!!
Ayaan Hirsi Ali speech and such.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEP_22dIUM8
More Ayaan Hirsi Ali who was banned from Brandice University.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Ayaan+Hirsi+Ali
I love what this courageous woman has to say. Thank you for bringing her name and her words to our attention Pie! -Jack
Of course condemning these unjust and oppressive laws is not Islamophobic, Pie. Don’t be ridiculous. Do you really think liberals support Saudi Arabia’s disgusting policies? Nice of you to start bashing me before I had even commented on this thread, though.
Condemning oppression done under the name of Islam is necessary and just. Statements like “Islam is child abuse,” however, cross the line into bigotry, even though you did try to qualify it by saying not all Muslims are child abusers. This attempt didn’t really make sense–what religion do you think these Muslims are practicing, if not Islam? So I appreciate the effort to show respect to peaceful Muslims, but I still think your rhetoric is over the top and counter-productive.
Now am I saying that you are just as bigoted and hateful as those in Muslim majority countries who murder gays and Christians? Of course not. There are degrees of bigotry.
Jack: “Muslims in Chico seem extremely tolerant and totally at home with their neighbors. We have a local mosque and Muslim students at CSUC, and zero problems. I totally support them and give them kudos for escaping barbarism in Islamic countries.”
Glad to see this, Jack.
Re #7 Chris:
I don’t give a dang about what you think of my supposed “rhetoric.”
This from the obnoxious rhetorical extreme left stooge who jumps up and cries “Islamophobia” at every opportunity and labels Jack, Tina, myself, and many others racists and bigots every time he perceives an opportunity. Oh puhleeese.
Don’t give a hoot what you think or say, Chris, including your typical sad and sick condescension to Jack. As for being counter-productive, have you ever done any serious self-examination? You might give it a go.
Pie: “I recall the hilarious but insufferable, bigoted lunacy Chris was spouting when I identified that there were “no-go” zones in Britain and France. After making a complete ass of himself Chris quickly changed his tune to argue about the enumeration “no-go” zones and gave up on saying they did not exist.”
I recall things differently.
This is how you defined no-go zones:
“The French government has identified 751 “No Go” zones which it labels “sensitive urban zones”. These zones are dangerous for whites and non-Muslims to enter.”
You later described them as zones “completely under the control of Muslims.”
http://www.norcalblogs.com/postscripts/2015/01/07/muslim-no-go-zones/
It was then proven to you that the French government did NOT identify the sensitive urban zones you linked to as “no go zones,” as you falsely claimed, but as areas in need of increased government attention and urban renewal–literally the opposite of what you claimed, which was that they were areas that the government and police had completely given up on due to fear of the Muslim population of these communities.
So yes, based on your definition, Muslim no-go zones do not exist.
This was acknowledged by none less than the originator of the rumor, Daniel Pipes.
“My experiences starting in 2007 belied this expectation. All the immigrant areas turned out to be well maintained, with safe streets, and no sense of intimidation. I walked around, usually with camera in hand, and felt at ease. I encountered no difficulties at all.
That said, there is a reason why the French government calls these regions sensibles (sensitive, delicate). They contain many social pathologies (unemployment, drugs, political extremism), they seethe with antagonism toward the majority society, and are prone to outbreaks of violence.
So, from an American point of view, these areas are a bit confusing: potentially dangerous, yes, but in normal times very ordinary looking and with no sense of foreboding. Thus, the term no-go zone does not accurately reflect the situation.”
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2006/11/the-751-no-go-zones-of-france
“Pipes now says he was mistaken. In 2013, after traveling to several listed Paris neighborhoods and mainly immigrant and Muslim areas of five other European cities, he wrote: “For a visiting American, these areas are very mild, even dull. We who know the Bronx and Detroit expect urban hell in Europe, too, but there things look fine … hardly beautiful, but buildings are intact, greenery abounds, and order prevails. … Having this first-hand experience, I regret having called these areas no-go zones,” he wrote.
In an e-mail to Bloomberg Businessweek today, Pipes says that a no-go zone “is a place where the government has lost control and cannot enforce the rule of law.” There are, he now says, “no European countries with no-go zones.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-14/debunking-the-muslim-nogo-zone-myth
There are of course dangerous, impoverished immigrant communities that some are warned to steer clear of and that do not recieve enough attention from the police. This is true in every nation. In Europe, many of these communities are Muslim.
But you still have provided no evidence that this problem is any greater in Muslim communities than any other, or that these communities are ruled by Sharia law and that their countries laws no longer apply there, or that it is fair to label these communities “no go zones” for whites or non-Muslims. You certainly haven’t proven that Daniel Pipes, who originated the term “no-go zones” and later recanted his words upon actually visiting the areas under question, was wrong to take back his words and that you are right.
Until you do provide such evidence, I stand by my statement that there are no such things as no-go zones.
Anyone know French? According to this article it provides a link to a French government website that list over 750 “no go zones.”
“In France, large swaths of Muslim neighborhoods are now considered “no-go” zones by French police. At last count, there are 751 Sensitive Urban Zones (Zones Urbaines Sensibles, ZUS), as they are euphemistically called. A complete list of the ZUS can be found on a French government website, complete with satellite maps and precise street demarcations. An estimated 5 million Muslims live in the ZUS, parts of France over which the French state has lost control.
Muslim immigrants are taking control of other parts of France too. In Paris and other French cities with high Muslim populations, such as Lyons, Marseilles and Toulouse, thousands of Muslims are closing off streets and sidewalks (and by extension, are closing down local businesses and trapping non-Muslim residents in their homes and offices) to accommodate overflowing crowds for Friday prayers. Some mosques have also begun broadcasting sermons and chants of “Allahu Akbar” via loudspeakers into the streets.
The weekly spectacles, which have been documented by dozens of videos posted on Youtube.com (here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here), and which have been denounced as an “occupation without tanks or soldiers,” have provoked anger and disbelief. But despite many public complaints, local authorities have declined to intervene because they are afraid of sparking riots.”
http://sig.ville.gouv.fr/Atlas/ZUS/
Complete article from 2011 worth reading.
European ‘No-Go’ Zones for Non-Muslims Proliferating
“Occupation Without Tanks or Soldiers”:
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2367/european-muslim-no-go-zones
Chris cherry picks my statements and completely misrepresents me. Smooth move liar.
My memory is quite clear on the matter. It was not I who brought up Daniel Pipes as if he was an authority (or should be discredited) you lying jerk.
Chris, you continue to be a complete and utter ass and I do not give a dang if you continue to lie about others and your own actions and bury your head in the sand.
What I did conclude regarding the no-go-zones is that they do exist, and are under Muslim control. I did not enumerate them as you imply. In fact, I made posted that I did not believe they number identified by Pipes and others was realistic.
My evidence of the actual existence of no-go-zones was based on several overseas journals and a report from a long time US security analyst with a long list of credentials that does not appear in the thread you link to.
After that you did modify your position and that you deny it now shows exactly how much of a dirt bag liar and base coward that you are. You can’t even admit that you changed your tune and started in chastising Tina about the number of no-go-zones.
Chris, I do not give a hang that you are a liar and a coward and that you do not, as you now claim, believe that no-go-zones do not exist. That does not change the fact that they do.
They are Islamic conclaves in Britain and France where Muslims have completely detached themselves from their host country and no stupid lie you spout will change that.
Drop dead.
Oops, the above was a bit sloppy in the grammar department. No matter.
My last comment on this matter: There are no problems with Islam and no-go-zones in Britain and Europe and pigs fly.
Re “There are of course dangerous, impoverished immigrant communities that some are warned to steer clear of and that do not recieve enough attention from the police. This is true in every nation. In Europe, many of these communities are Muslim.”
And there are Muslim communities where crimes are not reported to police and have effectively cut themselves off willingly and have installed Sharia. Go try and sell bibles in those communities, Chris and get back to me.
Also, go to “East Oakland” (geographically actually south Oakland) and report your experience just walking down the street. This is something I also wrote about.
Muslim no-go-zones are not as Fox News reported, but they do exist. Greater than in other communities that are not Muslim? I never made any such claim you liar.
Pie: “Don’t give a hoot what you think or say”
Your actions indicate that you care a LOT about what I think and say.
Back on topic of educating our youth and young adults to be supportive and sympathetic toward Islamic/Muslim teachings.
Question, did OPEC money help educate selected groups of American students? And did those funds help develop current US leaders dealings with middle east countries including Iran?
Bombshell Obama Vetting: 1979 Newspaper Article By Valerie Jarrett’s Father-In-Law:
“Will Arabs Back Ties to Blacks with Cash?”
“Why would Muslim oil billionaires finance and develop controlling relationships with black college students? Well, like anyone else, they would do it for self-interest. And what would their self-interest be? We all know the top two answers to that question: 1. a Palestinian state and 2. the advancement of Islam in America. The idea then was to advance blacks who would facilitate these two goals to positions of power in the Federal government, preferably, of course, the Presidency. And why would the Arabs target blacks in particular for this job? Well, for the same reason the early communists chose them as their vanguard for revolution (which literally means “change”) in America. Allow me to quote Trotsky, in 1939: “The American Negroes, for centuries the most oppressed section of American society and the most discriminated against, are potentially the most revolutionary element of the population. They are designated by their historical past to be, under adequate leadership, the very vanguard of the proletarian revolution.” Substitute the word “Islam” for the words “the proletarian revolution,” and you most clearly get the picture, as Islam is a revolutionary movement just like communism is. (Trivia: it is from this very quote that communist Van Jones takes his name. Van is short for vanguard. He was born “Anthony”). In addition, long before 1979, blacks had become the vanguard of the spread of Islam in America, especially in prisons.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2990890/posts
The second video is of his full reading and worth watching to obtain his “anger” toward his “white” heritage. The first half is his own introduction and reading, and the second half he answers audience questions.
BREAKING: Shocking 1995 Video Surfaces of Barack Obama Revealing Who He REALLY Is [VIDEO]:
http://conservativetribune.com/video-surfaces-obama-1995/
Peggy there’s really no way to know how many Muslims that have migrated to America came because they sought freedom and how many pretend to love America but are part of the revolutionary/religious movement to destroy America. One thing is clear, the minds of many students have been poisoned by the militant messages and now lend full support.
It breaks my heart that we let this happen. A free society is at a big disadvantage because of our tolerance and inclusive nature. This is the weakness they exploit.
Peggy: “Anyone know French? According to this article it provides a link to a French government website that list over 750 “no go zones.”
Run it through Google Translate. You’ll see that the French government website said nothing about “no go zones.” This was a list of 750 areas that were being targeted for urban renewal projects. Yes, they are all poor minority communities, and many of them are violent and Muslim majority. But they are areas France designated for increased government and police attention-not, as many claimed, where the French government had completely lost control over to Sharia law.
Again, the term “no go zones” was coined by Daniel Pipes, who later walked back his claims after visiting the areas in question.
Pie: “After that you did modify your position and that you deny it now shows exactly how much of a dirt bag liar and base coward that you are. You can’t even admit that you changed your tune and started in chastising Tina about the number of no-go-zones.”
I don’t remember ever “changing my tune” on this, but I could be wrong. I linked to a whole thread where we discussed this issue (well, I discussed it–you yelled and cussed me out and wished for my premature death over it), and couldn’t find anywhere where I changed my mind and conceded there actually were no go zones. But it came up in other threads as well.
You could easily do the same. You know, if you are going to accuse me of being a liar, back up your claims. It’s not hard to find old threads from this site on Google. I did it in a few minutes. If you’re going to be so hostile toward others over a disagreement, then do the work.
I know, you don’t care enough to do a Google search, you only care enough to tell me to drop dead and call me every name in the book. Hot tip: your writing isn’t really conveying “detached nonchalance” so much as “foaming at the mouth with rage.”
Peggy we could show evidence of Obama using his cadre of followers to round people up and throw them in prison just for disagreeing with him and it wouldn’t matter to those who choose to vote Democrat. We can and have shown instances of total disregard for our laws, manipulation of the law, lying (even to judges) and all sorts of activity showing bad character and contempt for our Constitution and it would matter.
As Chris has said, he will vote Hillary because she’s better on the grievance issues he cares about…to hell with anything else going on in the country…and to hell with the absolutely horrible record the current occupant has had on the economy (Wall Street doing fine…big company contributors doing fine…middle class out in the cold and falling).
The Great Depression came about because of similar thinking and policy…10 long years did our parents endure the notion that “prosperity was just around the corner.”
We’ve endured eight years of Democrat policy if you include the Democrats taking the House in Bush’s last two years…are we really interested in enduring miserable sluggish conditions for any more years?
Those wonderful Muslim immigrants —
Police: Muslims threw Christians overboard during Med voyage
http://news.yahoo.com/aid-agency-says-41-migrants-feared-dead-sea-142032667.html
Chris, ….you should give up the amateur psychobabble. It is true, I do not give a hoot what you say or think, but I do enjoy rattling your cage.
Tina: “Peggy we could show evidence of Obama using his cadre of followers to round people up and throw them in prison just for disagreeing with him”
…If such evidence existed, but it doesn’t.
“We can and have shown instances of total disregard for our laws, manipulation of the law, lying (even to judges) and all sorts of activity showing bad character and contempt for our Constitution and it would matter.”
Except that I have condemned Obama for showing contempt for the Constituion on many issues: indefinite detention, targeted assassinations of American citizens, Snowden, Manning…your attempts to paint me as some kind of Obama fanboy unwilling to admit any wrongdoing just don’t stand up to scrutiny. I defend Obama a lot because most of what you post here about him simply isn’t true. I defend conservatives from attacks I see as untrue or unfair as well.
“As Chris has said, he will vote Hillary”
Huh? I never said that. I said if it comes down to her or Ted Cruz, I will vote for Cruz.
“because she’s better on the grievance issues”
I definitely never said that. But I’m glad your surgery hasn’t deterred your dream of becoming an Olympic level athlete in the events of strawman-building and goalpost-moving.
“(Wall Street doing fine…big company contributors doing fine…middle class out in the cold and falling).”
It is simply amazing that you think the recession began under Obama.
“Huh? I never said that. I said if it comes down to her or Ted Cruz, I will vote for Cruz.”
Ack! HUGE typo. Should read, “I said if it comes down to her or Ted Cruz, I will vote for Hilary Clinton.”
But that’s not the same as saying “I will vote for Hilary Clinton.” I’m almost certainly not voting for her in the primaries, unless everyone else is as terrible as…well, the 2012 Republican primary.