by Jack
Once again we’re asked to endure an overly long, extremely costly, repetitious, tedious and often boring presidential election cycle. This has become a two year long marathon of character assassinations, false promises and dirty tricks, not to mention skyrocketing election costs. The media coverage has grown with intensity too. Major global events that we should be paying close attention too often gets lost in all the election chaos.
I have no doubt that our founding fathers would be sickened by the state of presidential elections today.
At the forefront of the campaigns are the new high-tech breed of unscrupulous campaign managers. They manipulate voters through scientific means using all kinds of consultants who pick campaign colors, populace buzz words, and use distortions just short of being a catchable lie. Meanwhile their candidate tries to remain aloof from the fray, protected by plausible deniability. But, behind the scenes their foot soldiers go about the job of destroying the competition by any means necessary. I call this party cannibalism, because they will eat their own in the primary season.
By the time a winner emerges for the general election we’ve got a candidate that’s so beat up, so maligned, the voter tends to see them as nothing more than the “lesser of two evils,” hardly a motivator for a high voter turnout and it’s incredibly divisive for the nation! We don’t just dislike the opposition candidate anymore – we hate them.
Political analyst Rob Boston wrote, “It’s very likely that Washington, Jefferson, Adams, and Madison — all of whom had complicated personal lives, held publically-known doubts about organized religion, and argued for strict separation of church and state — could not be elected in a modern election, with our over-emphasis on candidates’ personal and political lives.” Knowing all the mudslinging, it’s just as likely that a Jefferson, Adams or Madison would even want to run for election today!
We’ve had plenty of polling that says two years is way too long to elect a president. In England the PM can call for a new government in a month’s time. Their “long” election, it’s limited to 139 days and unlike here, their campaign expenditures are capped by law. England thinks that big money spent in an election and all the
fund raising and deals that go with it is a corrupting influence.
Bottom line: In January of 2015 comedian John Oliver (see photo on right) quipped, “I have no interest whatsoever in the 2016 election, there’s a time and a place for that, and it’s in 2016.”
As the saying goes, “May you live in interesting times.”
Some have posited the notion that there will be not a 2016 election. Further, that current events are being orchestrated to foment a race war, leading to a declaration of martial law. We’ll see. I sincerely hope and pray that the American People are stronger than that.
I make no claim as to any ability to connect the dots I trip over, but this one caught my eye—
8000 orders in 24 hours—
http://www.rebelstore.com/
The Democratic Party was founded by the most powerful slavers in the English speaking world. The first Democratic Party President was Andrew Jackson. A genocidal maniac who treated the U.S. Supreme Court with as much disdain as the Communist “Community Leader” Obama.
Funny how things change but remain the same.
Re : “We don’t just dislike the opposition candidate anymore – we hate them.”
I don’t hate Democrats, I don’t hate Obama. I don’t hate Hillary, I don’t hate Socialist-Communist liars Lincoln Chafee, Martin O’Malley, Bernie Sanders and their plantation house n****rs.
I merely despise them.
When the POTUS uses the term n****r in a speech he not only degrades and shames the office, he degrades the American people.
AZ has a really great law. Requires that any elected official who decides to run for a different office must first resign the one they have before announcing candidacy.
Sure stops a lot of those who are campaigning without any hope of being chosen . . . . . .
I don’t hate Democrats; I hate what they believe in and how they go about transforming America to reflect their commie views. It starts with a bit of fascism and goes downhill from there. Obama has sped up the process considerably with the help of Pelosi/Reid, the EPA, the IRS, and a Supreme Court that promotes and saves rather than upholding the Constitution.
More than the money in politics I fear that we have already lost the republic and all ability to reverse the destructive bloat and power of the federal government that’s been build over the last 70+ years.
Re: Tina #5, and from another post–
“The people who elected this man twice are easily fooled and don’t have a clue about what lies beyond the promises of “free” goodies.”
———————–
Indeed.
Thanks in part to the efforts of Dr. Spock and our technology, we now have generations who have had access to vast knowledge and power long before they had time to gain wisdom and maturity, have found that actions can be taken without consequence, and that everyone gets a trophy.
We are sliding down an ever increasing slope from this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt7qvuHSg6U
to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies
And another thing, while I’m on a roll…
I see Apple has—
“”We have removed apps from the App Store that use the Confederate flag in offensive or mean-spirited ways, which is in violation of our guidelines,” the company said in a statement. “We are not removing apps that display the Confederate flag for educational or historical uses.””
Right. First of all, it’s not the Confederate flag. It’s the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. Google it.
Second, if they are “…in violation of our guidelines”, how the bleep did they get there in the first place?
Lastly, in this same spirit, I assume apple no longer accepts any U.S. currency bearing a portrait of a former slave owner.
RHT, the nutty people who want to ban the Confederate flag have some kind delusion that it will make smite down racism. However, many Southern states incorporate the stars and bars because to them it represents a stand for States rights, not racism and not slavery.
However, this flag represents a chapter in American history where more than one kind of patriotic ideology opposed another. For better or worse we shouldn’t try to sanitize our history. Banning things has a way of backfiring, so I wouldn’t go there.
The civil war did not start because of slavery, that was an afterthought used to garner support for the Union and furthermore slavery existed in the North after the war began, so should we ban the US flag of 1861?
I heard some news pundit say people in the South were evil, they were traitors and we should ban anything memorialized them in any way. How ridiculous, yet here it is being said on FOX. This whole business of banning Confederate flags is an overreaction and it’s a slippery slope. I’m against banning the flag from sale and from States flags with stars band bars being removed from Washington DC.
Side Issue : The new Uncle Toms. Liberals (= racists) are having a hissy fit over non-white Republican POTUS candidates.
http://freebeacon.com/blog/non-white-politicians-are-running-for-president-and-liberals-cant-stand-it/
Off Topic : Why I Love Surfing The Web
I started with reading about Wild Bill Hickok who was murdered August 2, 1876 (aged 39) in Deadwood, Dakota Territory, by irate gambler Jack McCall. Deadwood, as many know, was an infamous illegal gold camp in the Black Hills on land ceded to the Lakota Sioux in the 1868 Treaty of Laramie. It was founded after an expedition into the Black Hills led by Colonel George Armstrong Custer discovered gold in French Creek, which ultimately led to the Black Hills gold rush.
I then looked up Deadwood on Google maps and after switching to satellite view noticed an enormous pit mine to the south-west of Deadwood. After a bit more research I discovered that this was the Homestake mine, which sounded veryfamiliar.
This led me to the Homestake experiment that first detected solar neutrinos which I am quite familiar with —
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestake_experiment
And the Large Underground Xenon experiment that seeks to discover dark matter interactions with normal matter which I was not familiar with —
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Underground_Xenon_experiment
We are all asleep on this Liberal logic lunacy.
From another post I was sent:
“Major retailers like Amazon, Ebay, and Walmart immediately jumped on board and have now removed confederate flags from their listings. Paul Joseph Watson highlights the sheer ridiculousness of the move, noting that while Amazon has removed memorabilia featuring the flag of the Confederacy, they continue to allow the sale of items featuring Nazi emblems and Swastikas.
But the idiocy, based on absolutely no logical reasoning except that this is the perfect crisis to not let go to waste, doesn’t stop there.”
So I will be willing to discuss the reasons for removing a flag from SC capital, after those same people calling for its lowering can explain to me why their entitled to Walk on, Step on burn, and other defecations on the America Flag without the same uproar.
Pure Liberal BA ………..
OK Pie, you started it—
“I started with reading about Wild Bill Hickok who was murdered August 2, 1876 (aged 39) in Deadwood, Dakota Territory, by irate gambler Jack McCall.”
Perhaps this tie-in is a bit thin, but I thought you might enjoy it.
I’m sure you’re familiar with the term “dead man’s hand” which refers to the cards in Wild Bill’s poker hand, 8’s and aces. In numerical value, 8’s are 8’s and aces are 1.
B-17G 42-31188 was assigned to my dad’s bomb group in England. The crew named it “Dead Man’s Hand”. The bomber was shot down on April 19th, 1945. Records indicate that this was the last combat loss for the 8th Air Force in WWII.
http://www.447bg.com/42-31188.htm
My dad flew his 35th and last mission (pilot) on April 16.
Re #12 RHT447 : Wow.
I had two uncles that flew in the European theater. They never discussed it until very late in life. One trained here at the Chico Army Airfield.
A close friend of mine’s father was shot down over Germany on a bombing mission and made it back to Great Britain to fly again. His grandfather served in the Navy as a dentist. Tofflemire tools can still be found in dental offices to this day and the street his house is still on is named Tofflemire Drive.
Chico Army Airfield links —
http://archives.csuchico.edu/cdm/landingpage/collection/coll17
http://californiamilitaryhistory.org/ChicoAAF.html
https://www.google.com/search?q=Chico+Army+Airfield&num=40&newwindow=1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ndeNVdSLE8epogTSupyQCw&ved=0CDUQsAQ&biw=1536&bih=830
Another Dead Man’s Hand, but this version is a full house of aces over eights instead of the two pair Wild Bill held : The NAVY VB-88 Aviation Bombing Squadron EIGHTY EIGHT Military Patch WWII CARDS ACES & EIGHTS
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0217/0182/products/dead_mans_don_1024x1024.jpg?v=1388797454
Aces n’ Eights” nose art B-17 42-37888 at Alconbury 527th Bomb Squadron 379th Bomb Group
http://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/usa/aircrafts-2-3/b-17/aces-n-eights-nose-art-b-17-42-37888-at-alconbury-527th-bs-379th-bg/
I sympathize with southerners on this, but, the confederate flag has no more place on our government institutions than the Mexican flag does. The American flag must always come first.
Sadly, we have seen too many stories of our American flag not being allowed at schools whenever it is decided it might offend people. That is the wrong answer, as anyone who is offended by the American flag are the ones who have their priorities messed up.
As to the political battles that are coming, Jack, I know it can get ugly but we have to remember it is a competition without rules. No one runs who doesn’t have a desire to win, and when you can win by bending the truth or smearing your opponents, that is what they will do. The real shame is not in the candidates who take advantage of reality, but in the voters who allow themselves to be deceived.
Steve, was it the actual confederate battle flag they were removing?
If it was the battle flag, I would agree, this is not a valid flag to fly over a government building. If it’s an official state flag like Alabama, Florida, Arkansas, Georgia or Mississippi that incorporate some portion or loose representation of the confederate flag I would not want to see them removed.
With all of this political finger point’n and liberal hoopla about the Confederate flag these past days, I’m a think’n it’s time for those of us who actually understand our history in the south to shout out.
If you’re like me and ALL the folks I know and knew you don’t hate anyone, you’re not racist, and you don’t support or condone the evils of slavery in 19th century America (north or south). You’re just simple and patriotic country folk who take pride in our southern heritage, which has more to do with love of country and freedoms than anything else.
So to all of you liberal lunatics, hear me loud and clear, “If the Confederate Flag offends you, you need a history lesson.” y’all hear me straight on that
This aint no time to fix blame on our Flag of Dixie, it aint done squat to anyone, were a hurt’n over how someone could be so down right mean and evil to jes disgrace his house and jes slauther good folk.
Dang it, if’n yer hell bent and fix’n to let yer little minds blame a piece of cloth that represent a lot more good then bad, then best you git right to church and seek his forgiveness, cause y’all need it bad.
An interesting perspective—
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYzAqHD1gHc
http://southernheritage411.com/index.shtml
RHT, those were great links. This is a part of history that rarely gets any attention. Sure glad you found this, because I am disgusted with the way the far left has been re-writing American history to fit their false narrative, like this load of horse pukey by President Obama…
“I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story,” Obama said in a June 2009 speech in Cairo, Egypt. “Islam has always been part of America,” he said in a 2010 statement marking the start of Ramadan. And in a 2014 statement marking Eid, Obama said the holiday “also reminds us of the many achievements and contributions of Muslim Americans to building the very fabric of our nation and strengthening the core of our democracy.”
The south started Civil War by taking Fort Sumter in Charleston Bay on April 12, 1861. The south lost the Civil War a war that claimed an estimated 620,000 lives, possibly 850,000 lives.
**** The South, **** the slavers, **** their symbols, **** the battle flag of Army of Northern Virginia, **** anyone who seeks to make it a symbol greatness.
The only place the battle flag of Army of Northern Virginia belongs is in a museum.
The said, I do not give a damn if any stupid, ignorant, redneck jackass displays it. Hell, I may display it out of pure spite.
The above should have read “That said …” Some how it slipped past me on this godawful Windows 8.1 machine
It’s a state flag, therefore it’s the state’s decision to fly it or not. Those of us not living in the state should just keep quiet.
Next will be Pita coming after the Calif. flag because of the bear.
This isn’t just about a flag it’s about erasing our history. They’re even trying to get anything related to the Confederate states removed from Gettysburg stores.
Gettysburg National Park Pulls Confederate Flag Items:
http://www.newsmax.com/US/gettysburg-national-park/2015/06/26/id/652452/
Statement Regarding the Confederate Flag:
http://www.nps.gov/gett/learn/news/statement-regarding-the-confederate-flag.htm
The battle flag is a sign of treason. It has no business flying on any taxpayer owned property.
The US Flag should be welcomed on any public property. That is the proper flag for the country at least til 2016. After that who knows if they will completely sell us off. Especially if corporate Dems and the GOP push through these trade deals.
You do realize the WA Tea Party had to take down the Chinese flag at the Capital right?
@Steve
” The real shame is not in the candidates who take advantage of reality, but in the voters who allow themselves to be deceived. ”
Nothing could be more true, – I am never deceived I do the due diligence and ignore the media.
Dewey you are to be commended for your due diligence, but not for your use of common sense. You have been easily led into way too many dead ends. Whats worse, you can’t see it once you have arrived. Let’s take your 9/11 theory that it was an inside job…nah, wait that one is too easy. Let’s take your statement about tax cuts will send jobs overseas. Do you hear yourself? That’s freaking nuts! How did you arrive at such an illogical position? High taxation was one of the key reasons American businesses were forced out of our country, that and labor unions that demanded wages and benefits beyond the companies abilities to pay. You’ve been proven wrong on so many issues I’ve lost count, yet you still cling to the notion that you have some better perspective and understanding than your peers?
The question we face today is whether we take our country back or we allow the fascism to rule us. Corporations run the gov now.
The so called “Free Goodies” You mean like corporate welfare? tax cuts to send jobs overseas? nestle getting cheap rates to bottle up the Sacramento public water supply to sell back to you in bottles?
The Tea Party is for corporate rule. Privatize all public assets for a wall street middle man to profit.
Dewey check out the corp tax rate:
Corporate Income Tax Rates
Taxable income over….. Not over….. Tax rate
$ 0….. $ 50,000….. 15%
50,000 ….. 75,000…. 25%
75,000….. 100,000….. 34%
100,000….. 335,000….. 39%
335,000….. 10,000,000….. 34%
10,000,000….. 15,000,000….. 35%
15,000,000….. 18,333,333….. 38%
18,333,333….. ………. 35%
The rates in the table may look a little strange, increasing, decreasing, increasing, but that’s the way Congress designed them. However, you have to see that’s a lot of overhead that goes straight to the government.
Jack they do not pay that with the loopholes. In fact 1 in 4 corporations pay no income tax. If they actually paid those taxes the conversation would be different.
Everything is a spin these days Jack. We need to force all candidates to talk real turkey and real numbers. Hopefully Bernie running will help to do that.
Senator Sanders is right, the Tax Foundation is wrong.
Effective Tax Rates vs. Nominal or Statutory Tax Rates
The U.S. statutory tax rate of 35 percent is almost entirely irrelevant. The effective corporate tax rate (what corporations actually pay as a percentage of their profits) is what matters, and it’s far lower than the statutory corporate tax rate because of the loopholes that allow corporations to avoid taxes. The U.S. effective corporate tax rate is also far lower than the Tax Foundation claimed in a written response to Senator Sanders.
While the statutory corporate income tax rate for the U.S. may be high compared to those of other countries, the total federal corporate income tax collected in the U.S. in 2010 was equal to just 1.3 percent of our gross domestic product — in other words, 1.3 percent of our total economic output — according to the Treasury Department. The figure is 1.6 percent of GDP when state corporate income taxes are included.
Ultimately, the only way to understand how much corporations are actually paying in taxes is to do the painstaking work that CTJ does in going through the financial reports filed by corporations, and uncovering the hidden tax breaks that go unnoticed in the large, error-prone databases that these other studies tend to rely on.
For example, a simple reading of Facebook’s 2012 10-K annual financial report might suggest that the company pays a very large amount of federal income tax: the income tax note for the 2012 report says the company paid a current federal income tax of $559 million on its $1.062 billion in pretax US income. This implies an effective federal tax rate of 52.6%, which is a lot.
But in fact, the company reduced its federal income taxes by more than $1 billion in 2012 through the “excess stock option” tax break, the effects of which are not reported in the income tax note. Researchers using databases that simply report the contents of the income tax note will miss this essential piece of information.
The truth is that, by any measure, U.S. corporate income taxes are very low. And as a share of the economy, they are much lower than are corporate income taxes in almost every other developed country.
http://ctj.org/ctjreports/2013/04/bernie_sanders_is_right_and_the_tax_foundation_is_wrong_the_us_has_very_low_corporate_income_taxes.php#.VZB48UY7IlQ
Jack, I do not follow all the theories, lol, just use specific data from these sites that is verifiable,
It is my opinion it was an inside job, Who? not sure. Cheney and Bush are war criminals. Obama protected them but Court said the families can sue them. Hope they do. We tortured people which is illegal. Obama may go down for drones who knows.
Jack the American businesses were not forced out by high taxation. Sorry that is all bull. Wall Street has to have increases over the month in the previous year. Obtaining a 30 – 40% increase over that month the year before has an end to it.
Enter in slave labor, free energy from the Chinese gov and you have new increases.
Also CEO’s are making millions a year while slave labor does the work.
Jack my friend sorry the facts are on my side. This is all about taking us back to the gilded ages not high taxes.
We have heard the supply side trickle down junk since Reagan. Presidents have never reversed most of Reaganomics and we are living in the results.
Trickle Down Conservative policies and austerity has failed. There will always be a deficit because there will always be a profit war.
Slavery was absolutely the primary issue for secession and the Civil War, and the Confederates said so themselves.
Jack, would you be interested in an article about the causes of the Civil War and the ideology that motivated the Confederacy? I’ve been itching to write one and I think it would be an interesting enough discussion for a whole thread.
Chris, that is an excellent idea. Everyone loves history.
Did you hear Newt slam the liberal media on Meet the Press today? If not it’s worth seeing. Score one for Newt.
Newt Gingrich: ‘Liberal Media’ Impacts What Issues GOP Can Run On:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeffrey-meyer/2015/06/28/newt-gingrich-liberal-media-impacts-what-issues-gop-can-run#sthash.VewhcrPG.dpuf
RHT447, I thank you fer yer post about Southern heritage, right kindly of ya. Y’all welcome to supper with us anytime.
Pie, There are rednecks up North too, most likely that’s where the dumbass one hunker. Folks is everywhere what think they’re better than others, and of late there’s an incredible amount of prejudice especially towards the South and our Dixie ways.
If’n I took yer redneck comment wrong ,please forgive me ,but I would be a mis if not to caution ya that socially refined folk never fish coins out of public toilets, especially if other people are around.
Off discussion topic, but related to the article title.
Exclusive: The Arming of Benghazi:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy-policy/2015/06/27/exclusive-arming-benghazi/
I can’t help but wonder if this is another reason Mike Rodgers abruptly resigned as Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and didn’t run for reelection.
One things for sure Peggy, we haven’t heard the last on Benghazi. There’s more truth still out there and it’s arriving it bits, thanks to a lot of cover ups…but its still arriving and that’s good!
(Apologies for my proposed article being so long. Feel free to cut it down by erasing some of the declarations of secession; they all say pretty much the same thing!)
Re: #30 Southern Comfort.
My pleasure. And you’re on. I’ll bring the beer.
My roots run deep and wide. My mother’s side of the family goes back to several generations in Maine under the family name Baker. Solid English blue-blood yankee stock.
Around 1847, they made their way to Austin, Texas, by way of New Orleans, which lead to several generations of native born Texicans.
A. R. Roessler,
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/fro56
who drew this map—
http://www.uta.edu/utamagazine/archive-issues/2010-13/2010/08/the-lone-star-shape/
was my maternal grandmother’s grandfather. His daughter married my great-grandfather, who’s parents immigrated to Detroit from Scotland (which may in part explain my fondness for pennies).
The current and exponentially increasing race-baiting, divide-and-conquer campaign by this administration and the media truly breaks my heart.
At Gettysburg, the CSA had 272 artillery pieces, the USA 360. Here is just one in action. If need be, move the slider all the way left. Watch the horizon for the puff of smoke, then watch the projectile take the top branches out of the tree.
At Gettysburg, the CSA had 272 artillery pieces, the USA 360. Here is just one in action. If need be, move the slider all the way left. Watch the horizon for the puff of smoke, then watch the projectile take the top branches out of the tree.
Right. Probably help if I included the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL1DkrYL70s#t=18
Grrr. One more edit. In my post #34, if you click on the map link, go to image number 7.
Re #30 Southern Comfort :
Me an’ the dumbass 620,000 to 850,000 ghostly dead because that stupid war will be happy to treat you and yours to some barbeque and burgoo. But only if I am allowed to copiously display dozens of battle flags up and down the street.
For me it comes down to this — all the hoopla about the Army of Northern Virginia battle flag is just so much damn noise. There is NOTHING in the Constitution that protects people from being offended and I am fed up with all this ridiculous PC crap. Including “triggers” and the latest “microaggression” nonsense being promoted by the overpaid lunatic academics of the left.
We pay millions for UC regents and UC presidents who, evidently. have too much time on their hands to produce this mindless crap?
Chris is a product of it. Think about it.
Pie: “There is NOTHING in the Constitution that protects people from being offended”
Well, of course not. But I don’t think most are saying the Confederate flag should be illegal, or that flying it is unconstitutional. They’re saying that it’s wrong, and shouldn’t be done.
Judge Andrew Napolitano of FOX News did make a good argument on the Daily Show that state buildings could be forbidden from flying the Confederate flag, since doing so represents an ideological position, and the government has no business doing that. It’s also literally a flag of treason, so I can see the argument that the feds would be in their power to have it taken down. But personally I’d rather states be pressured (non-violently and civilly) into taking down the flag voluntarily, rather than the feds making them do so. Don’t want to give the South more of a reason to have a victim complex–that’s half the reason the Confederate flag is so common down there in the first place…
Check out the Mother of one-percenter’s homes.
http://chicksontheright.com/blog/item/29645-want-to-see-what-hillionaire-s-cribs-look-like-holy-mother-of-one-percent
At #39 Pie: One of the latest is “man-spreading”…the feminist word for those beastly sub-human men who sit with their legs apart on buses and benches.
The PC crowd is the most insensitive, none-inclusive, brutish bunch in the basket! The pretense that they are the ones who “care” and value freedom is laughable.
Tina: “One of the latest is “man-spreading”…the feminist word for those beastly sub-human men who sit with their legs apart on buses and benches.”
I have to ask: do you make your strawmen yourself, or do you buy them? I’m also curious about the style; they’re ever so elaborate, and yet they bear only the vaguest resemblance to the people they’re based on.
NYT:
Tina, of course I’m aware that manspreading has been criticized. I was objecting to your portrayal of those critics as calling those guilty of the practice “beastly subhuman men.” I don’t see any rhetoric that extreme even in the NYT quote you cited.
I’m also not sure why you object to criticisms of this practice. Isn’t taking up too much space on a subway, especially when you are interfering with other people’s ability to sit down, rude? Do you doubt that men engage in this practice more commonly than women?