Posted by Jack
This is a compilation from an article written to expand on another article titled, What If They All Left by Tina Griego, Denver Post. Ms. Griego is now being credited for writing the whole thing, but that part is not true. Griego did not find these stats and I wanted to make that clear. The links are provided for your inspection, but many of them of no longer valid, the article goes back to 2007. However, this is an interesting subject and the costs alleged below can still be researched and updated on your own, if you wish.
What if Illegal Aliens Vacated America?
Interesting Statistics…
Here are 13 reasons illegal aliens should vacate America, and I hope they are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them:
- $14 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare to illegal aliens. (thats Billion with a ‘B’) http://tinyurl.com/zob77.html
- $7.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html - Update: Among the largest costs are Medicaid ($2.5 billion); treatment for the uninsured ($2.2 billion); food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches ($1.9 billion); the federal prison and court systems ($1.6 billion); and federal aid to schools ($1.4 billion).
- $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they still cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
- $27 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
- $3 Million Dollars ’PER DAY’ is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. That’s $1.2 Billion a year.http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
- 28% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
- $190 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
- $200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
- The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
- During the year 2005, there were 8 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from other terrorist countries. Over 10,000 of those were middle-eastern terrorists. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin, crack, Guns, and marijuana crossed into the U.S. from the southern border. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
- The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/publications.php?b=deportation
- In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $65 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin, to their families and friends. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
- The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United States! http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
Total cost a whopping $538.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!
You’ve been punked by an Internet hoax again, Jack. Tina Greigo did not write this.
“Firstly, none of the specific statistics mentioned have any sources to back them up; secondly, there are no dates to indicate when the data was derived; thirdly, it presumes none of the country’s problems with social program abuse and criminal activity are self-inflicted; and last but not least, it wasn’t even written by the woman to whom it is attributed.”
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1662060/that-if-20-million-illegal-immigrants-left-post-is-phony-stop-sharing-it/#SUSS3XXQLMhdmeSs.99
I have a question. Does this blog have any Latino or black readers? As far as I’m aware the conservative commenters here all veer older, white, and with the exception of Tina and Peggy, male. Have you ever wondered why this is? Have you thought about how to make Post Scripts have broader appeal outside this very narrow demographic? Obviously this blog doesn’t represent the Republican Party as a whole, but I’ve always seen it as a good barometer of what’s going on in the conservative movement, and I don’t see many people of color.
Great post, Jack! Very thought provoking for those without closed minds or with an agenda . . . . . .
It might take more than a clarification of the law or enforcing current laws in Arizonato alter those statistics:
Video, taken by ranchers, are at the bottom of the article.
Arizona Sheriff Paul Babeu, Pinal County appeared on FOX yesterday to speak about three illegal criminals that were recently released into his county by ICE. They included “a Russian national who set a police informant on fire, an Iraqi who killed his two-year-old daughter and an illegal immigrant from Sudan who has committed multiple assaults in two states.”:
Babeu went on to say:
More detailed information about the criminal records of these individuals can be read by following the link. This insanity occurs all over America every day…and still the left turns a blind eye.
We are not being compassionate when we allow this invasion. We are not being compassionate when we allow drug cartels to invade our states. We are not being compassionate when we release illegal alien criminals onto our streets to kidnap, rape and murder our citizens.
This administration, supported by their voters, has endangered American citizens with their policies. This administration has failed to respect the laws of this land.
Liberals (progressives) interpret our laws however they want to for their own convenience or power. Republicans fail to consider and counter their pronouncements. What are we citizens to do?
Mark Levin is doing the work our leaders will not do. Like Trump and others in the republican field he is simply informing the people about the law (video).
The economy is issue #1…but this issue is definitely in the running and heating up. We must rid ourselves of leaders who refuse to put American citizens FIRST!
Thanks Jack!
And don’t let the door slam you in the buttocks on your way out.
Fed up with illegals and sanctuary **** pits.
Dr. Ben Carson tours Mexican drug cartel sites in Arizona —
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/19/exclusive-az-sheriff-takes-dr-ben-carson-on-helicopter-tour-of-cartel-sites/
Let’s see now, recent and past guesses on how many illegal aliens are in America:
“The actual number of illegals living in the U.S. is unknown, but the American government estimates it to be somewhere around 11 million.”
(This is just political propaganda from a less than honest Obama WH.)
“Florida Sen. Marco Rubio — a Republican candidate for president — alluded to there being “12 or 13 million” illegal immigrants in the U.S.”
Two years ago, a group of former Border Patrol agents wrote in an open letter that the number of illegals in the U.S. was more like 18-20 million.
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said last month that he believes the number of illegals in the U.S. is around 30 million, a figure he said came from “other people” and “various newspapers
And then there’s this figure :
Mexico’s former ambassador to the United States said Tuesday (this week) there are 30 million “undocumented immigrants” currently living in the United States, far more than the U.S. government’s claim of around 11 million.
“If you were to deport the 30 million undocumented immigrants in the United States, that’s going to cost you about $130 billion,” Arturo Sarukhan told MSNBC.
Well if Jacks $$ numbers are right , I would call that$130 billion, money well spent!
Jack, I’m not sure why my first comment was deleted. I thought I posed some interesting questions. Does this blog have any regular Latino or black readers? Are any of the frequent commenters anything other than white? Have you given any thought to how to reach a wider audience? Is it possible that the frequent articles complaining about black and Latino culture–some linking to extremist hate groups for support–may be alienating potential commenters?
Chris, thanks for bringing this to my attention. My bad…I did a mass delete of spam and accidentally had you comment in there, it has been restored. Sorry.
Questions for Chris:
Are you capable of thinking about or discussing anything without bringing race and gender into the mix?
What is your interest in covertly wagging your finger at Post Scripts with questions about race and gender?
What would satisfy your litmus test…two Latinos, three blacks…a couple of LGBT people and several college students?
Does it occur to you that we don’t have this blog to satisfy your notions of what is “better”?
Is it necessary for Post Scripts to concern itself with who reads or participates here? ? Wouldn’t that mean we have to be careful, according to your rules, about what we say?
What are you really asking Chris?
We are aware of your opinions. You don’t need to be coy in your criticism.
It’s beginning to sound like maybe you would join the conservatives if they just weren’t so “mean.” And yet liberals are mean and that doesn’t stop your embracing liberal politics.
What do you want?
Tina: “Questions for Chris:
Are you capable of thinking about or discussing anything without bringing race and gender into the mix?”
Sure. But immigration is an issue that’s pretty tied up with race, so ignoring that aspect of the conversation would be silly. Also, I’m not always the one to bring up race–the article accusing “Latino culture” of having a child rape tolerance was posted by Pie. Jack also frequently writes articles relating to race. You brought up the black on black crime rate in a thread about abortion today. So I don’t think I’m the only one who brings up this issue.
“What is your interest in covertly wagging your finger at Post Scripts with questions about race and gender?”
I’m sorry, I didn’t intend to wag my finger in this thread–when I do, I’m typically not covert about it.
My questions were honest ones. I want to know why you guys think the comments section here is so predominately white, and why none of the regular commenters are anything but white.
You already know why I think that is–heck, one of the links in the above article, Rense, is written by a guy who is not only racist, but is also an anti-Semitic 9/11 truther. (OK, now I’m finger-wagging.)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Rense
If I’m a black reader and I see a link to that site I run, not walk, in the other direction. And I can’t help but wonder how many other potential commenters–left and right–you might lose when failing to check your sources so often leads you to cite sites like that one.
Anyway, that’s why I think you don’t have any minority commenters. Why do you think that is?
“What would satisfy your litmus test…two Latinos, three blacks…a couple of LGBT people and several college students?”
I didn’t propose a litmus test and I think “Why aren’t there ANY non-white people here?” is quite a few steps removed from asking for quotas.
“Does it occur to you that we don’t have this blog to satisfy your notions of what is “better”?”
Of course. That’s why I asked you the questions I asked you. I want to know if YOU are concerned that no non-white people comment on your blog.
“Is it necessary for Post Scripts to concern itself with who reads or participates here?”
I don’t know, is it? I would think any bloggers would want as diverse a readership as possible, but if you just don’t care about that, then say so.
“Wouldn’t that mean we have to be careful, according to your rules, about what we say?”
What do you think my rules are? Every writer should be careful about what they say–that’s a basic rule of writing. When did speaking and writing carefully become a vice?
If you want a more diverse readership, then yes, I think you need to be more careful about what you say. I’ve made that clear for a long time.
Again, I want to know why YOU think your readership is not racially diverse, and what you think you could do to change that, if anything.
“It’s beginning to sound like maybe you would join the conservatives if they just weren’t so “mean.””
Oh no. I disagree as a matter of principle with most conservative positions. And I wouldn’t judge conservative positions based on some conservatives acting badly.
“And yet liberals are mean and that doesn’t stop your embracing liberal politics.”
Again, that’s not what I base my political opinions on.
Chris: “immigration is an issue that’s pretty tied up with race, so ignoring that aspect of the conversation would be silly.”
Sure as long as you stick to the issue. Challenging us on who reads or posts on our blog is another thing entirely.
“So I don’t think I’m the only one who brings up this issue.”
Chris when we bring up race its in the context of a problem that needs solving that happens to involve. Your take on the problem is often to accuse us, in one form or another, of being racists. You don’t engage in the conversation or offer ideas or possible solutions, you assume ill intent on our part and attack based on that assumption.
” I want to know why you guys think the comments section here is so predominately white, and why none of the regular commenters are anything but white.”
First of all I don’t know the race of each of our posters and I certainly don’t know who is reading the blog. Second, why would it matter? Should the message change or be different for a Latino or black person? The problems we discuss are problems we all share. In my opinion anyone who wants to get what I’m saying will. If they are turned off it’s their choice and theirs to deal with as they will. I think choosing to engage leads to better understanding.
“If I’m a black reader and I see a link to that site I run, not walk, in the other direction.”
Do you not see the arrogance in this thought? You cannot speak for all black people and you sure as he77 have made sure, as a member in good standing of left politics, that preconceived notions about the right are well embedded in the minority community. Minorities on the right are more apt to engage and ask questions.
The thing that troubles me most about this is that you have participated on this blog for years. If you don’t know by now that we are not racists, that we do care about people, that we have no interest in evil intentions or acts, you will probably never know.
” I can’t help but wonder how many other potential commenters–left and right–you might lose when failing to check your sources so often leads you to cite sites like that one.”
Gee Chris they might not even notice if the hall monitor didn’t spend all his commenting time calling attention to it as if that were the subject of the post. Believe me if pushing white supremacist ideas was our goal our readers would know about it even without your assistance.
The problem you bring to our attention isn’t just a problem of the right. The problem you bring to our attention, division and strife, is purposely perpetrated by members in the leadership of your party, a radical element. It has been their intent to paint the right as racist since the sixties. I don’t think there’s much hope for us until the left learns to think and address our shared problems. As long as the right is racist narrative is indoctrinated into our young people they will hear and see everything through that filter and miss a lot.
“I didn’t propose a litmus test and I think “Why aren’t there ANY non-white people…”
Chris, again, you don’t know if that’s a true statement. And even if you are right does it matter? We discuss the things we discuss. But just for kicks how would you suggest we go about trying to attract minority participants? And do you think that Jack and I do this as a profession and have all kinds of time to spend on that? This is utterly ridiculous.
“I would think any bloggers would want as diverse a readership as possible, but if you just don’t care about that, then say so.”
As far as I’m concerned we invite all comers. We have been warm and welcoming to new posters, engaging, willing to post alternate opinions and opposing views. We never ask about gender, race, or orientation…we don’t even ask about political affiliation but rely on communications to discover whatever they wish to reveal about themselves. In simple terms, we don’t think in terms of race, gender or orientation…we think in terms of people!
Don’t you find your criticism a bit judgmental? We have no control over who does and does not stumble upon our blog and not everyone who does wants to stick around to play this game.
“What do you think my rules are? ”
We must avoid whatever is not on the acceptable list of words, we must know what will offend and avoid that, we must never hurt anyone’s feeling or push buttons, we must tread lightly when expressing our opinions to make others comfortable, we must all strive to think alike to avoid conflict, be nice, don’t hit…Chris this is free speech country not kindergarten, love it or leave it.
“Every writer should be careful about what they say”
What is the point of communication if we do not express ourselves? How diverse will we be if we all have to conform to your idea, or some minority groups idea, of what is acceptable?
“Again, that’s not what I base my political opinions on ”
Sure. That’s why you sped do much time and energy attempting to fix us so we conform to acceptable forms of speech and join you in sharing group ideology.
No thanks. I enjoy the colorful way that people express themselves. I probe and look deeper than surface minutia. I think of all people as my friends, even when they annoy me beyond belief. And I trust that when a racist happens to share a position of mine that that doesn’t make us comrades. Those who do leap to such conclusions aren’t thinking people in my opinion…they are simply reacting from programming and training.
Thanks for the response, Tina.
Chris, are you going to report this blog to the Soviet Poverty Law Center for hate speech? How about all the thought crimes that are going on here? I bet Mark Potock’s Hate Watch would get a woody hearing from you.
No, Bob. I highly doubt this blog would qualify as a hate site under the SPLC’s standards.
Also, there is no such thing as a “thought crime.” SPLC doesn’t criticize hate groups for thinking hateful things, since they are not, AFAIK, telepaths. They criticize hate groups for routinely saying and doing hateful things. I don’t recall them ever advocating criminalizing such speech.
You’re welcome, Chris.
Rense, is written by a guy who is not only racist, but is also an anti-Semitic 9/11 truther. ..
He must be a racist as he as Cynthia McKinney on his show as a guest, right Chris?
Bob, do you believe that having ONE African-American woman on one’s show–apparently, because said black woman is ALSO a 9/11 truther–is enough to prove that one is not racist?
Because that would be a preciously stupid thing to believe.