Too Late, US Will Send Special Forces to Syria and Iraq

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1. RHT447 says:

   Friday, October 30, 2015 at 11:20 am

   Mean while, Europe is on fire. Literally.

   “Sweden experienced five arson attacks against refugee centers in the space of two weeks in October. All the buildings were apparently set on fire on the eve of opening their doors to migrants and refugees, who have come to Sweden from countries in the Middle East and North Africa devastated by domestic conflicts and outside interventions.”

   Link:

   https://www.rt.com/news/320158-sweden-refugees-collapse-catastrophe/

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2. Pete says:

   Friday, October 30, 2015 at 11:31 am

   I say we stay completely out of that mess. Putin can have it.

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3. RHT447 says:

   Friday, October 30, 2015 at 11:47 am

   Off topic, but too good not to share.

   $15 an hour? Well Skippy, how about $0?

   http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/McDonalds-Machines.jpg

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4. Post Scripts says:

   Friday, October 30, 2015 at 12:53 pm

   It is incredibly foolish to send just 50 Special Forces personnel to Syria to ostensibly train “moderates” to fight ISIS. A thousand, fine, but not 50!? What is this idiot-in- chief thinking?

   There is no defined battle line in Syria and we know that American military forces are a kidnap prize that has so far eluded ISIS! Why expose them to this kind of threat. They (ISIS) would pay millions to get their hands on just one soldier.

   We can’t risk capture over there! And to send just 50 soldiers into a combat zone like this is sheer madness. We are the most highly valued target! Doesn’t Obama understand this? Is he unaware of the ‘friendly” fire and green on blue attacks over in Afghanistan and formerly inside Iraq?

   This is beyond stupid, it’s “reckless endangerment” and that’s a criminal offense in the civilian world, but apparently not for the president.

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5. Jack says:

   Friday, October 30, 2015 at 1:20 pm

   Pete, probably has the best solution. Stay out of it, there’s nothing in it for us. To be perfectly candid at this moment I would much rather see Putin in there than us.

   If those millions of war ravaged refugees were something other than radical Muslims and if they loved the USA and yearned for freedom, I might feel differently.

   ‘You have to remember, a few years ago they were cheering in the street over 9/11.

   They are for the most part, devout Muslims, who really do believe America is the Great Satan. For most of them, they wouldn’t care if we were all ground into dust! It’s hard to wrap my arms around somebody like that and let them into my home.

   So, when they get jammed up by their own religion, why should we care?

   Their religion is the problem! Their zealots and fanatics in Islam is the problem! These kooks want to solve everything with war or die trying. War on Sunni’s, war on Shia’s, war on Americans, war on Europeans, war on Israelis, war on women….war, war, war, they seem to thrive on it. Too many of them are brutal, ruthless, mean, bigoted people and they have been like that for 2000 years.

   Way to many of these Muslims embrace a martyrs death and they raise their children to feel the same way. Who want’s that for a neighbor? Who wants to sacrifice their son or daughter to save these fanatics done in by their own religion that they support so loyally and without questioning! I feel sorry for their children.

   The religious indoctrination in these rabid Wahhabi schools is an affront to anyone that believes in civil rights. Islamic fanaticism is a blight on humanity and threatens a return to 10th century values and morals.

   Sorry, but this is not our problem to solve, its theirs. Let them kill each other right down to the last zealot. The moderates will suffer at the hands of radicals, but that’s due to their religion, not mine. Their high minded Imams could reign it in, but they don’t. They must like all this killing in the name of Allah.

   There’s nothing in it for us…nothing. No appreciation, no gratitude, no hugs, just hate for anything America and a million or more crazy people ready and willing to do us harm any way they can.

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6. J. Soden says:

   Friday, October 30, 2015 at 2:56 pm

   Hey, white house! Got a news flash for ya! Whenever you are in an area where bullets, RPGs, IUDs or missiles may be flying at any moment from the unfriendlies, you are in COMBAT! Period!

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7. Soaps says:

   Friday, October 30, 2015 at 3:04 pm

   No appreciation, no gratitude, no hugs, just hate for anything America and a million or more crazy people ready and willing to do us harm. –

   Sounds like Obama and his people.

   Soaps

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   • Post Scripts says:

     Friday, October 30, 2015 at 5:36 pm

     Ha! Soaps…. lol

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8. Tina says:

   Friday, October 30, 2015 at 9:13 pm

   Leaving it to Putin is wise since our president has no intention to win the fight against this threat in the world and doesn’t give our military a fighting chance when he sends them off to do battle.

   But we won’t be able to isolate ourselves and stay out of it. I wish it were different. It is not.

   This is not an enemy we can crush on a battle field and be done with it. Following the horror of 911 we finally connected the dots and came up with a strategy that might, as President Bush informed us, take twenty years. Today we can see clearly the commitment and vision of this enemy, having abandoned a strategy to win, having taken a weak self deprecating posture the enemy has metastasized and spread its murderous hatred and destruction throughout the world.

   President George Bush repeatedly made clear that his strategy was to take the fight to the enemy, to fight it offensively on their soil so we wouldn’t have to fight it on ours:

   “We are committed to defending the nation. Yet wars are not won on the defensive. The best way to keep America safe from terrorism is to go after terrorists where they plan and hide.” –November 16, 2002.

   “In a statement released by the White House, Bush said the United States ‘works closely with every nation committed to this fight and we will continue to help our allies and friends improve their ability to fight terror.’ The strategy focuses on taking the fight against terrorists directly to them, isolating the terrorists from each other and potential allies, and disrupting plots before attacks occur.” –February 14, 2003. [4]

   “We are fighting these terrorists with our military in Afghanistan and Iraq and beyond so we do not have to face them in the streets of our own cities.” –October 25, 2004. [5]

   “We’re taking the fight to the terrorists abroad, so we don’t have to face them here at home.” –June 9, 2005. [6]

   “We either deal with terrorism and this extremism abroad, or we deal with it when it comes to us.” –June 28, 2005. [7]

   “At posts in Afghanistan, Iraq, and around the world, our men and women in uniform are taking the fight to the terrorists overseas,” Bush stated, and upholding a universal principle of the Declaration of Independence of July 4, 1776, “that all are created equal, and all are meant to be free.” –July 2, 2005. [8]

   “We are pursuing a comprehensive strategy to win the war on terror. We’re taking the fight to the terrorists abroad so we do not have to face them here at home.” –July 4, 2005. [9]

   Unfortunately over the eight years of the Bush presidency the war was undermined in the media. At the first sign of trouble the political left reversed their support and began to work against the effort. Their pathetic excuse? We support our troops but not the bad Bush war in Iraq. Muslim “moderates” joined them with pleas that failed to make the distinction between those practicing the religion and those waging war, insisting America was waging a war on Islam. Pressure was brought to bear to change our language. The PC monster won.

   I wasn’t a fly on the wall when George Bush handed the big chair in the oval office over to his successor so I don’t know what they discussed. I do know Bush must have convinced Obama that we faced a serious enemy because he continued in a war posture. But his strategy and posture shifted to a defensive strategy. after seven years we continue to see the growth and spread of radical Islam across the globe. Many of them are committed to fighting the war from within strategy:

   To understand the Brotherhood and how it operates, especially inside Western societies such as America’s, a brief overview of where it came from and why it was established is in order. Following the early years of blindingly fast military conquests, Islam began to falter as European Christendom doggedly kept pushing back, eventually surpassing an increasingly corrupt empire that had run out of lands to conquer, people to enslave, and riches to plunder. Yoked by consensus of the scholars (ijma) to an ideology that rejected critical thought, innovation, and scientific inquiry in favor of blind obedience to revelation, the Islamic world remained largely untouched by the Renaissance, Enlightenment, and eventual Industrial and Technological revolutions that catapulted the West to global power status.[5] Eventual European colonization of the Arab and Muslim world and the stunningly successful re-establishment of the Jewish nation in the modern State of Israel brought humiliation to people raised on tales of historical supremacism over these, its traditional dhimmi victims.

   Aside from Israel, which came later, this was the world into which Hassan al-Banna was born in the early 20th century. An Egyptian Cairene, al-Banna seethed with frustration at Islam’s diminished status in the world; in particular he resented the presence and power of the British colonial administration in Egypt. The abolishment of the last Caliphate by Kemal Ataturk in 1924 was perhaps the worst indignity, one that left al-Banna and his young Muslim university contemporaries apparently feeling unmoored. They joined together in 1928, determined (as we know from their statements and writing) to rectify things; “rectifying things,” for them, seems to have meant re-establishment of the Caliphate and global enforcement of Islamic Law (shariah). The organization they founded to return Egypt, the Middle East, and eventually the world to “proper” subservience to Islam as ordained by Allah would be the Muslim Brotherhood (Al-Ikhwan al-Muslimun in Arabic).
   Global Jihad

   Since its inception in 1928, the Muslim Brotherhood consistently has championed the cause of global jihad to “mobilize the entire Umma into one body to defend the right cause with all its strength…to jihad, to warfare…”[6] Until early 2011, its original bylaws could be found on the Brotherhood’s English language website, Ikhwanweb, established in 2005 by senior Brotherhood official Khairat al-Shater. Since then, they have been preserved by Steven Emerson at The Investigative Project on Terrorism (IPT)[7]. Article (2) makes clear that the Brotherhood conceives of itself as “an international Muslim Body, which seeks to establish Allah’s law in the land by achieving the spiritual goals of Islam and the true religion…establishing the Islamic State” and “…building a new basis of human civilization as is ensured by the overall teachings of Islam.”[8]

   In case that sounds relatively benign, Article (3) E gets more to the point: “The Islamic nation must be fully prepared to fight the tyrants and the enemies of Allah as a prelude to establishing an Islamic state.”[9] This is exactly what the Brotherhood did in Egypt in the violent years before and after the 1949 death of al-Banna, until it was forcibly suppressed, only to rise again in 2011-2012 when circumstances permitted. (emphasis mine)

   Massive numbers of refugees are fleeing the chaos following our defensive war. They include people committed to both philosophies of radical Islam: 1. Fight peacefully from within, infiltrate and assume power; 2. Create fear among the people through attacks of violence and unspeakable acts such as beheadings, crucifictions, immolation, mass murders, and the destruction of symbolic buildings, monuments, and houses of worship.

   We talk about staying out of it as if that were really possible. As the world was warned of Hitler and the Nazi’s we too are being warned and alerted. Newsmax:

   The threat from radical Islam has at least doubled in the past decade while Washington refuses to even admit the enemy exists, former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn said Sunday.

   The world is facing a “cancerous component of the Islamic religion” with a fanaticism that opposes the free world’s way of life, Flynn said on “Fox News Sunday.”

   “The wolf pack closest to the sled is ISIS, but there are other wolf packs around the world right now that are actually part of this larger expanding, violent extremist version of Islam,” Flynn said.

   Counter Jihad Report:

   Experts speaking at the Hudson Institute on Friday drew on Iran’s history in dealing with its neighbors and America to paint an accurate picture of how Iran will act in the aftermath of the Deal’s implementation.

   “Over the last 35 years, there has not been an event that has warranted this tilt towards Iran. There has not been one single event that warrants this pivot towards Iran,” Michael Pregent, Executive Director of Veterans Against the Deal said. “Hope is not a method.”

   Derek Harvey, Director of the Global Initiative on Civil Society and Conflict at the University of South Florida, said that the Deal only empowers the Iranian regime, in the form of funding and validation, to continue the same behavior they have assumed for the last thirty-five years. He said the Deal proves to the Iranians that their current tactic is effective, and emboldens them to pursue their ultimate goal of achieving regional hegemony. He added that there is no reason to believe that Iran has changed its agenda.

   General Keane:

   “The barbarism has been growing and expanding. No one can dispute the fact that radical Islam has morphed into a global jihad… and that expansion has been going on largely during the president’s administration. Not to accept that, one… is a major failing. And two, then to diminish it, that runs against the very harsh facts that are out there.”

   Keane referenced comments the president gave in an interview published by Vox on Monday where he compared his role in fighting terror to a “big city mayor” fighting crime.

   “[That’s] disturbing and it’s reckless, because it’s dangerous to the American people,” Keane said.

   “Certainly these tragedies that we see unfold in Africa, in the Middle East that ISIS is doing, they all share a common connected tissue, and that is an ideology. We need to press against it, and it’s obvious that this president is not going to do that.”

   KT McFarland:

   So which seems the wisest move, dealing with symptoms, or fighting the underlying disease? Radical, rabid, Islam is spreading across the world like a plague, and Obama seems to want to ignore the disease, and instead hand out some skin cream, a tylenol or two, and drop in a few pallets of tissues.

   General Keane:

   Keane said there is no comprehensive strategy to defeat radical Islam, and he said U.S. policies have failed.

   “Radical Islam has increased four-fold in five years,” Keane told Megyn Kelly.

   Keane discussed intercepted messages from al Qaeda in Iraq to al Qaeda in Pakistan in 2008. He told Kelly that they said, “This war is over, we have lost.” But a week after the last troops left Iraq in 2011, Keane said that the first bombs began to go off in Baghdad.

   “This administration has been paralyzed by the fear of adverse consequences in the Middle East driven by the realities of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan,” Keane told Kelly. (scroll down at link for video testimony to Congress)

   Homeland Security Today:

   With estimates that 20,000 foreign fighters—including 3,400 Westerns— from 90 countries around the globe have traveled to Syria to fight for terrorist organizations, US counterterrorism officials are becoming increasingly worried that they will return to American shores to conduct an attack on the homeland.

   “We need to accurately define the threat – violent Islamist extremism – and recognize it is spreading like wildfire around the globe,” said House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul (R-TX). “These fanatics want nothing less than destruction of our way of life, and now their ability to match words with deeds is growing at an astonishing rate. In recent years, their safe havens have proliferated and their ranks have swelled.”

   In the wake of the Islamic State’s (ISIS) barbaric display of the horrific murder of the Jordanian pilot, the House Committee on Homeland Security held a hearing last Wednesday to examine current efforts to thwart the dual threats of foreign fighters and homegrown terror.

   “This evolving Islamist terror landscape has given rise to the ―dual threats of foreign fighter returnees and homegrown terrorism,” McCaul said. “The recent terror attack in Paris, and other attacks and plots in Belgium, Germany, the UK, Australia, Canada, and here in the US are proof that the threat has surged and that the enemy is dead set on attacking the West.”

   Nicholas J. Rasmussen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said the rate of foreign fighter travel to Syria is “without precedent,” and is due in large part to ISIS’ demonstrated mastery of social media and online tools as mechanisms for spreading propaganda. In fact, since the first of this year, ISIS has already published more than 250 official ISIS products online.

   McCaul agreed, saying, “Extremists do not need to travel overseas in order to become a threat to our homeland. Through Hollywood-like propaganda videos and social media, Islamist terror groups are inciting their followers and potential recruits to wage war at home.”

   “ISIS social media also gives step-by-step instructions on how to get to the fight and how to return,” Mr. McCaul added.

   Rasmussen indicated that curbing the threat of foreign fighters returning to the homeland to conduct an attack will be very challenging, since there is no single pipeline for foreign fighters in and out of Syria. However, most routes involve transit through Turkey, prompting Turkey to step up its efforts to deny entry to potential foreign fighters based on information provided by the fighters’ countries of origin.

   We can hope (and pray) that Putin handles this problem for us. Imagining that he can address the entirety of the threat by himself is a stretch.

   I don’t now that the answer is the involvement of troops. I just wish we had someone in the WH that cares and has his head screwed on straight.

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9. Dewey says:

   Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 5:38 am

   Very Interesting that everybody is fighting an Undeclared War. A very important Constitutional Requirement. Several of US have been screaming at Congress including the President Himself to no avail. A couple democrats have yelled inside congress but the GOP has deaf ears.

   Wars usually keep a president (Party) in power at election time and we can not have a war til they are in the white house is the agenda. But you already know that right?

   The Constitution of the United States of America requires the Congress to debate and declare war. The President has very limited power. The Power to defend. Going on Offense requires Congressional Action. This President is arguably treading a very thin line legally.

   What you all want is for the President to act unconstitutionally. Since Congress will not do their job PBO tried to get new war powers. I disagree with the war powers and say CONGRESS NEEDS TO DO THEIR JOB! Can not fight an undeclared war folks.

   Here is an example in case you want to call me a liar.

   Washington DC Associated Press Release ———————————

   – The House on Thursday rejected an effort to force lawmakers to vote by the end of March on new war powers to fight Islamic State militants.

   The vote was 231-196 against adding an amendment to the House defense spending bill, a ballot that reflects the lack of political will in both the House and Senate on the bitterly disputed issue.

   The amendment, introduced by Rep. Adam Schiff of California, the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, would have required Congress to debate and vote on a new authorization for the use of military force by March 31. The amendment called for banning the use of funds in the fight against IS in Iraq and Syria unless Congress passed a new authorization.

   “Ten months into an undeclared war against ISIS, Congress yet again dodged its responsibility to authorize the use of force,” Schiff said after the vote. “While our pilots and special forces risk it all, Congress refuses to do its job. Congressional abdication of our responsibility to declare war, or to deny authorization for war, sets a terrible precedent and shifts war-making powers substantially and inexorably towards the executive” branch.

   In the fight against IS, President Barack Obama is relying on war authorizations given to President George W. Bush after 9/11. Obama sent a draft of a new authorization to Congress earlier this year, but lawmakers have taken few steps to get one passed.

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   Bottom Line where is the Tea Party on demanding Congressional debate? Sitting in a corner complaining we have not been fighting A war against ISIS……………………….. Tag, Your it!

   Get your leadership to do some actual work! Debate this war and declare it! Stop playing politics to win elections at taxpayers expense.

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10. Tina says:

    Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    What is it with you lefties? You all think you can order people around. Bunch of dang bullies is what you are. Control freaks!!!

    This is a discussion blog. We talk about items in the news, ideas, ideals and assorted opinions from many perspectives. We don’t have the power to GET the Congress to do anything. If we did the government would be much smaller.

    The President’s job isn’t to SCREAM at Congress…that would be a rude slap in the face to the people that are our representatives. The President is NOT a king. If the President needs a new war resolution from Congress it is up to HIM to convince Congress that the situation warrants it. It is OBAMA who needs to step up and be a leader!!! But the O man is a weenie (lawyer) and he’d rather do whatever he thinks he can get away including trying to extend his authority into the next presidency!

    President Barack Obama will soon give Congress his proposal for a new authorization for the use of military force against Islamic State fighters, and it will place strict limits on the types of U.S. ground forces that can be deployed, according to congressional sources.

    Almost six months after the president began using force against the Islamic State advance in Iraq and then in Syria, the White House is ready to ask Congress for formal permission to continue the effort. Until now, the administration has maintained it has enough authority to wage war through the 2001 AUMF on al-Qaeda, the 2002 AUMF regarding Iraq and Article II of the Constitution. But under pressure from Capitol Hill, the White House has now completed the text of a new authorization and could send it to lawmakers as early as Wednesday.

    If enacted, the president’s AUMF could effectively constrain the next president from waging a ground war against the Islamic State group until at least 2018.

    No wonder there isn’t any interest in taking up his proposal!

    Obama has no interest in persuading Congress because it might require leadership and bipartisan persuasion. He might have to show the opposition some respect. He might have to accept constraints placed on HIM!

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11. Dewey says:

    Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    QUOTE: “What is it with you lefties? You all think you can order people around. Bunch of dang bullies is what you are. Control freaks!!! -” IRRATIONAL! at best!

    This is for Tina!
    If demanding Constitutional Action is ordering people around please explain what the heck the Constitution means! Shall we ignore it so you can have war discussions? fake strategy to play left and right?

    American? patriot? Well I guess you just threw that all out the window? So just exactly what is the constitutional way to proceed against IS?

    Tag Your It!

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    • Tina says:

      Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 10:33 pm

      The Constitution acknowledges I am a free person. I am not required to follow your commands or your methods:

      Bottom Line where is the Tea Party on demanding Congressional debate? …Get your leadership to do some actual work! Debate this war and declare it! Stop playing politics to win elections at taxpayers expense.

      A. You have no idea what individual Tea party people do on a daily basis or what their intentions are.

      B. It is not your place to decide what any individual or group should do.

      C. YOU are not the boss of congress.

      D. Get your own leadership to do some actual work and stop playing politics!

      E. Stop playing games!

      Your remarks have little to do with the Constitution except that they illustrate your disrespect for free speech and individual liberty. You have the power to “demand Constitutional action,” whatever that means, for yourself through your representative. You don’t have the power to demand others do the same.

      In light of this, tell me, what DOES the Constitution mean to you?

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      • dewey says:

        Monday, November 2, 2015 at 9:14 am

        Tina Back at you. The Constitution tells me that the Tea Party has no right to force their ideology on the majority. You spew all this and never address the point. You are complaining a President is not acting unconstitutionally with military action. I suggest the war powers act may be unconstitutional as well. Treading a thin line.

        A. I have a good idea on exactly what the Tea party does, I record the town halls, have gone to meetings ect. I am well aware and have even been to a meeting you were at once.

        More importantly is what the Tea Party elected do. Here In DC they are a Koch Coup holding Congress hostage. Their legislation is written by ALEC and lobbyists for the profit of their masters. Tina you have not a clue what really goes on. Your elected are the basis in which to monitor Tea Party goals.

        B./ C. It is the peoples duty to make sure we act within the Constitution. PERIOD. One could say you are not the Boss of Obama! But the more mature answer would be that we need to reel in these war powers given to the Executive office by the Congress. That we need to return to the Constitution.

        Republican Leadership has refused to do their constitutional duty to debate this war. Several attempts by Democrats in Congress have been made to bring it up and GOP tosses it out the window.

        The goal is to harm the President and that is the only goal of the GOP. It is in writing and documented.

        You can not have your cake and eat it too.

        The Tea Party is a Minority holding the country hostage for their master the Koch Brothers and friends. That is just the truth. The freedom caucus is funded mostly by KOCH.

        The Constitution is very clear on War and declaration of it.

        Put on some big girl pants. Anytime someone points out something you do not like you go postal.

        The only person playing games is the one who put up this response to a real issue.

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12. Dewey says:

    Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    Again Tina Come to DC I Will buy you lunch! I am going to campaign in Florida within the next month you have a 30 day invitation….

    You want to bring America Back? Then join us, Liberty and Justice for all, I believe that is part of the pledge of allegiance….. if that is changed ………………..questions all American History Eh?

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13. Dewey says:

    Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    ONLY CONGRESS CAN DECLARE WAR

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    • Tina says:

      Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 10:14 pm

      No kidding!

      Congress has the power and authority to declare war but it would be stupid to do so without involving the president. The president is the leader of the nation and Commander-in-Chief of the military. He is informed about matters of war from various generals and advisers on a daily basis and if war is declared he would make the decisions.

      If a president comes to believe war is necessary, as leader of the nation he should request from Congress what he needs, he should endeavor to convince Congress that war is justified.

      Enjoy your “trip” to Florida.

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14. Tina says:

    Monday, November 2, 2015 at 10:49 am

    Dewey the Tea Party isn’t trying to “force” any more than any other group of people…private sector unions, the lock step education sector, the climate change cabal, the black caucus, the LBGT’s…GEORGE SOROS FUNDED ORGANIZATIONS…you name it!

    ” legislation is written by ALEC”

    Oh horrors! “ALEC “works to advance the fundamental principles of free-market enterprise, limited government, and federalism at the state level through a nonpartisan public-private partnership of America’s state legislators, members of the private sector and the general public”

    Not only is legislation “written” (actually influenced) by socialist and various lefty organizations when Democrats have control of Congress your boy Bernie is also greatly influenced by these groups. Bernie will be pressed legislatively by the following groups:

    Communications Workers of America
    UNITE HERE
    National Education Assn
    American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees
    Service Employees International Union

    Gosh…what is UNITE HERE? “UNITE HERE is a labor union that represents 270,000 working people across Canada and the United States”

    AMAZING…the Tea Party is also made up of “working people.”

    “Republican Leadership has refused to do their constitutional duty to debate this war. Several attempts by Democrats in Congress have been made to bring it up and GOP tosses it out the window.”

    Oh really? WSJ Feb 2015, “Debate Opens on New War Powers – Obama Asks Congress to Back Islamic State Fight”:

    The new powers must be approved by Congress, where a debate quickly began taking shape as both Democrats and Republicans voiced sharp concerns. Democrats advocated for stricter limitations on presidential war power, particularly on the use of ground troops; many Republicans said the president needs greater flexibility in the fight against the group in Syria and Iraq than Mr. Obama has proposed. The U.S. has the authority to keep fighting while Congress debates the proposal.

    Doesn’t sound like the issue was “tossed out the window” to me.

    Who is the leader of the Democrat Party? Since when have Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid or any other Democrat seriously challenged the President?

    The President has done (and continues to do) enough to damage his own presidency.

    “The Tea Party is a Minority holding the country hostage ”

    Utter horse hockey. The lowly Tea Party’s influence could never equal the scope and influence of the Soros backed cabal of organizations, foundations, and activist groups: “We help to shape public policies,” “We implement initiatives,” ” $1.4 billion to promote reform in the United States on issues such as criminal justice, drugs, palliative care, education, immigration, equal rights, and democratic governance,” “Mr. Soros gave at least $33 million in one year to support already-established groups that emboldened the grass-roots, on-the-ground activists in Ferguson, according to the most recent tax filings of his nonprofit Open Society Foundations.”

    Your Tea Party/Koch protestations are a JOKE!

    “Put on some big girl pants. Anytime someone points out something you do not like you go postal. ”

    Not so Dewey. Every time someone points out something I “do not like” I pull on my big girls pants, sit at my computer, open to Post Scripts, and exercise MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to self expression which includes rebuttal…just as you do.

    In fact, that’s exactly what you just did. Are you grateful? Do you appreciate it? Or are you amog those who would SILENCE Tea Party and Koch Americans?

    I gotta tell you, you come off as someone who is interested in silencing those who don’t see things as you do!

    People in the Tea Party have the same right to participate as YOU do. Where the he77 to you come off?

    ” I am well aware and have even been to a meeting you were at once.”

    Dewey you are a bald faced LIAR. I have NEVER attended a Tea Party meeting of any kind.

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