Germany Gone PC Mad: Bans Pork Sausage in Cafe’s and Schools

Posted on Monday, March 7, 2016 by Post Scripts

OktoberfestPosted by Tina

Germany has banned pork products in schools and cafes so as not to offend Muslim refugees. This is insanity. A nation cannot bend it’s knee to the will of an invading minority fleeing the violence and oppression of terrorists inspired chaos and remain free. And this is going on in Germany, where one would think they should know better.

Apparently there are some in Merkel’s party that have the good sense to push back. Party representative Daniel Günther nails it:

He argued that those who didn’t want to eat pork didn’t have to, adding: “The consumption of pork belongs to our culture.

“No one should be obliged to do so. But we also don’t want the majority having to refrain from pork.”

Germany is a nation that celebrates with pork and beer. Can you imagine Oktoberfest without sausages?

When a guest in another country one should behave as a guest, no?

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21 Responses to Germany Gone PC Mad: Bans Pork Sausage in Cafe’s and Schools

  1. Libby says:
    Monday, March 7, 2016 at 11:24 am

    Again !

    I can find no non-moronic source for any such “ban”. Some entities are making their own decision to take pork off menus, but any legislated ban is a hyperbolic, paranoid fantasy of the right.

    And there’s still the veal and the beef. Lord, I wish you people would get a grip.

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  2. Tina says:
    Monday, March 7, 2016 at 2:33 pm

    The article contains a link old girl and whether you think it’s “moronic” or not is irrelevant. This is not a legislative ban but a PC ban done by local school districts and cafe owners. The resulting hoopla was broad enough and contentious enough to warrant a response by an official of Merkel’s party.

    The “people” that need to “get a grip” are you on the left who think you can and should reorder how people live according to an imagined slight or hurt feelings. It is HYPERBOLIC lefties who are constantly waving flags and issuing orders…”oh dear…we should only serve veal and beef so we won’t offend.

    Why shouldn’t the new arrivals be expected to simply choose veal or beef ?

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    • Chris says:
      Monday, March 7, 2016 at 5:14 pm

      Tina: “The article contains a link”

      Yes, a link to a far-right tabloid that supports one of Britain’s white nationalist parties and is best known for promoting conspiracy theories about Princess Diana.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Express

      Do better.

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      • Pie Guevara says:
        Monday, March 7, 2016 at 10:26 pm

        Well, well, well, Equus asinus again attacks the messenger. Drop dead Chris. The article is not fraudulent. Schools and canteens in Germany have banned pork from their menus over fears of offending Muslim migrants. Daniel Günther did make those statements.

        I won’t direct you to do better, Chris, you can’t.

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  4. Tina says:
    Monday, March 7, 2016 at 7:18 pm

    First of all “Sharia law” never came up in the story I posted.

    Second of all, the item is published in the media and could reflect local sentiment WHETHER OR NOT the “tabloid” it’s printed in is associated with so-called “white nationalist parties.”

    The public learned much too late about their daughters being gang raped in British towns just because the PC city officials refused to believe them. More here.

    And let us not forget the little blue dress, a story broken by the National Inquirer, a “tabloid” paper that did the job that main street “professional” journalists refused to do. Ditto concerning the affair John Edwards was having while running for president.

    Question the source if you want Chris but don;t kid yourself about the possibility, nay probability, that the story is true. In today’s PC trained population anything like this is possible…we’ve all seen it.

    Excerpt from an excellent speech by Bill Lind posted at Accuracy in Academia:

    We call it “Political Correctness.” The name originated as something of a joke, literally in a comic strip, and we tend still to think of it as only half-serious. In fact, it’s deadly serious. It is the great disease of our century, the disease that has left tens of millions of people dead in Europe, in Russia, in China, indeed around the world. It is the disease of ideology. PC is not funny. PC is deadly serious.

    If we look at it analytically, if we look at it historically, we quickly find out exactly what it is. Political Correctness is cultural Marxism. It is Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms. It is an effort that goes back not to the 1960s and the hippies and the peace movement, but back to World War I. If we compare the basic tenets of Political Correctness with classical Marxism the parallels are very obvious.

    First of all, both are totalitarian ideologies. The totalitarian nature of Political Correctness is revealed nowhere more clearly than on college campuses, many of which at this point are small ivy covered North Koreas, where the student or faculty member who dares to cross any of the lines set up by the gender feminist or the homosexual-rights activists, or the local black or Hispanic group, or any of the other sainted “victims” groups that PC revolves around, quickly find themselves in judicial trouble. Within the small legal system of the college, they face formal charges – some star-chamber proceeding – and punishment. That is a little look into the future that Political Correctness intends for the nation as a whole.

    Indeed, all ideologies are totalitarian because the essence of an ideology (I would note that conservatism correctly understood is not an ideology) is to take some philosophy and say on the basis of this philosophy certain things must be true – such as the whole of the history of our culture is the history of the oppression of women. Since reality contradicts that, reality must be forbidden. It must become forbidden to acknowledge the reality of our history. People must be forced to live a lie, and since people are naturally reluctant to live a lie, they naturally use their ears and eyes to look out and say, “Wait a minute. This isn’t true. I can see it isn’t true,” the power of the state must be put behind the demand to live a lie. That is why ideology invariably creates a totalitarian state.

    Second, the cultural Marxism of Political Correctness, like economic Marxism, has a single factor explanation of history. Economic Marxism says that all of history is determined by ownership of means of production. Cultural Marxism, or Political Correctness, says that all history is determined by power, by which groups defined in terms of race, sex, etc., have power over which other groups. Nothing else matters. All literature, indeed, is about that. Everything in the past is about that one thing.

    Third, just as in classical economic Marxism certain groups, i.e. workers and peasants, are a priori good, and other groups, i.e., the bourgeoisie and capital owners, are evil. In the cultural Marxism of Political Correctness certain groups are good – feminist women, (only feminist women, non-feminist women are deemed not to exist) blacks, Hispanics, homosexuals. These groups are determined to be “victims,” and therefore automatically good regardless of what any of them do. Similarly, white males are determined automatically to be evil, thereby becoming the equivalent of the bourgeoisie in economic Marxism.

    Fourth, both economic and cultural Marxism rely on expropriation. When the classical Marxists, the communists, took over a country like Russia, they expropriated the bourgeoisie, they took away their property. Similarly, when the cultural Marxists take over a university campus, they expropriate through things like quotas for admissions. When a white student with superior qualifications is denied admittance to a college in favor of a black or Hispanic who isn’t as well qualified, the white student is expropriated. And indeed, affirmative action, in our whole society today, is a system of expropriation. White owned companies don’t get a contract because the contract is reserved for a company owned by, say, Hispanics or women. So expropriation is a principle tool for both forms of Marxism.

    And finally, both have a method of analysis that automatically gives the answers they want. For the classical Marxist, it’s Marxist economics. For the cultural Marxist, it’s deconstruction. Deconstruction essentially takes any text, removes all meaning from it and re-inserts any meaning desired. So we find, for example, that all of Shakespeare is about the suppression of women, or the Bible is really about race and gender. All of these texts simply become grist for the mill, which proves that “all history is about which groups have power over which other groups.” So the parallels are very evident between the classical Marxism that we’re familiar with in the old Soviet Union and the cultural Marxism that we see today as Political Correctness.

    But the parallels are not accidents. The parallels did not come from nothing. The fact of the matter is that Political Correctness has a history, a history that is much longer than many people are aware of outside a small group of academics who have studied this. And the history goes back, as I said, to World War I, as do so many of the pathologies that are today bringing our society, and indeed our culture, down.

    If for no other thing, Trump will be remembered for being the first person on a national stage to bust through that veil and remain standing! And we thank him for that.

    Viva freedom of speech!

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  5. Chris says:
    Monday, March 7, 2016 at 8:27 pm

    1) The fact that some tabloids have sometimes reported the truth does not excuse the fact that you constantly mine tabloids and report their findings as truth, even when there is no confirmation of whether what they have said is true.

    2) The title of your article refers to Germany “banning” items, which is in no way true. You try and justify this by saying “This is not a legislative ban but a PC ban done by local school districts and cafe owners,” which is meaningless, and also a complete backpedal from the title. That’s because your title is a lie. Germany did not ban anything, and you know that; you should admit that what you said wasn’t true, and that you created a false headline to get more people to read your article.

    3) You haven’t even proven that any local school district or cafe has stopped serving pork due to a desire to appease Muslims. All you’ve done is show that some German politicians have made this claim. As far as I can tell, no evidence of their claims has been presented.

    Do you have any?

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    • Tina says:
      Monday, March 7, 2016 at 9:36 pm

      Constantly mine tabloids?

      According to our records, Jack and I have posted 10,226 Posts. I don’t know if that’s just since we switched to WordPress or if it represents all of them since Jack began. I also don’t know how many of those contain links, but I do know that the vast majority do DO NOT contain links that lead to tabloids. So who’s making stuff up now?

      Germany can refer to the nation; it can also refer to the people. The title could have been worded better. So what!

      “you created a false headline to get more people to read your article.”

      I didn’t. If I had a better reason would be just to watch you, the self appointed thought police, have a hissy fit. You are truly pathetic.

      “All you’ve done is show that some German politicians have made this claim ”

      Hmmm, politicians making claims that are in the news…let’s see:

      If you like your insurance you can keep your insurance.

      If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.

      Premiums “for the typical family” will go down.

      “…what difference, at this point, does it make?

      Politicians say stuff all the time. This time it was about sausages. Guess which stories in the news did more damage?

      Now…go get your panties in a bunch elsewhere.

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  7. Chris says:
    Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 6:35 am

    Complaining about misleading headlines = thought police. Got it.

    Again, do you have any evidence to support claims that any German schools or cafes banned pork and sausage products?

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  8. Tina says:
    Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 12:10 pm

    Thanks to Pie for providing links.

    It’s kinda fun when the accusatory finger is pointed AFTER the evidence is provided 🙂

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  9. Pie Guevara says:
    Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 12:59 pm

    Tina : Once Chris’ panties get in a bunch, they stay bunched. He has a permanent wedgie.

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  10. Peggy says:
    Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    Off topic.

    How about a look back at the history of the Democrat party.

    The 1924 Democratic National Convention, also called the Klanbake, held at the Madison Square Garden: (Note the vote for the KKK platform plank.)

    http://armored-column.com/the-democratic-klanbake-1924/

    For those who may have a problem with the source here’s another one.

    1924 Democratic National Convention:

    http://www.worldlibrary.org/articles/1924_democratic_national_convention

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  11. Chris says:
    Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    Pie,

    Thanks for the links. The last one is the only one relating to schools eliminating pork and sausage from the menu, but it refers to areas in England, not Germany. That said, it’s possible that some schools in Germany have done the same, and it’s possible they did so for political reasons.

    I still can find nothing supporting the first sentence in Tina’s article:

    “Germany has banned pork products in schools and cafes so as not to offend Muslim refugees.”

    Even if some German schools have undertaken such a ban, the statement “Germany has banned pork products in schools and cafes” is simply false. It would be like if some American schools did the same and Tina wrote “America has banned pork products in schools and cafes.” It simply is. Not. True.

    I also missed this bit from Tina the first time through:

    “This is insanity. A nation cannot bend it’s knee to the will of an invading minority fleeing the violence and oppression of terrorists inspired chaos and remain free.”

    Calling refugees an “invading” minority is wrong, and borders on racist. And Tina, given that just after that you use more sympathetic language toward the refugees (“fleeing the violence and oppression of terrorists”) you really should no better. Are they invaders, or are they fleeing terror? You talk out of both sides of your mouth when it comes to Muslims and it just muddles your message. I believe you have sympathy for others and I don’t believe you are motivated by hatred, but when you refer to immigrants as “invaders” and use misleading language to make it seem like they are changing a Western country for the worse (as you did when you falsely stated that “Germany has banned…”), it stirs up racism and resentment.

    You can do better.

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    • Tina says:
      Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:15 pm

      “you really should no better. ”

      You really should too.

      “You can do better.”

      If I wanted, or needed, a gold star from “teacher” maybe I’d give a rip.

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      • Chris says:
        Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 5:40 pm

        You’d also “give a rip” if you cared at all about the truth. You don’t, which is why you lied about Germany banning something they have not, in any way, banned.

        At least you admit you don’t care about the truth.

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  12. Libby says:
    Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    Chris, would she have re-posted the bogus drivel if she held any sort of ambiguous position? To tolerate the quibbling any longer is to invite no small quantity of nastiness. It’s time to draw a line. They will be required to say what they mean.

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  13. Tina says:
    Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    “They will be required to say what they mean.”

    The control freak chimes in.

    The day the two of you manage to post perfection will be the day I bow to your relentless monitoring and control-freakery and that day will be beyond when he77 freezes over.

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