Trump Better Up His Game, says Newt

Posted by Jack

WASHINGTON (SBG) — More than a week ago, Donald Trump clinched the number of delegates needed to win the Republican nomination for president. Tuesday, primaries in six states are likely to further cement that spot. But all is not quiet in the Republican camp. Trump, the outsider, still rankles some party insiders.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich: Well, I think there’s a really big, deep argument about the future of the party, but it’s not much of a crisis. It’s 80 or 90 percent of the party nationally versus 5 or 10 percent of the party in Washington. So in the end, Washington will lose and the country will win.

Sharyl Attkisson: Is Trump, do you see, as part of the solution or part of the problem?

Gingrich: I don’t know yet if he’s a solution, because we don’t know how he’s going to work out, but he certainly is a sign that the unhappiness in the country is so deep that Trump made more sense than 16 other choices. The country wants somebody who’s going to kick over the table.

Trump attacks on judge among his ‘worst mistakes,’ ‘inexcusable’*

Attkisson: Do you agree that that’s what they should get?

Gingrich: Absolutely. I think the system [is] sick and I think it needs to be very dramatically overhauled.

*Gingrich is declining on “Fox News Sunday” to accuse the presumptive Republican presidential nominee of racism. But Gingrich says Trump has to recognize that he’s now the “potential leader” of the U.S. and should move his game to a new level. Trump has proposed building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. And he argues that U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel has a conflict of interest in the legal case because of the judge’s heritage and because of Trump’s border plan.

This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink.

49 Responses to Trump Better Up His Game, says Newt

  1. Chris says:

    Given that a major critique of Obama has been his alleged hostility to the other branches of government, how do Trump’s attacks on Judge Curiel indicate a President Trump would behave toward Supreme Court judges who make rulings he doesn’t like?

    Lindsey Graham has a warning for Trump supporters, calling Trump’s prejudiced attacks on Judge Curial “the most un-American thing from a politician since Joe McCarthy.”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/06/07/politics/lindsey-graham-donald-trump/index.html?client=safari#

    Remember that Trump doxxed Graham last year, revealing his home phone number. Would Trump continue using such tactics to target congressmen who go against him as president? Would you support the continued use of such tactics?

    • Tina says:

      “Alledged hostility to the other branches of government?”

      Obama’s on tape showing contempt for other branches of government!

      If ” hostility to the other branches of government” disqualifies a person for the presidency then you must think Obama should have been impeached for openly insulting the Supreme Court justices in the (world-wide) televised State of the Union speech and for inviting Paul Ryan to meeting under the guise of a “meeting of the minds” where he then insulted Ryan before the cameras.

      The Vice President should also be disqualified for ineliquent, deliberate remarks before a black audience that Romney (republican policies) would “put y’all back in chains.”

      Powerline points out that Hillary, through surrogates of course, accused the IG of bias:

      Trump’s response is that the class case would not have been allowed to proceed had the judge not been biased. It’s the natural politician’s answer — very similar to Team Clinton’s suggestion that the State Department inspector general is biased against her.

      Clinton’s complaint lacks plausibility. For one thing, the IG is an Obama appointee.

      Daily Wire:

      The Hillary campaign sent out press secretary Brian Fallon on Wednesday to try to divert, obfuscate, and tamp down the “devastating” revelations. Far from providing satisfying answers to an increasingly hostile press, Fallon only managed to float a desperate conspiracy theory about supposed “anti-Clinton bias” in the Obama-appointed Inspector General’s Office.

      Lindsey Graham is a compromised Republican with a grudge so it’s not surprising at all that he would pile on. But really Chris, your going to bring this up after Hillary exposed CIA operatives and sensitive material by using her unsecured private server?

      WASHINGTON — Hillary Clinton’s e-mails included the names of CIA officers serving overseas and foreigners who are on the spy agency’s payroll — potentially endangering their lives, it was reported Monday.

      “It’s a death sentence,” a senior intelligence-community official told the Observer. “If we’re lucky, only [foreign] agents, not our officers, will get killed because of this.”

      It should be noted too that Obama was elected despite the fact that he was openly critical of the Constitution, a document that he would one day be required to defend.

      Your concerns, though important, are phony, hypocritical, and partisan.

    • Pie Guevara says:

      Re : “alleged hostility”

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

      Obama’s water boy is working overtime. Talk about deliberately turning a blind eye! Hear no evil, see no evil, speak evil.

  2. Chris says:

    More opposition from conservative writer Jennifer Rubin:

    The most disturbing part of the Donald Trump phenomenon is the abysmal reaction of others on the right and across our political-media landscape. It is not merely left-wing protesters who turn violent or Trumpkin racists and anti-Semites on social media who should alarm us. Rather, it should concern us when so many wake up to say, “Let’s do the wrong, cowardly thing.”

    Imagine if:

    Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus never went on bended knee to Trump with his worthless pledge but instead routinely denounced his utterances.
    Republican candidates with no real chance to win chose not to run or quickly dropped out and denounced Trump, leaving only three or four candidates in the field.
    Mike Murphy at the Jeb Bush super PAC spent more money exposing Trump than attacking other Republicans.
    During the debate the Trump opponents had uniformly denounced his bigoted rhetoric, ridiculed his lame ideas and leaped on his lies.
    The other Republicans refused to say they’d support him as the nominee.
    Cable TV did not give Trump billions of dollars in free airtime and critically interviewed him and investigated his scandals from the get-go.
    Fox News behaved like a real news operation.
    Radio talk show hosts posing as conservatives had revealed Trump as a charlatan, a hater and a fraud.
    Washington Post: ‘Trump is pathologically dishonest and morally bankrupt’
    Washington Post: ‘Trump is pathologically dishonest and morally bankrupt’
    The Star-Ledger has made this observation before. This week WaPo makes it clear it does not trust the GOP presumptive nominee.

    The RNC quickly reduced the debates to four or five competitors so as to provide them and the moderators with more time to grill Trump.
    Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) had not fawned over Trump for months.
    Social conservative leaders in unison had denounced Trump as racist, ignorant, cruel, dishonest, greedy and ungenerous instead of being content after he checked the antiabortion box and toted around a Bible.
    The RNC made clear that the rules at the convention would require the release of five years of tax reforms.
    Republican leaders refused to endorse Trump after he secured the requisite number of delegates, donors refused to fund him and elected GOP officials declined to speak for him at the convention.
    An attractive team (Sasse-Haley, Ryan-Martinez) had chosen to contest Trump and run as an independent ticket.
    If even a few of these things had occurred, we might not now have an openly racist GOP nominee and a dismal election choice.

    And even if we had exactly the same result — a Trump vs. Hillary Clinton election — all of the players identified above would have had the satisfaction that goes with doing the honorable thing. They could have looked their children in the eye and said, “When bad people come along, your obligation is to do your part to stop them.” And they would be in a position after Trump passes from the political scene to pick up the pieces and chart a new course for the conservative movement and the GOP.

    Instead of principled leadership, we have had mass followership, a display of widespread moral idiocy. Make a buck. Preserve your “political viability.” “Unify” the party.

    It is ironic that one of the icons of modern conservatism, Edmund Burke, had this phenomenon pegged almost 300 years ago when he said: “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

    Dear GOP: I’m breaking up with you over Trump | Opinion
    Dear GOP: I’m breaking up with you over Trump | Opinion
    Conservative Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin finally calls it quits on the Republican Party, says Trump is just to much for her to stick around.

    In this case it was worse; good men behaved badly, facilitating evil.

    From our vantage point, a post-Trump conservative party will need to repudiate the institutional conduct of the RNC, Trump and his backers. In simplest terms it will need to restore virtue and character as the fundamental prerequisites of public leadership.

    It will be more difficult because having nominated Trump, the GOP and the country will have reset our tolerance for moral and intellectual sloth.

    Ramesh Ponnuru writes:

    “If we elevate a man we know to be cruel, impulsive, insecure, vain and dishonest to the most powerful position in our country, that choice helps to define our own character and shape our expectations for one another.”

    Several years ago Peter Wehner wrote:

    “The task of modern American conservatism is to sketch out a vision of the kind of citizens we hope to produce: citizens who are self-sufficient, sovereign, discerning, and responsible. We need to promote policies that encourage success, enterprise, and human excellence. This is another way of saying that what conservatives should be championing is self-government. If done in the right way — in a manner that is uplifting rather than preachy, affirming rather than scolding — it can help rally an anxious country to an admirable cause.”

    Are there are such leaders out there who will promote and not undermine those qualities, who, while flawed like all of us, will aspire to be better? Perhaps we will need to look beyond the political realm to the military, philanthropy, education and the sciences to find leaders with a reliable moral compass. We cannot be great if our leaders intentionally reject the real values that are critical to a functioning democracy — decency, tolerance, kindness, restraint, empathy and rationality.

    http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/06/because_gop_leaders_were_cowards_trump_now_represe.html#incart_most-commented_politics_article

    This isn’t about right and left. It’s about right and wrong.

  3. Chris says:

    Paul Ryan agrees that Trump’s attack on Judge Curiel was “the textbook definition of a racist comment.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/07/politics/paul-ryan-donald-trump-racist-comment/index.html

  4. Chris says:

    Megyn Kelly–who knows the law better than most of us–has criticized pundits defending Trump’s attacks on Judge Curiel, pointing out the consequences to our legal system if Trump got his way:

    Now even some pundits are demanding that Judge Curiel step down to eliminate doubts as to his motivations, but that is not the way our system works. Judges must indeed avoid conflicts of interest or the appearance of conflicts of interest, but litigants do not get to create that appearance by vocally complaining about the judge. Any litigant who moved to disqualify a judge based on his heritage would be actually sanctioned — punished — by any court and it’s happened in the past, rightfully. Moreover if a litigant making a stink about a judge necessarily resulted in a conflict that would force a judge to step down, it would lead to chaos in our court system. It would prejudice the other party who’s not complaining or taking their licks. And it would lead to more parties throwing fits in order to bounce judges off the case whose rulings they do not like. Simply put this is not the way our system was designed to work.

    And today with all this controversy coming to a head, Bloomberg dropped a bombshell report quoting sources who are on a phone call with Mr. Trump saying the candidate called on supporters to join him in questioning the judge’s credibility and went on to ask them to also attack the reporters who asked about it.

    • Pie Guevara says:

      Kelly gets it wrong. If this were simply about Trump criticizing Curiel’s Mexican heritage, she would have a point.

      But this is not just about Gonzalo Curiel’s Mexican heritage, it is about his and the prosecuting lawyers’ firm membership in the racist organization the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association which has long standing ties to the racist organizations National Council of La Raza and MEChA.

      • Chris says:

        1) Trump did not mention La Raza at any point in his original diatribe against Judge Curiel. His entire argument was that Curiel was biased because he was Mexican. Here’s the full quote:

        Everybody says it, but I have a judge who is a hater of Donald Trump. He’s a hater. His name is Gonzalo Curial… We are in front of a very hostile judge. The judge was appointed by by Barack Obama – federal judge. [Boos]. Frankly he should recuse himself. He has given us ruling after ruling, negative, negative, negative. I have a top lawyer who said he has never seen anything like this before. So what happens is we get sued. We have a Magistrate named William Gallo who truly hates us..Watch how we win it as I have been treated unfairly. . . . So what happens is the judge, who happens to be, we believe Mexican, which is great. I think that is fine. You know what? I think the Mexicans are going to end up loving Donald Trump when I give all these jobs. I think they are going to love it. I think they are going to love me. . .I think Judge Curiel should be ashamed of himself. I think it is a disgrace he is doing this… It is a disgrace. It is a rigged system…They ought to look into Judge Curiel because what Judge Curiel is doing is a total disgrace.

        https://ethicsalarms.com/2016/06/07/ethics-observations-on-the-donald-trump-mexican-judge-affair/

        Trump only began mentioning Curiel’s connections with La Raza later, to justify his initial ridiculous stance.

        2) None of the organizations you named are racist.

        3) It would not even matter if Curiel’s group was racist. What would matter would be if the judge had any record of letting his bias interfere with his judgment. Unless Trump can prove that, he has no grounds to accuse Curiel of bias.

        4) Trump’s lawyers know this, which is why they have not accused Curiel of bias. This is a political ploy–an excuse so that if Trump loses the case, his supporters will believe it wasn’t because he actually scammed people, but because the judge was bias. Given that these people are all currently being scammed by Trump, I expect this to be very persuasive among his target audience.

        • Chris says:

          I should point out I disagree with Jack Marshall’s conclusion at that link that Trump’s statements weren’t technically racism–I think he is being pedantic on that point. But he does a good job of explaining that Trump has no real argument in favor of the judge’s recusal.

    • Libby says:

      You don’t suppose this is finally the final straw? … like when McCarthy attacked the Army?

      Oh, to have it all stop.

      I have been waiting very patiently for the powers to rouse themselves: “We hear you, alright, … but you are an ignorant, angry mob … and you are not thinking clearly … and Trump is simply not an option.”

      Not that it will be anything this overt, but I like to think that many persons of global influence are pointing out to Mr. Ryan the incongruity of his support for a candidate he admits is refusing to abide by the rules, both moral and legal.

      • Tina says:

        Hillary Clinton does not abide by “the rules.”

        Bill Clinton does not abide by “the rules.”

        Barack Obama has not been abiding by “the rules.”

        Bernie sanders couldn’t even abide by “the rules” in a commune.

  5. Chris says:

    It isn’t clear to me that that the reports about Clinton’s e-mails endangering CIA operatives are accurate, Tina:

    A handful of emails forwarded to Hillary Clinton’s personal server while she was secretary of state contained references to undercover CIA officers — including one who was killed by a suicide attack in Afghanistan, according to U.S. officials who have reviewed them.

    But contrary to some published reports, three officials said there was no email on Clinton’s server that directly revealed the identity of an undercover intelligence operative. Rather, they said, State Department and other officials attempted to make veiled references to intelligence officers in the emails — references that were deemed classified when the messages were being reviewed years later for public release.

    Image: U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton takes a question during a campaign rally in Derry, New Hampshire
    Hillary Clinton takes a question at a rally in New Hampshire on Feb. 3, 2016. ADREES LATIF / Reuters
    In one case, an official said, an undercover CIA officer was referred to as a State Department official with the word “State,” in quotes, as if to suggest the emailer knew the officer was not actually a diplomat. In another case, an email refers to “OGA” for “other government agency,” a common reference to the CIA. Yet another now-classified email chain originated with a member of the CIA director’s staff, leading some officials to question how Clinton could be blamed.

    Related: Judge Sets Hearing Date in Clinton Email Case

    Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon said no intelligence officer had been identified in the emails, and that misleading details from the emails were being leaked to hurt the candidate.

    “This shows yet again how the leaking of selective details gives a completely false impression about what is actually contained in the emails forwarded to Hillary Clinton,” said Fallon. “Whenever the full contents of these emails are learned, there is invariably less than meets the eye.”

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/clinton-emails-held-indirect-references-undercover-cia-officers-n510741

    This article also casts doubt on the claims.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/06/05/hillary-clintons-email-is-the-foia-security-review-endangering-cia-officers/

    • Tina says:

      Dick Morris, writing at Jewish World Review:

      Hillary Clinton’s use of a private, non-secure email server housed in her Chappaqua basement resulted in the exposure of hundreds of classified documents to foreign hackers. Some of her emails contained highly classified information that endangered the lives of our spies.

      According to the State Department Inspector General, 22 of Hillary’s emails totaling 38 pages included materials marked “HCS-O,” the most sensitive category reserved for information about clandestine CIA operatives in ongoing operations. These emails were so sensitive that they could not be released — even with the entire message redacted.

      According to John Schindler, an intelligence analyst writing for The Observer,, “these classified emails could jeopardize “sources, methods, and lives…and exposed the Holy Grail items of American espionage such as the true names of Central Intelligence Agency intelligence officers serving overseas under cover,” Schindler added :”Worse, some of those exposed are serving under non-official cover.”

      Schindler has confirmed the content of the emails and labeled them as “colossally damaging to our national security [that[has put lives at risk,” According to Schindler’s sources, the names of foreigners on the CIA payroll were also included, jeopardizing their cove — and their lives — if the material was hacked.

      On her home-brewed server, the documents were unprotected and easily vulnerable to hackers. According to former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, Hillary’s emails were probably hacked by China, Russia, and Iran.
      Hillary’s response to this shocking disclosure by the Inspector General is vintage Clinton: there’s no problem because she “never sent or received any emails marked “classified.” To her, that’s the end of the discussion. All the attention to her emails and her private server by the FBI and by U.S. intelligence agencies is either unnecessary bureaucratic in-fighting or the right wing conspiracy trying to derail her candidacy. Nothing is her fault.

      But it is her fault. She set up the secret server and she was careless in the handling of the most sensitive material. She put her “convenience” over the safety of our CIA agents. And, according to the Intelligence Community Inspector General, at least 2 emails were marked “Top Secret” when sent.
      As for the purportedly “unmarked” classified information, it is absolutely NOT TRUE that classified material has to be marked – and Hillary knows it. It is irrelevant whether it was marked or not and State Department employees are taught that as soon as they begin to work. In fact, on the first day she took office as Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton signed a mandatory “Classified Information Non-Disclosure Agreement” and swore to keep all classified materials confidential. That Agreement did not apply to only those document that were marked “Classified” or “Top Secret.”

      The Agreement” defined what the term “classified” actually meant:

      “As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or UNMARKED”

      Hillary Clinton is playing her own version of “it depends on what the meaning of is is.” That was Bill Clinton’s cutesy response to the Grand Jury when asked about whether there “is” a relationship with Monica Lewinsky.

      What keeps the media from hammering Hillary on this MAJOR scandal?

      A. They are in bed with Hillary and want to help get her elected.

      B. she makes sure they don;t have much exposure to her.

      C. when she does take questions they are scripted, as are her answers.

      • Chris says:

        Dick Morris, Tina? As in…”disgraced laughingstock Dick Morris,” whom the betters in your party don’t event want to be seen with?

        Embarrassing. I won’t read it.

    • Tina says:

      Jonathan Turley, a respected democrat lawyer wrote

      We have been closely following the Clinton email scandal and this morning additional information was leaked on the 22 “top secret” emails withheld by the States Department An official is quoted as saying that some of those emails contained “operational intelligence” and jeopardized “sources, methods and lives.” While I agree with the Clinton campaign that these leaks are themselves problematic (both in terms of their timing and their disclosures from an ongoing investigation), I have long maintained that this was a serious scandal and that Clinton’s evolving defense does not track with national security rules or procedures. I consider the decision to use exclusively an unsecure server for “convenience” to be a breathtakingly reckless act for one of the top officials in our government. I am also deeply concerned about the level of “spin” coming from the campaign that is misrepresenting the governing standards and practices in the field. Much of what has been said in defense of Clinton’s use of the email system is knowingly misleading in my view.

      In addition, Rep. Mike Pompeo, R-Kan., who sits on the House intelligence committee, “suggested the military and intelligence communities have had to change operations” due to the presumption that Clinton’s emails were compromised.

      Since this is in a long-standing field of practice, I have been watching the scandal unfold with particular interest. I have previously noted that the decision of Clinton to use a personal server showed incredibly bad judgment that put classified information at risk. The defense that the information was not marked, which the campaign has been using recently, does not address the fundamental issues in the scandal.

      Clinton has insisted that “I never sent classified material on my email, and I never received any that was marked classified.” The key of this spin is again the word “marked.” I have previously discussed why that explanation is less than compelling, particularly for anyone who has handled sensitive or classified material. As I discussed earlier, virtually anything coming out of the office of the Secretary of State would be considered classified as a matter of course. I have had a TS/SCI clearance since Reagan due to my national security work and have lived under the restrictions imposed on email and other systems. The defense is that this material was not technically classified at the time that it was sent. Thus it was not “classified” information. The problem is that it was not reviewed and classified because it was kept out of the State Department system. Moreover, most high-level communications are treated as classified and only individually marked as classified when there is a request for disclosure. You do not generate material as the Secretary of State and assume that it is unclassified. You are supposed to assume and treat it as presumptively classified. Indeed that understanding was formally agreed to by Clinton when she signed the “Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement,” or SF-312, which states that “classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications.” Otherwise, there would be massive exposure of classified material and willful blindness as to the implications of the actions of persons disregarding precautions. For example, there is not a person standing next to the President with a classification stamp in the Oval Office. However, those communications are deemed as presumptively classified and are not disclosed absent review. Under the same logic, the President could use a personal email system because his text messages by definition are not marked as classified. Classified oral communications are not “marked” nor would classified information removed from secure systems and sent via a personal server. Likewise, classified oral communications that are followed up with emails would not be “marked.” This is the whole reason that Clinton and others were told to use the protected email system run by the State Department. We have spent hundreds of millions of dollars to secure such systems.

      What is equally curious is the decision by Clinton to double down in the last town hall and reject the claim that she used “poor judgment” in using an unsecure system. To say that you decided to risk confidential and classified communications for “convenience” is hardly a compelling case for someone who is running on her national security and foreign affairs experience.

  6. Tina says:

    As long as we’re going to continue in this distraction it’s important to recall remarks made by Justice Sotomayer prior to being considered for appointment to the SC:

    WASHINGTON — In 2001, Sonia Sotomayor, an appeals court judge, gave a speech declaring that the ethnicity and sex of a judge “may and will make a difference in our judging.”

    In her speech, Judge Sotomayor questioned the famous notion — often invoked by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and her retired Supreme Court colleague, Sandra Day O’Connor — that a wise old man and a wise old woman would reach the same conclusion when deciding cases.

    “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor, who is now considered to be near the top of President Obama’s list of potential Supreme Court nominees.

    Her remarks, at the annual Judge Mario G. Olmos Law and Cultural Diversity Lecture at the University of California, Berkeley, were not the only instance in which she has publicly described her view of judging in terms that could provoke sharp questioning in a confirmation hearing.

    This month, for example, a video surfaced of Judge Sotomayor asserting in 2005 that a “court of appeals is where policy is made.” She then immediately adds: “And I know — I know this is on tape, and I should never say that because we don’t make law. I know. O.K. I know. I’m not promoting it. I’m not advocating it. I’m — you know.”

    Jack I agree Trump must “up his game.” He can make the same points he has in his head without making remarks he must later explain if he will just pause before he speaks to collect his thoughts.

    The media pushed to make this an ongoing “hot” campaign topic. Trump’s willingness to engage with the media is a double edged sword. He must find a way to turn this conversation back to topics that matter to the American people.

    Hillary’s unwillingness to engage allows her some measure of cover for her own personal scandals as a public official. Benghazi and her compromised unethical email server are certainly more relevant to the contest than Trumps personal legal problems but she offers almost zero opportunity for the press to question her.

    We should be talking about Hillary Clinton’s failures at state and the failures of the Obama administration both on foreign affairs and the economy.

    In this instance Trump has not made the best use of the media…time to “up his game!”

    • Libby says:

      “In 2001, Sonia Sotomayor, an appeals court judge, gave a speech ….?”

      And this is pertinent because … they are both Hispanic? That would be yet another racist proposition.

      You guys really don’t get it, at all, do you?

      However, judges have biases. They are human. But our legal system is based on, among other things, the idea that a person whose intellect and education brings them to such an exalted position has the wherewithal to curb their personal biases for the public good. And when a judge is proven, that is proven, unable, they are, theoretically, removed.

      But as maintaining civic faith in this system is vitally important, we cannot have people casting spurious, racist, and baseless aspersions. And as there is nothing legally wrong with Curiel’s rulings to date (per the legal punditry), the future of the republic requires that The ELE (who is really living up to the sobriquet) be properly stomped for this.

  7. Pie Guevara says:

    Gonzalo Curiel is a member of a racist organization — the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association.

    He might as well be a member of the San Diego Ku Klux Klan Lawyers Association.

    • Chris says:

      Don’t you ever feel like stopping yourself from saying ridiculous things? Who has La Raza lynched? Who have they advocated should be denied their civil rights?

      • Pie Guevara says:

        Hmmm, Chris is arguing that true racism is measured by violence and denial of civil rights. I note that La Raza has been at the core of violent confrontations with Trump supporters and has denied their rights to peaceably assemble without the threat of violence and intimidation. They haven’t lynched anyone yet so they could not possibly be vile racists, right?

        Trump hasn’t lynched anyone yet either nor denied anyone their civil rights, so by Chris’ criteria, he could not possibly be a racist.

        Chris, allow me to state that one does not have to lynch someone to be vile racist or the participate in a vile racist organization YOU JACKASS.

        Educate yourself about La Raza or keep you head stuck up your nether region. It makes no difference to me if you remain stupid and ignorant and ignore La Raza’s (and MEChA’s) racist core and manifesto.

        Hey, the more idiotically and obliviously hypocritical you are, the more laughs for me! Keep up the good work, unintentional comedian.

        • Tina says:

          Chris forgave that old KKK member Byrd, who quite likely participated in lynchings, because he renounced his former views, even though he continued to be decidedly un-PC…used the “N” word on TV.

          MSN:

          joined the Ku Klux Klan at the age of 22 in 1944 According to a letter Byrd wrote to Sen. Theodore Bilbo at the height of World War II, he refused to join the military because he might have to serve alongside “race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”

          Wikipedia:

          Democrat United States Senator Robert C. Byrd was a recruiter for the Klan while in his 20s and 30s, rising to the title of Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops of his local chapter. After leaving the group, Byrd spoke in favor of the Klan during his early political career. Though he claimed to have left the organization in 1943, Byrd wrote a letter in 1946 to the group’s Imperial Wizard stating “The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia.” Byrd defended the Klan in his 1958 U.S. Senate campaign when he was 41 years old.[3]

          Despite being the only Senator to vote against both African American U.S. Supreme Court nominees (liberal Thurgood Marshall and conservative Clarence Thomas) and filibustering the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Byrd later said joining the Klan was his “greatest mistake.” The NAACP gave him a 100% rating on their issues during the 108th Congress.[4] However, in a 2001 incident Byrd repeatedly used the phrase “white niggers” on a national television broadcast.[5]

          Sure seems to be a double standard.

          • Chris says:

            Tina, if Trump apologizes for his racism, then spends decades championing civil rights causes, in a complete reversal of his previous discriminatory policies–as Byrd did–and I still don’t forgive him, then you can complain of a “double standard.” Until then, feel satisfied that I am applying the exact same standard, and Trump simply falls short.

        • Chris says:

          Pie: “Hmmm, Chris is arguing that true racism is measured by violence and denial of civil rights.”

          No, Pie, my response was in reply to your comparison between La Raza and the KKK. Of course one can be a racist without doing those things.

          “I note that La Raza has been at the core of violent confrontations with Trump supporters and has denied their rights to peaceably assemble without the threat of violence and intimidation.”

          Has the organization itself advocated these violent confrontations, or was it individual members who took these actions?

          “They haven’t lynched anyone yet so they could not possibly be vile racists, right?”

          Sure they could. But it is still ridiculous to compare them to the KKK.

          “Trump hasn’t lynched anyone yet either nor denied anyone their civil rights, so by Chris’ criteria, he could not possibly be a racist.”

          Sure he could. But it would be ridiculous to compare him to the KKK.

          “Chris, allow me to state that one does not have to lynch someone to be vile racist or the participate in a vile racist organization YOU JACKASS.”

          You sure are reacting strongly to something I never said.

          “Educate yourself about La Raza or keep you head stuck up your nether region.”

          So your complete inability to prove your charge of racism makes it my responsibility to “educate myself” on your baseless claim?

          • Tina says:

            Chris do you honestly believe that every organization is always on the up and up or that if they were organizing violent protests, for instance, they would trumpet it?

            You refuse to get how deeply covert and corrupt the leadership and its various organs are…and how anti-American.

            La Raza isn’t dangerous because it helps people, which it does, it is dangerous because it is covertly subversive.

            The mafia had legitimate businesses too.

            Saul Alinsky funds thousands of left wing 501c4’s created explicitly for the purpose of furthering the left wing political agenda. None of those little operations ever come under scrutiny by the IRS nor, I would bet, have they been audited for illegal political activity:

            …as David Horowitz and Jacob Laksin show in their meticulously researched 2012 book, The New Leviathan: How the Left-Wing Money Machine Shapes American Politics and Threatens America’s Future, the greatest exploiters of the “murkiness” of “social welfare” activism are by far left-wing organizations. The collective assets of liberal-progressive grant-making foundations are in fact 10 times the size of the assets of conservative foundations.

            DiscoverTheNetworks.org, a website run by the David Horowitz Freedom Center, identified 115 major progressive or left-leaning foundations. In 2010, it found the progressive foundations had total assets of $104.56 billion.

            The left-leaning National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy and Think Progress, a popular blog run by the Center for American Progress Action Fund, identified 82 major conservative grant-making foundations. In 2010, they found the conservative foundations had total assets of just $10.29 billion.

          • Pie Guevara says:

            Of course it is not ridiculous to compare La Raza to the KKK, both are vile racist organizations who believe in their racial supremacy.

            Only a hair splitting twit like you would try and draw a distinction. Why? Because you approve of the La Raza racists.

            My claim is not baseless, read what La Raza has had in their charter and has said about themselves. I am not going to hold your hand on this Chrs, either you have the intellectual curiosity and ability, or you are just another ****-for-brains progressive with his head up his …

          • Pie Guevara says:

            Re : “You sure are reacting strongly to something I never said.”

            LMAO.

            Dear boy, you posted “Who has La Raza lynched? Who have they advocated should be denied their civil rights?”

            I was merely responding with an observation you seemed to have missed with your idiotic defense of the racist organization La Raza who hasn’t lynched anyone (yet).

            “Has the organization itself advocated these violent confrontations, or was it individual members who took these actions?”

            Now you are being deliberately obtuse. La Raza is the organizing force behind the violent protests.

          • Chris says:

            I got sh*t to do today, Pie. You want me to see what part of the La Raza charter you’re referring to, link to it. Or are accusations of racism without evidence only wrong when liberals make them?

  8. Pie Guevara says:

    I have to laugh at Chris’ foaming at the mouth anti-Trump campaign, citing Pau Ryan (*eyeroll*) and quoting Ramesh Ponnuru. Chris, you really ought to get a grip before you burst a blood vessel.

    It is a well known fact National Review has long been on the anti-Trump bandwagon, and I agree with much of what they have had to say. I too do not like Trump.

    Ponnuru is entitled to his perception and opinion of Trump and is welcome to it, but the bottom line is this — Hillary or Sanders would be far more dangerous and destructive as POTUS than Trump. The #NeverTrump crowd had better wake up to that reality or this country will be sunk for the next 100 years and be turned from the economic powerhouse it once was and into a bankrupt third world nation. Venezuela is coming if this keeps up.

    End of story.

    • Chdis says:

      You’re not just wrong, you’re obviously wrong. Sanders and Clinton are people whose political philosophies you disagree with, but they are still within the mainstream of American politics and normal human behavior. They are, at worst, known evils. You know how to handle them. Trump is an unpredictable child, and you don’t give an unpredictable child nuclear codes.

      Also: it was just reported today that Donald Trump may have tried to bribe a judge.

      http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e16a8223c24048d290883370dc6abe5b/florida-ag-asked-trump-donation-nixing-fraud-case

      This is exactly the type of corruption and conflict of interest Republicans have been trying to accuse the Clintons of for years. I’m sure Trump’s supporters will look the other way on this one, though.

      • Tina says:

        Thanks for posting comment to Post Scripts Chdis. You write: “but they are still within the mainstream of American politics and normal human behavior.”

        I have to ask, “What rock have you been living under?”

        The Clinton’s have a potential rap sheet that that would embarrass the most hardened of criminals. There is nothing “main stream” about this opportunistic pair of power hungry money grubbers. They are also both pathological liars

        From your link we discover “20 people complained in Florida.”

        The main complainant in the case currently before the court had to withdraw because of a video recording of her gushing about the Trump courses. Trump says there are thousands of similar testimonials that are not being allowed into evidence. If there’s one, there’s more. Why are they being barred from court?

      • Pie Guevara says:

        Chris says I am WRONG!!!

        (Running around in circles naked tearing my hair out.)

        I AM WRONG! I AM WRONG! I AM WRONG! I AM WRONG! …

        Evidently Chis thinks that being within the “mainstream of American politics” is the ultimate qualifier. CHRIS HAS SPOKEN!

        This explains why approval of Congress and the president are at an all time high.

        ALLEGEDLY, tried to bribe a judge. (Hehehehehehehe.) Bribing a judge is a criminal offense, where is the indictment?

        Chris, you are so great at playing the fool. You don’t even have to “play”, it comes naturally. It IS you.

  9. Libby says:

    Rats! He has, quite uncharacteristically, backed off.

    NYT – Donald J. Trump, who said last week that a Mexican-American judge was biased against him because of his heritage, said on Tuesday that his remarks had been “misconstrued” and that he did not think that the judge’s ethnicity created a conflict of interest.

    “I do not feel that one’s heritage makes them incapable of being impartial,” Mr. Trump said in a long statement in which he continued to raise questions about his treatment in the Trump University case.

    Mr. Trump created a firestorm last week when he suggested that Judge Gonzalo P. Curiel, who was born in Indiana, was not handling his case fairly because of his immigration policies, which include deporting immigrants in the country illegally and building a wall along the southern border. The remarks were considered racist by Democrats and Republicans, several of whom distanced themselves from the presumptive Republican nominee.

    Mr. Trump said in his statement that he had many friends of Hispanic and Mexican descent and that he thought that his words had been twisted. The reversal was a rare one for Mr. Trump, who has tended to dig in after his provocative remarks have stirred controversy. However, after many Republicans started to panic about the direction of his campaign he tempered his tone toward the judge.

    “It is unfortunate that my comments have been misconstrued as a categorical attack against people of Mexican heritage,” Mr. Trump said. “I am friends with and employ thousands of people of Mexican and Hispanic descent.”

    ***

    1) If he doesn’t stop saying “some of my best friends are ….” I am gonna puke. Does no one tell him things? I mean, that is probably the most stereotypically, WASPy, expression of bigotry that ever was. Ick.

    2) And he sure do employ Hispanics, most of them here on those “I-don’t-want-to-pay-American-wage” visas that he has told you he will ban. Suckers.

    • Tina says:

      Libby can you prove that last rather nasty statement?

      • Libby says:

        http://nyti.ms/1QGI1vN

        Except it turns out he prefers Romanians. He likes their accents?

        You’re in for some rough months, I think.

        • Tina says:

          You know the answer Libby, your side provides it when they explain why the nation needs open borders and “undocumented” workers: “They’re doing the jobs that Americans won’t do.”

          Now if he was hiring people illegally…

          But an excerpt from your faux “scandalous” NYT piece:

          The visas are issued through one of a handful of legal and often debated programs through which employers can temporarily hire foreign workers when American labor is not available. As part of its applications for the visas submitted to the Labor Department, Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago attested that in the vast majority of cases, it was unable to fill the positions with American workers, or, as he told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” in September, “getting help in Palm Beach during the season is almost impossible.”

          Asked why his club must seek so many foreign workers when Americans have applied for the same positions, Mr. Trump said in a telephone interview from Mar-a-Lago this month: “The only reason they wouldn’t get a callback is that they weren’t qualified, for some reason. There are very few qualified people during the high season in the area.”

          Since his proposal is something that would impact his business, possibly negatively, what’s your problem? Oh that bad man, he puts what he thinks is best for the country ahead of himself? Scandalous!

          • Libby says:

            When he does it, I’ll take it back.

            But don’t you think it’s odd that he would propose to ban a visa he is making use of? If he truly thought it was bad for the country, he would not be, right?

  10. Tina says:

    Paul Ryan also emphatically said today that the House could work much better with Trump to get their agenda passed.

    There is a lot more to the Laureate University deal too. It will come out eventually. A woman, a teacher, called Sean Hannity this afternoon and spoke about her attempt to bring a class action suite against Laureate. She was told her course would cost somewhere in the $30K range and she ended up spending $75K. She also said it was extremely difficult to get straight answers and dealing with them was a trying experience. Hannity indicated interest in having her and others involved on his TV show. maybe Lavin’s group will take up her cause.

    Breitbart taps the Washington Post and Bloomberg in a story about Laureate Education Inc.:

    In April 2015, Bill Clinton was forced to abruptly resign from his lucrative perch as honorary chancellor of Laureate Education, a for-profit college company. The reason for Clinton’s immediate departure: Clinton Cash revealed, and Bloomberg confirmed, that Laureate funneled Bill Clinton $16.46 million over five years while Hillary Clinton’s State Dept. pumped at least $55 million to a group run by Laureate’s founder and chairman, Douglas Becker, a man with strong ties to the Clinton Global Initiative. Laureate has donated between $1 million and $5 million (donations are reported in ranges, not exact amounts) to the Clinton Foundation. Progressive billionaire George Soros is also a Laureate financial backer.

    As the Washington Post reports, “Laureate has stirred controversy throughout Latin America, where it derives two-thirds of its revenue.” During Bill Clinton’s tenure as Laureate’s chancellor, the school spent over $200 million a year on aggressive telemarketing, flashy Internet banner ads, and billboards designed to lure often unprepared students from impoverished countries to enroll in its for-profit classes. The goal: get as many students, regardless of skill level, signed up and paying tuition.
    “I meet people all the time who transfer here when they flunk out elsewhere,” agronomy student Arturo Bisono, 25, told the Post. “This has become the place you go when no one else will accept you.”

    Others, like Rio state legislator Robson Leite who led a probe into Bill Clinton’s embattled for-profit education scheme, say the company is all about extracting cash, not educating students. “They have turned education into a commodity that focuses more on profit than knowledge,” said Leite.

    Progressives have long excoriated for-profit education companies for placing profits over quality pedagogy. Still, for five years, Bill Clinton allowed his face and name to be plastered all over Laureate’s marketing materials. As Clinton Cash reported, pictures of Bill Clinton even lined the walkways at campuses like Laureate’s Bilgi University in Istanbul, Turkey. That Laureate has campuses in Turkey is odd, given that for-profit colleges are illegal there, as well as in Mexico and Chile where Laureate also operates.

    Shortly after Bill Clinton’s lucrative 2010 Laureate appointment, Hillary Clinton’s State Dept. began pumping millions of its USAID dollars to a sister nonprofit, International Youth Foundation (IYF), which is run by Laureate’s founder and chairman, Douglas Becker. Indeed, State Dept. funding skyrocketed once Bill Clinton got on the Laureate payroll, according to Bloomberg:

    A Bloomberg examination of IYF’s public filings show that in 2009, the year before Bill Clinton joined Laureate, the nonprofit received 11 grants worth $9 million from the State Department or the affiliated USAID. In 2010, the group received 14 grants worth $15.1 million. In 2011, 13 grants added up to $14.6 million. The following year, those numbers jumped: IYF received 21 grants worth $25.5 million, including a direct grant from the State Department.

    Throughout ten Democratic Party debates, Establishment Media have not asked Hillary Clinton a single question about she and her husband’s for-profit education scam. (emphasis mine)

  11. Pie Guevara says:

    Ever notice how Chris is always “right” and everybody else is “wrong?” Interesting how that works.

  12. Libby says:

    Whoa! The Donald is leashed! “Listen mister, from now til November you read sedately off the teleprompter. You do not utter a word we haven’t written for you.”

    Giggle.

  13. Tina says:

    Yes, a wise decision. Off the cuff works in New York where their “walking here” style can be summarized with a raised finger. Not cool for the leader of the nation.

    He’s still better than Jekyll and Hyde Hillary, wooden and scripted until she’s confronted with a look, question, or situation she doesn’t “allow”…then she’s a shrieking shrew who throws things!

    And who are you to deride teleprompter use. The current occupant turns into Porky Pig off tele-P! He’s even fond of the word, “folks,” as in, “B’th, b’th,b’th that’s all folks!

  14. Libby says:

    “And who are you to deride teleprompter use.”

    Are you kidding me!!! Honey, he dishes it out, he can learn to take it.

    And you too. I’ve been listening to you harp on this matter-of-no-significance for SEVEN YEARS. It would be nice if I were mature enough to refrain from rubbing your nose in it. Alas, I am not.

    Giggle.

  15. Tina says:

    “I’ve been listening to you harp on this matter-of-no-significance for SEVEN YEARS. ”

    Fitting since I had to listen to you harp about “the shrub” for the eight years! (Adult version of “You started it!)

    “It would be nice if I were mature enough to refrain from rubbing your nose in it.”

    No, that would be totally out of character.

    Looks like we’re stuck doing this dance.

    Giggle?

    More like a “Snort”

    I said long ago, though, I do like you Libby. It’s a shame you are such an intolerable liberal.

  16. Tina says:

    It’s been a long day…night all…Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

  17. Libby says:

    “Fitting since I had to listen to you harp about “the shrub” for the eight years.”

    Hardly. The Shrub fomented the destruction of Iraq and the wreck of the global economy. The Bushisms were entertaining, but will never match. The O-man has spent seven-plus years tying to clean up the mess, with no help from either the Dem or Repub Congresses … or you … with your teleprompter fixation … masking racist distress.

    Geez, where are your priorities, woman?

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published.