by Jack
This is an excerpt from an interview with a veteran city police officer. His name has been withheld for reasons that will become obvious when you read this:
PS: So, what kind of problems have you been having with our homeless?
Officer: The last time we tried to throw the homeless people off public property, and this is where camping is strictly prohibited, we ran into all kinds lf legal hurdles. Seems there are no end of free legal services willing to intervene on behalf of the homeless. Being homeless now comes with having all kinds of legal advocates and protective groups that know the letter of the law and use it against us.
A landmark case happened a while back in Fresno. This is where the city served notice on illegal campers to move and this was on city owned property. And understand this, there was mountains of trash stacking up, there was shopping carts all over the place filled with their sh–. So eventually, the Fresno cops go in and remove the homeless and then the city gets sued by some bay area law firm for illegally seizing their trash and they won! The city had to pay the homeless people for the trash the city hauled off because it was their personal property! Can you believe it?
PS: You said they had shopping carts loaded with junk, but isn’t that a crime in itself, I mean those shopping carts don’t belong to the bums, they belong to stores, right.”
Officer: This is true, but unless the cart has a placard in it that says removing this cart from the premises is considered a theft, there’s no crime. And of course the first thing the homeless do is remove the placard, so there you go.
PS What is the worst problems you’ve encountered with the homeless besides their trash?
Well, these people are bottom feeders. They sleep most of the day so they can go out at night take stuff. Recently I found a stack of bicycle parts 6 feet high at one camps and you know they are all stolen, but proving it is tough. Hardly anyone bothers to report these thefts anymore, so you rarely can connect the bikes (or parts of bikes) to a theft. People have just given up - it happens so much and there’s almost no chance of ever seeing their bike again once it is stolen.
It’s fair to see these people are into drugs, we see a lot of meth pipes, but they also get pharmaceuticals by prescription, so they abuse that and then there’s the drinking. Eventually this involves some kind of crime, petty theft mostly, or fighting or something like that. If it is serious enough we bust them then you guys get the bill for it.
PS What do you mean by we get the bill?
Officer: You have to pay for their incarceration, for the for trial and then if they get sent off to prison or county, you have to pay for their keep and it gets real expensive.
PS What can be done about the homeless camping we see all over the city, in really inappropriate places, including the parks?
My partner and I were going to hit some of these camp sites, like under certain bridges and where they have burrowed into the Oleanders or park shrubbery, but first we have to serve them notice that they will have to move.
We put them on legal notice that they will have to remove all their personal property or we’re going to haul it away. We have to out and take pictures of the notice with the homeless person standing there with the notice, and we have to tell them the city is not going to store clothing, bedding or flammables and things that present a health risk or are a fire danger. And then we have to give them 48 hours to get their sh—together and move or we will move them. And keep in mind this is city owned property and we have city codes about camping illegally, but it doesn’t matter. We still have to go through this eviction process and it takes time. If we don’t we can get sued.
PS Aren’t the homeless largely responsible for stealing from parked cars downtown and certain prime neighborhoods?
Officer: I would say yes. So, there’s that. But, this is mostly petty theft and with the limited manpower and lack of prosecution for low level misdemeanor cases, thanks to the recent changes in the law, almost all thefts are well under the felony limit. So, it’s a waste of time to investigate them. It’s gotten so bad we really don’t care about these crimes, well we care, but it’s almost pointless to even pursue them. Citizens might as well not even bother to report it, because it’s not going to be investigated.
PS My daughter had her car broken into three days ago while at work and the police department said she should fill out an online police report. But, we found an ID card left behind at the scene, so we thought that was a pretty good lead. Shouldn’t an officer have come out and taken a report.
Officer: Not really. How do you prove the ID card belonged to the person that broke into the car? It’s probably just contamination from another car burglary, but who knows? The point is nobody is going to investigate it, so it doesn’t matter. There’s just too much more important crime for us to worry about, we don’t have the time for these little offenses anymore, that’s why we have the online crime reporting.
PS Thanks for your candor. I would like to say I feel better now, knowing the truth, but I don’t. It’s really frustrating and this homeless stuff is getting totally out of hand. There’s more and more coming here every day, the city is being overrun by bums.
Officer: That’s exactly how we feel about it and yet we have all these lawyers and do-gooders coming to defend these people who are on the wrong side of the law. It makes our job a lot tougher and you citizens wind up being victimized either directly by crime or indirectly by being forced to pay for the homeless criminals once they are in the system.
Used to manage a trailer park in Oceanside, CA. Bums would build cardboard shelters up against the cyclone fence that bordered our park and Amtrak, then they’d hop the fence and burglarize the trailers. Amtrak also was sued by some of the bums for destroying their “shelters” and “damaging” their property, and the bums won!
I stayed off Amtrak property even though I had permission, but turned the water hoses on the “shelters” through the fence – accidentally, of course. Once, I even destroyed the stash of drugs that the water hose uncovered – again “accidentally.”
Amtrak was great – they even helped cut down the oleander bushes that the bums were hiding in on their property.
With no place to hide, the bums finally got the message and left our park alone, but the more “services” offered the bums, the more you’ll have infecting your city. San Diego had to put some strong ordinances in place to clean out the bums sleeping on the sidewalks. Other cities have implemented similar measures. Wake up, Chico.
And, still, yet, the impoverished burn your butt.
You still, yet, can’t think of anything but cops that might be helpful?
OK Libby. What are you doing?
You can’t either Libby. All you have is matronly finger wagging and a big nagging tongue. As other have pointed out you don’t invite them to your home and in terms of “ponying up” you don’t pay any more than anyone else and probably a lot less than some do. All you suggest is throwing more money (someone else’s) at the problem.
What burns my butt is that phony pretense of caring. What burns my butt is that haughty attitude, especially since it has been leftist thinking and attitudes that have created and facilitated this condition: 1. Setting crazy people free, 2. Glamorizing drug use, 3. Demonizing male influence in the family and society, 4. Coddling kids, 5. Having low expectations in education, 6. Demonizing faith, 7. Lack of respect for human life, 8. Adults living as perpetual teenagers and leaving their kids to basically raise themselves, 9. Lack of respect for those who work to defend us and keep us safe, 10. Making champions and victims of criminal elements, 11. Disrespect for the law, 12. Big government solutions that weaken the grit and resolve of parents and their kids…too many never learn to take care of themselves, to strive, build, and contribute.
Socialists thinking is as poison to a society, weakening it at the core, and you defend it right down to the ground.
Well said, Tina!
13. lets not forget the “crayon, coloring books, diaper safety pins and pacifiers” all in a attempt to help soothe the delicate self-delusion of the leftist spawn indoctrinated with socialism.
Life’s reality escapes them. They are not taught to strive for excellence , no they depend on the bell curve of a socialist leftist world, and to struggle for their own place in the world is a forgone concept to them.
Whine, disrupt others, cause damage and throw tantrums, that’s their mantra.
“Making champions and victims of criminal elements, …”
You mean like that perpetrator of fraud, tax evasion and sexual battery that you have elected to the Presidency?
Libby, its easy for you to say such things about Pres. elect Trump, and who knows, you might be right? But, unfortunately for the alt left, President Trump has not been found guilty of any of those allegations, much less charged with any. So until he is, don’t you owe him the presumption of innocence?
Front Page Submission (Short and sweet)
On The Bright Side
by Pie Guevara
Regarding the treatment of Vice President elect Mike Pence by the audience and the smug, condescending lecture by the cast of the Broadway musical “Hamilton” last Friday night (November 18, 2016) —
We should look on the bright side. At least the theater manners of Democrats have improved since 1895.
Crap, that should have read 1865.
I support Trump, and I believe Pence is a good man. But for him to go to a New York theater to see the Hamilton play was a very foolish thing that puts his judgement into question. Without even seeing it, which I don’t need to do, it is obviously a lefty production. The idea of re-casting our traditional American heroes as blacks, gays, lesbians, transgenders, hispanics, and so on is just a typical leftist playwright’s wet dream. Of course, the cast is going to boo him. He might have been trying to reach out to the other side, but he may as well have gone to a Black Lives Matter meeting.
I agree with Soaps. But, I’ll go a step further. It’s my opinion that no amount of trying to appease, compromise or cater to liberals, is ever going to get republicans anywhere. The fight is on, the left doesn’t want to mend fences or find ways of working together. They aren’t about healing, they want a fight and they want republicans gone. The new left is dug in and ready to do almost anything, if it would help them win more elections. They are preparing to smear republicans and conservatives as corrupt, mean, bigots and KKK lovers. They want to demonize Trump and anyone who supports Trump…. just like they did with Reagan and Bush. No allegation coming from them will be too outrageous. No act of disruption or destruction will be too loathsome or underhanded. This is a no hold bar fight and the liberals are going to do whatever it takes, lies, money, hate, race, etc. and Pence needs to wise up. He is way too nice and naive.
“Without even seeing it, which I don’t need to do, it is obviously a lefty production.”
Spoken like a Trump voter … no knowledge at all … but lot’s of prejudice.
The following express how I feel about Homelessness verse enabling it to continue. Not my words here, but easily how I feel about it.
“Helping is doing something for someone that they cannot do themselves. Enabling is doing something that they can and should do for themselves. Yes they all have stories, some of them true and some of them not. Many are good liars and choose to live the way they do because they want to.” and those able body people that choose that life style are a very real burden on today’s society, but not as much as those that enable it for political ideology.
Heh. Sometimes, the solution is right in front of you.
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And in your local news…
A semi truck hauling frozen chicken caught fire this morning on Hwy 35 in Oklahoma City.
That’s pretty much the entire story. No injuries, no one died, just a solitary truck whose brakes, and subsequently the entire semi, caught fire on the side of the highway.
The local news stations were jumping through hoops all day in order to keep us ‘up to date’ on the latest breaking news…
I was wondering why they didn’t just crash a watermelon truck into it and put up a sign “Soul Food; Cooked on site”. Whole damn thing woulda been cleaned up in no time up in OKC.
Link–
http://xenolith1964.blogspot.com/2016/10/and-in-your-local-news.html
But “I am not a racist.”
If you’re not a racist, you’re too stupid to be out on your own in public.
Obama’s legacy.
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Libby, homeless is the wrong classification for these people. These are a whole new class. They are mostly white, mostly young, mostly able bodied, they tend to be under educated, under-motivated, prone towards crime, making really bad life choices that include drugs, alcoholism and dropping out of mainstream society. They are pure takers and contribute nothing. We are forced to clean up after them, feed them, clothe them and keep them from harm, while they do nothing to help themselves and everything to make the job of caring for their safety as difficult as possible. The ACLU and liberals protect them, as if they are something special, they’re not. They deserve to get they’re butt run out of town and if they get tired of being hassled then they can clean up and get a job. That’s what they need, but your side makes that impossible.
Jack, you don’t know any of this. You’re supposing it, based on your own observations of a very small sampling.
Would you read this please:
http://buttehomelesscoc.com/reports/pit/butte_coc_2015_homeless_census_survey_report.pdf
According to this, chronic homelessness (years of it) is declining. Services are in place (for the time being), and people are moving in and out of this condition. But the numbers of people moving into and out of homelessness are rising, and will continue to rise, for lots of reasons … but “wastrel” comes into it only in the sense of neglected children. This is a society that won’t put seat belts on school buses because it’s too expensive … for pity’s sake.