by Jack
CNN- “Pipe bombs were sent to former President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, as well as to CNN’s offices in New York, sparking an intense investigation on Wednesday into whether a bomber is going after targets that have often been the subject of right-wing ire.
A law enforcement official said the three devices were similar to one found Monday at the home of George Soros, the billionaire philanthropist and liberal donor.
None of the devices harmed anyone. Law enforcement officials said they were investigating whether all the devices were sent by the same person or persons.”
UPDATE: 24 OCT, 2000 hrs. – More so-called pipe bombs have been discovered, sent to other well known democrat leaders. So far it appears to be one huge hoax, none of the bombs appears to be capable of exploding. In fact they were made from PVC plastic, not lead pipe and the contents did not resemble any known explosive substance. Also, none of the devices had the earmarks of a real bomb, such as being packed with nails, ball bearings, etc., or filled full of gun powder. Instead most were nearly empty, just packed with a few wires for looks and something taped on on the outside resembling a timing device.
If this [was] a politically motivated prank, it could land the responsible/s in a lot of trouble. It’s illegal to scare someone with a fake bomb.
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It’s far too early to tell who may have sent these devices, but looking at this through the eyes of a criminal investigator, here’s what we know for a fact and what was highly suspicious.
The first three things any good investigator takes into consideration for this type of crime is, motive, ability and opportunity. Motive- who stands to benefit the most? Well, that’s pretty obvious, any democrat running for election was just given a huge talking point and a podium. (Pictured below – a movie prop bomb)
Ability – Not really relevant at this point because making a pipe bomb is extremely easy. The information is readily available on the internet. Any idiot can make a pipe bomb. (funny video linked)
Ability 2 – Who would have the inside knowledge about the intended victim’s home addresses? For example, would a bomb building redneck in South Carolina know the home address of George Soros? How about his own address?
Now lets look at it from another angle.
Clinton and Obama are essentially political has-beens, what profits anyone on the right from harming them? If it were not for the pipe bombs they’re not headline material anymore. Soros [is] a more understandable target, if you are looking for a right-wing extremist, but what about Debbie Wasserman-Schultz? She’s the former DNC chair ousted for dirty tricks. The FBI is currently trying to determine if she was even a victim, because all we have at this is she received a suspicious package and police/FBI are there checking it out.
What we know for sure is, the packaging of the bombs is all similar. The abundance of postage on it’s package is similar. The construction of the bombs is similar. The timing of mailing is similar and the (alleged) intended victims are all notables within the democratic party, all very much connected. Same could be said for CNN. (Actual fake bomb shown on right)
We have two theories that immediately surface. Theory one, this is the work of a hate-filled, rightwing extremist, out for vengeance! Allegedly, the left and right have been divided by the hate speech coming ONLY from rightwing talk radio and FOX news. This is bringing out the kooks on the right like never before, so say the democrats!
On balance, we all know the leftwing extremists have done their fair share of violence (softball park shootings) and intimidation lately, so perhaps this is a little payback? Okay, it’s a somewhat plausible theory and it could easily establish one of the basic elements… motive.
But, it takes a fair amount of sophistication to come up with the unpublished addresses of these (alleged) victims and that doesn’t line up with the construction of crude devices that were so obvious they were detected and not one person was injured. If a suspect/s had the wherewithal to locate these confidential addresses you might think they would have done a better job at disguising these crude devices, right?
The second theory says, look at the timing. It comes suspiciously just before an election. The sympathy and media focus could only favor one side, the democrats and their candidates. At the same time it casts a dark shadow on the Trump followers and it gives the left plenty of media coverage.
This benefit would appear to be an even stronger motive than the first – revenge. Because this motive could actually sway a key election that democrats are desperate to win. In the words of Vice President Biden, “This is a big f’g deal.” CNN might be a little desperate too given their plummet in the ratings. They can sure use this publicity, what a break for them!
Would this be the first time in history that the folks on the far left have used a headline story for their own political benefit? Or better yet, where they have tried to falsely implicate republicans in some sort of scandal or criminal misdeed? No, it would not.
Remember when the Tea Party guy that allegedly spat on a black Congressman entering the Rayburn building in Washington D.C.? Never happened, as TV footage would late prove. Obama started a string of false accusations against police (an quasi icon of conservatism). Obama has been the Prince of divide of conquer whenever possible and/or plausible deniability (Bengasi). Kinda hard to keep an open mind when it comes to dirty tricks and democrats isn’t it?
Most recently we have witnessed the extreme lengths dems in Congress will go to impeach the character of Justice Kavanaugh. And lets not forget the false Russian/Trump collusion evidence used by the FBI to damage Trump’s election. Turns out it was paid for by the Hillary campaign and after 14 months of intense investigation it remains completely unsubstantiated. Again, the timing was also right before a key election. If you are suspecting that someone on the left was responsible for this, I can understand why.
Damaging the opposition days before an election is a time honored tactic of the democratic party. Now, I’m not saying this incident was a conspiracy of the dems to change an election, I’m only saying you would be foolish not to at least consider the possibility of this being a motive while looking for the suspect/s.
All being said, lets remember, its prudent to withhold our judgement until all the facts come out. However, if this case is solved, you can almost be assured it won’t be until after the Nov. election…. and that would be a very lucky break for the dems.
I suspect that none of these packages actually contained explosives.
It comes down to whether it was a mainstream Democrat, or a guy with a swastika tattoo on his forehead. I’ll give three to one odds on the Democrat.
No bet, either for Soaps or Cherokee Jack.
Hey Jack:
I tried to call you about another matter, but your phone is dead or you changed the number. Same with your e-mail.
Call me.
Soaps
“On balance, we all know the leftwing extremists have done their fair share of violence (softball park shootings) and intimidation lately, so perhaps this is a little payback?”
There’s that “Make America Great” spirit !! And let’s slit Mr. Acosta’s throat for good measure.
Talk about getting the government you deserve. Pathetic.
Psychotic.
Just like a far left liberal, no real evidence as to who or why yet, and Jacks info indicates it was pretty much a staged photo op.
Yet I knew good ol’ Liberal Lippy would jump on this faster than a bum on a ham sandwich. After all that is her areas reputation.
Wonder who and why these where sent, but it sure appears that this was intended in trying to generate sympathy for Liberals, by using their own methods of violence,confrontation and harassment.
And Jack makes a good point , I felt the same, who has all the addresses used? Could it be from another Liberal leaker like that of Shelia Jackson Lee’s staff, or even that of Feinstein’s, who’s explanation of Fords letter leak was obvious and blatantly BS .
The more we read or hear about leaks from the left. the more I think they should be rebranded the “Party of DEPENDS”
I had to stop paying attention. The speculation is, of course, rampant. Let the FBI do their jobs. It will probably be several weeks at least, long after the election, before they come up with anything solid and announce it.
“It is a troubling time, isn’t it? It’s a time of deep divisions and we have to do everything we can to bring our country together. We also have to elect candidates who will try to do the same,” said Hillary at a Florida campaign rally today.
It is ironic to see Hillary open her big fat yap after stating it was impossible for Democrats to be civil a couple weeks ago —
“You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about.”
Now that she has been a target Hillary suddenly declares we have to do everything we can to bring our country together? Huh? Saying you cannot be civil brings people together? There is no bottom to this woman’s abject hypocrisy and gall.
I wonder if she cursed, berated and treated her Secret Service agents like **** today as has been her habit. Good thing this isn’t ancient Rome. The Praetorian Guard put up with only so much.
I have to say that the same thoughts that Soaps and Cherokee Jack have posted above crossed my mind this morning. I also wouldn’t put it above Democrats disgruntled with Hillary’s and Wasserman-Schultz railroading the primary playing monkey wrench gang. Then there is always Antifa wackos.
Whatever it turns out to be, Democratic Party leaders will be playing up their victim hood after their disgusting rhetoric with calls for incivility and violence.
If turns out to be some nut-case skin head with a swastika on his forehead, perhaps he was inspired by President Obama’s, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun” and this loon decided to bring a bomb.
Limbaugh: Were Bomb Threats A ‘False Flag’ Operation?
With any luck, we will see.
I mean … REALLY pathetic.
Why can’t you face it? You’re supposed to be such a tough guy … a pragmatist. But here you are, clutching at fantastical conspiracy theories to deflect from the obvious: Trump has motivated some one or more of his loyal followers, all having an IQ in the vicinity of 40, to make a real nuisance of themselves. It was bound to happen.
Trump is supposed to be our national role model, the societal parent. Well … this is what bad parenting gets you. Right !?!
Projection, Zippy, projection. I am not “clutching” at anything you psychotic pinhead. Limbaugh makes some interesting points, I happen to make note of them and you feel threatened by them. In no way am I vainly hoping this to be the case nor endorsing his view. Sheesh, what a stupid loon you are.
From Conservative Treehouse.
“These 100% fake bombs are designed for maximum media effect not maximum casualty effect.
This is the fake bomb sent to CNN. Obviously they weren’t too concerned about it blowing up since they took the time to get up close and photograph it.
Also interesting is how the postage hasn’t been canceled… suggesting either CNN themselves made the bomb or it was dropped off by someone else. Definitely not mailed.”
Look closely at the picture Jack posted above of the package. The stamps ARE clean and not canceled.
Could be. I am thinking likely. So WHO would do that, eh? We will see.
WAY OFF TOPIC
Jack! This is a wonderful story!
XP-82 – Fate, Circumstance, & Necessity
Do a rendering of this gem of an aircraft.
More for Jack —
Planes of Fame Pacific Theater
Not off topic for me. +1 on the P-82.
The P-82 is an amazing bird developed at the pinnacle piston power. Somewhere in a dusty box I have a magazine article written by a guy who flew them in combat in Korea. Some interesting points–
It was fast. IIRC, 482 mph at max power in level flight.
In 1948, the “P” (Pursuit) designation was dropped in favor of “F” (Fighter)
The pilot is on the left. The right side is the radar operator. He also has auxiliary flight controls.
All single engine fighters must deal with torque. As the engine turns the propeller through the air, the effects of torque try to rotate the entire aircraft in the opposite direction. One of our premier fighters of WWII was the twin engine P-38 Lightning—
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_P-38_Lightning
The P-38’s engines ran in opposite rotation, cancelling out any torque, and made the plane very stable to fly. However, from the pilots view, the props spun towards the outside. This meant that if one engine was lost, the effects of torque from the engine still running would tend to rotate the opposite wing with the dead engine down. At altitude, this could be compensated for with the flight controls. On takeoff, it could be deadly if a pilot suddenly added power to the good engine. Torque could drop the opposite wing and fly him into the ground. The correct technique was to level out and slowly gain altitude.
The P-82 started out with the same rotation, but with less than satisfactory results. From wiki—
“In this arrangement both propellers would turn upward as they approached the center wing, which in theory would have allowed better single-engine control. This proved not to be the case when the aircraft refused to become airborne during its first flight attempt. After a month of work North American engineers finally discovered that rotating the propellers to meet in the center on their upward turn created sufficient drag to cancel out all lift from the center wing section, one quarter of the aircraft’s total wing surface area. The engines and propellers were then exchanged, with their rotation meeting on the downward turn, and the problem was fully solved.”
This change in rotation had another benefit. Now with the loss of one engine, the torque of the remaining engine tended to LIFT the opposite wing. This made the P-82 very stable even on one engine. In the magazine article I mentioned, the author recalls they would routinely perform four plane FORMATION maneuvers, with ALL ships having one engine deliberately shut down.
The very first U.S. aerial victories in the Korean War were scored by F-82’s in June of 1950.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-82_Twin_Mustang
^5’s RHT447. A man who knows his classic propeller driven war aircraft. P38’s were marvelous air machines once they worked out the dive dangers.
Doc and FiFi, and Rosie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncUdqT8AxY0
Notice that NOT ONE Despicable Demwit has called for an end to the threats and violence being displayed – wait for it – by the Left and antifa thugs.
And now, it’s reported that a suspicious package has been delivered to Joe Biden’s address in Delaware. It’s gotta be a fake ’cause Bumbling Biden is never THERE!
Am betting that when the perp is discovered, it’ll be someone close to George Soros or the DNC in an attempt to gain the sympathy vote – ’cause nothing else has worked!
No matter who it is, he/she will be held accountable under this administration.
The left’s attempt to make Trump responsible shows just how irresponsible they are, and have been for decades.
It won’t take long to catch the perp…don’t appear to be very bright…left all kinds of evidence.
FBI is following several leads.
My God …
“And by the way, do you see how nice I am behaving tonight?” he told the crowd in Wisconsin. “Have you ever seen this? We’re all behaving very well, and hopefully we can keep it that way. We’re going to keep it that way.”
We’re learning a new word today, people: disingenuous. This is a rather long, and very polite word for a Lying, JackAss, PoS. I mean … what a creep !
… and a very bad parental influence. I mean … this is a Dad who sits there on the sofa with beer and wing sauce all down the front of him … preaching an abstemious life to his kids. Not effective.
Poor Zippy has her panties in a bunch. All give her a great big hug. *HUGS*
Libby is longing for a real role model in the White House. How sad that Big Mama Clinton isn’t there to show us how to be good children. Her many examples of honesty, charity, and moderate temperament could have turned this angry country into the Utopia progressives yearn for.
Don’t fret, Libby; We still have thoughtful Maxine and sweet Nancy to guide us through the storm.
R U kidding or just delusional?
A. Trump was being nice as were the thousands who came to see him speak. Nothing disingenuous about that.
B. The donald’s children are all very accomplished and they love their dad.
C. YOU are a disingenuous sore loser who makes a habit of debasing anyone who disagrees with you or has a differing POV. Your entire party is exactly like you, which is why you’ve become so radical, ridiculous, and hateful.
Spot on.
WOW! An arrest has been made and it is a Native American Trumpkin. I hope it sticks. That was fast! Congrats to the FBI and law enforcement. Were I Zippy, I would be blaming the entire Seminole Nation.
:-D…yeah it’s the group that did it. Might even encompass the entire native populations of the Americas…holy cow…the caravan!!!
Join with you in your congrats to FBI/law enforcement for the excellent and swift work.
Lets all hope this is the guy and we can put a stop to this type of political harassment.
Who am I kidding the Far left liberal party and its empty headed party Favors like Maxine Waters and Eric Holder will still be stirring up people like Lippy. Diversity is not how you hold a nation together, cohesion cooperation is, but Liberals don’t seem to like or understand that basic concept.
https://start.att.net/news/read/article/the_associated_press-investigators_search_for_person_who_sent_mail_bomb-ap/category/news
Excellent points Harold.
Diversity is the enemy of unity when it is politicized and exploited as the left has done all these many years.