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This morning a man described as a “a Trump-hating antisemite who regularly complained on social media about the president and ‘the infestation’ of Jews” was arrested after killing six people (eleven according to the headline?) and injuring four cops in an attack targeting the Tree of Life Congregation Synagogue in Pittsburgh. Robert Bowers, 46, yelled: ‘All Jews must die!’ as he opened fire during a Sabbath service that included a bris ceremony that had attracted additional worshipers.
Bowers’ social media postings reveal white supremacist beliefs:
He was enraged by HIAS, the Hebrew Immigration Aid Society which helps Jewish migrants settle in the US, which he accused of bringing ‘invaders in that kill our people’.
‘I can’t sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. Screw your optics, I’m going in,’ he wrote.
President Trump called the shooting, “devastating,” and “a shame,” as he indicated it might not have happened had the synagogue had it’s own security. Both he and VP Pence called for the shooter to be given the death penalty. Trump later said this was a, “‘twisted act of malice’ that would not be tolerated.”
Hat tip: Peggy
Lippy’s boyfriend snapped. Too bad he is still alive. Now Florida will have to go through the expense of a trial and he will become as famous as O.J.
Off Topic — Why Progressive Socialism is an Ass, Reason 5,127,239
Read it and weep.
Free Speech Bows to Sharia
When he was 50, the prophet of Islam took as his wife Aisha, who was then six or seven. The marriage was consummated when Aisha was nine.
This is not a smear. It is an accurate account of authoritative Islamic scripture. (See, e.g., Sahih-Bukhari, Vol. 5, Book 58, Nos. 234–236.) Yet it can no longer safely be discussed in Europe, thanks to the extortionate threat of violence and intimidation — specifically, of jihadist terrorism and the Islamist grievance industry that slipstreams behind it. Under a ruling by the so-called European Court of Human Rights (ECHR), free speech has been supplanted by sharia blasphemy standards.
The case involves an Austrian woman (identified as “Mrs. S.” in court filings and believed to be Elisabeth Sabaditsch Wolff) who, in 2009, conducted two seminars entitled “Basic Information on Islam.” She included the account of Mohammed’s marriage to Aisha. Though this account is scripturally accurate, Mrs. S. was prosecuted on the rationale that her statements implied pedophilic tendencies on the part of the prophet. A fine (about $547) was imposed for disparaging religion.
Does anyone besides me remember Chris’ long winded and absurd defenses of Islam? This is that kind “progressive” of thinking made real and incorporated into the European judiciary. Pure insanity made to appear just. So much for freedom of speech.
To all people that think Islam is a peaceful religion I say read the Koran. It will change you mind.
People that quote peaceful sections of the Koran are not being honest about Islam. The Koran starts peaceful and gets progressively violent as you get further towards the end. The Koran itself says if there is any contradiction between statements in the Koran followers should follow the later statement.
I’ve had people claim that the Bible is very violent too (as if that is a reasonable argument). Yes, there are violent statements in the old testament; and eye of an eye, etc. . But Christianity is not based on the old Testament. The New Testament and the teachings of Jesus superceed everything in the old testament. The rule is the same as the Koran. Where there is a conflict, we are to follow what was said in the New Testament. And, Jesus was all about peace and love.
One note, the bible talks about the coming of the antichrist. I’ve often wondered who or what that will be. Sometimes I think that, maybe, the Antichrist is here and has been here for a long time and the coming refers to the coming or rising of his followers. I wonder about this because there is no one more anti-christ than Mohammed, the prophet of Islam.
We live in pretty interesting times.
Some say that Mohamed took many ideas from the Pentateuch, and distorted them. He was a warrior but needed something to attract fighters and keep them in line.
Those who study Revelations are wondering a lot these days too. Symbolism in the book of R speak to many of the antagonisms and alignments between nations today and the rising and waning of power…the rise of radical Islam and events in Israel. Never before have people had such ability to witness an event at the same time all across the globe. Technology has given us this. A mark in the forehead or hand. (Some folks are having chips embedded in their bodies) Almost everyone has a cell phone today. Technology again. Wars and rumors of wars, pestilence, earthquakes in diverse places…we have plenty of those things. It could be shaping up nicely in our time.
But we do not know the hour. All we can do is look for the signs.
Hitler and his Nazi’s were anti-Christ but Hitler was not a “religious” figure. Don’t know if that matters.
Lefties concern themselves with tolerance for others. As conservatives in America have found, the posturing is a complete sham.
Intolerance? They have no idea. Those who practice Sharia would love to introduce them.
I watched the ABC news this morning. They were attributing this attack to President Trumps anti-jewish rhetoric. I’ve heard this accusation about Trump before and it is something I don’t understand at all. I’ve never heard Trump say anything antisemitic. All I’ve heard from Trump is condemnation of antisemitic acts and attacks. Where is the connection?
Maybe this is like the news anouncer that claimed he “knew” Trump was thinking racist thoughts when Kanye West was in the Oval Office recently. Of course we all know that when Trump condemns antisemitism and racism as a whole that it is just a “dog whistle” to “his” radical base that he supports antisemitism and racism. Give me a break!
The news late yesterday and today tried to pin the synagogue shooting and the mail bomber to Trump because of his “incivility”. I’ve heard Trumps incivility. I don’t like it but none of it is antisemitic, racist, or advocating violence. Yet, the Left has been advocating violence for months now. We have heard it all: “Get in their faces”, make it so they can’t go anywhere, if they bring a knife, we bring a gun (Obama), if they go low kick them, etc. We have seen the acts of organized groups (mobs) attacking public officials while they dine or while they attend movies or plays. Do you think maybe the synagogue shooter and the pipe bomber might have taken THEIR advice?
I don’t like to blame the victim but I heard the violent things that some of the pipe bomb receipents have said and I’m sure they had an effect of the pipe bomber. With the high level targets like Clinton, Obama, Brennan, etc. it is obvious why aunt case would target them. But why Cory Booker, Maxine Waters, and especially Di Nero? Do you think maybe their behavior influenced the bomber to act? Robert Di Nero is almost rabid with his tirades against Trump with many comments about violence. Do you think maybe that was why he was targeted? Do you think maybe Maxine Waters was targeted because of her violent rants. How about Corey Booker? Most people don’t know who George Soros is, so why was he targeted. George Soros and his organizations are financial supporters of Antifa and Black Lives Matter violent demonstrations. Do you think maybe that is why this nut-case targeted them?
There is one pure evil that I see in all of this. The leaders of the Left and the Left leaning media are tying all of this type of activity to Trump not because they believe he is really responsible. They are smarter than that. They are doing this to create a divisive issue to undermine Trump and the Trump administration and to scare people into voting for Liberal candidates. They do it because they know they can manipulate their base with these lies. The end justifies the means. Pure evil!
I’m going to stop now. I don’t want to trigger any more shootings or pipe bombings because, of course, the perpatrator is not to blame, I would be to blame. GIVE ME A BREAK!
Trump is not an anti-Semite. Anyone who says he is, is a jackass.
There is one thing at work here, other than the political means and ends described by MCS.
Many Jews on the left are secular. They’re against Israel. They would prefer Israel has a left leader. Trump supports Israel under Netanyahu, so, Trump is against them…anti-Semitic.
Trumps daughter converted to the Jewish faith when she married. Trumps grandchildren are Jewish. The smear is a sham.
Anything they can use to destroy Trump and the Republicans they will.
Two thumbs up MCS!!
I can see Peggy wanting to get out in front of this one. She is second only to Tina with the Soros obsession … fed to you by Fox, Breitbart and the rest. I mean, how many times in the last couple months have you mentioned the man? Shall I go count?
You know … I hardly give the Koch brothers a second thought … probably because my media only bring the subject up, when the dudes have actually DONE something newsworthy.
Alas, Bowers’s effectiveness, as opposed to the pipe bomber’s ineffectiveness, would seem to indicate Bowers does have a functioning intellect … warped, but functioning, just like you all … who ALSO assert that you did not vote for Trump.
So, if this guy is anybody’s bud … he’s yours.
Furthermore, the chief feature in all this blather is your … and Trump … and Fox News’s … total inability to take responsibility for the consequences of your political world view.
“…Soros obsession … fed to you by Fox, Breitbart and the rest.”
Not obsession. Observation and the use of timely information. Just because your news doesn’t cover his contributions as they did the Koch brothers doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
I was first introduced to Soros about twenty five years ago by a former communist who is an avid researcher and knows of which he speaks. Soros funds a ton of hard left political organizations that pose as 501c4’s. He appears to feature himself as a puppet master out to form the world to his designs. (You won’t bother to inform yourself but others might)
“Bowers does have a functioning intellect … warped, but functioning, just like you all … who ALSO assert that you did not vote for Trump.”
I assert no such thing. I have said I didn’t support him as a first choice in the primary. Where do you get your ideas but in your own “warped” brain…the only thoughts you indulge are your own?
“…total inability to take responsibility for the consequences of your political world view.”
Like what? Which view?
An ignorant statement. How would you know? Now if you care to be more specific….
“Observation and the use of timely information.”
Please. What have you observed? You swallow what you are fed, unquestioningly.
“Like what? Which view?”
Like … just everybody is out to get you, your total paranoia, based on notions of racial superiority … which actually seem to be no comfort to you at all … and result in pipe bombings, Black shootings, Jew shootings … I shudder to think what tomorrow will bring … as the Inciter-In-Chief will NOT shut the EFF up!
Observation: Although Obama had a very large mandate and wide support, he failed to take advantage of his historic presidency. he failed to uplift the minority communities, in fact, his economic policies added to the numbers dependent on social services and food stamps.
Observation: President Trump uses inflammatory rhetoric, especially on Twitter. It’s a device to keep the talking heads busy while he accomplishes more for the American people.
You wrote: “…total inability to take responsibility for the consequences of your political world view.”
I asked, “Like what?” and “What view.”
You wrote, “everybody is out to get you, your total paranoia, based on notions of racial superiority.”
None of that has been expressed by me. None of that represents my “world view” or “policy” that I support. None of that is real except in your head, which by the way, is highly prejudiced and judgemental. You havven’t arrived at this position through an open honest assessment or debate…you react, like a well trained dog.
You wrote: “…and result in pipe bombings, Black shootings, Jew shootings.”
So let me get this straight. Things you make up in your head to explain you’re inability to get what I say and support causes vile things to happen and it’s my fault.
Wow, you really know how to connect the dots when they all exist in your head.
I have a suggestion. How about YOU “shut the EFF up,” take a break, and resolve to open your mind a bit. Develop a sense of healthy curiosity, take a look at your own prejudices and tell the truth about them.
Has it occurred to you that many who declare as conservative were once themselves liberals. Goes along with the wise old saying, “If you’re not a liberal at 20 you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at forty you have no brain.” The point being, it took an open mind and a willingness to learn to move from liberal to conservative. And you should note, liberal attitudes toward others are not abandoned they are simply put into an adult framework. For instance, the notion that gun control laws will prevent nut bags from doing vile things is an absurd fantasy. It represents thinking like a child. We have enacted reasonable gun laws. There will always be exceptions to the rules. Adults know that. They also know the best way to discourage further violence is swift penalties. The death penalty, quickly enforced, could act as a deterrent to such violence…and still nut bags will refuse to abide by the rules. Only a child thinks (wishes) he can control situations…or people.
Stuff happens. It’s unfortunate but also true. In Briton, where guns are restricted well beyond our laws, knife attacks have been on the rise:
More here, “England Knife, Gun, Rape Attacks and Homicide Continue Rapid Rise”
Re: “Like … just everybody is out to get you, your total paranoia, based on notions of racial superiority”
You really are a horrid pos Lippy. I hope you get what is coming to you with that mouth.
Libby, it is the Left that has “declared war”! It has come from the mouths of Hillary, Holder, Waters, Booker, and on and on including Obama.
Hillary said it all. The Left will continue to be uncivil until they are in power again and her justification is she has a right because she disagrees with what the current administration is doing. Disagrees! She feels the Left has a right because Trump is not doing what the Left wants. There is no such right. She only has the right to do what she can through the system. If she can’t get it done that way then she needs to convince the voters to vote the Left back in so they can. Otherwise, everything the Left does that is disruptive and violent borders on treason.
As I said, the Left started and are “fighting” this war. Is it surprising that some nutcase decides he needs to fight back.
To the Left, you “Wear the shame of the blame!”
Get out in front of what Libs? The fact that some nutcase decided to act on what what Dems have been telling him to do? To resist, hate, attack, harm and even kill?
Your party has had an open field for decades to do and say what you want without any push back from the opposing party. But, that ended when Trump became president. He pushes back and you guys don’t like it at all. You’ve all been bullies getting and taking what you want, when you want. Now there’s a big man who’s fighting back like David did to Goliath. And there’s millions of us who have suffered your party’s destruction and wrath are willing to stand alongside him.
You’re scared Libs, so you’re throwing every stone and arrow you have to stop him and us, but it won’t work. You will end up just like Goliath and deservedly so.
“… it is the Left that has “declared war”! It has come from the mouths of Hillary, Holder, Waters, Booker, and on and on including Obama.”
To back this up, you are going to need quotes, from all parties, and verifiable. Otherwise, it’s just you … making dubious claims.
Political opposition is not “declaring war” … not advocating violence of any kind. The Donald, alas, has quite the taped trove of lying accusations and incitements to his credit.
“To back this up, you are going to need quotes, from all parties, and verifiable. Otherwise, it’s just you … making dubious claims.”
CNN fails to inform you again? My Lord they are doing a pi$$ poor job.
October 9, 2018, National Review, “Hillary Clinton: ‘Civility Can Start Again’ When Democrats Take Congress”
June 24, 2018, Daily Wire, “WATCH: Maxine Waters Calls For Attacks On Members Of Trump Administration”
That’s two of them…we’ve posted most of them before. Senility or denial?
“The Donald, alas, has quite the taped trove of lying accusations and incitements”
To quote the “authority” on the subject, “…you are going to need quotes…and verifiable. Otherwise, it’s just you (and CNN)… making dubious claims.”
Holder: “when they go low, we kick them”.
Obama: “If they bring a knife, we bring a gun”
Metaphors. Obvious, clear metaphors.
Why pretend not to know things you do in fact know? I’ll never understand.
I love you Chris. You have an excuse for everything left and a lynching for everyone right. If you really are a teacher, I pity the students who are forced to suffer under schmuck such as you.
Be happy you horrid and asinine little paradigm of a leftist loon 😀
Of course Holder’s and Obama’s comments are metaphors………. to you and me……. but, maybe not to a nut-case that is just looking for a reason to snap! But you can’t pass off Clinton’s and Water’s comments as metaphors.
Here is a metaphor for Chris, “If they bring a metaphor to a knife fight, we bring a urinal cake.”
I just cannot stop laughing about Chris’ metaphor excuse for incendiary hate speech on the left. Damn, you just cannot make this stuff up! Satire is dead and unintentional comedy rules the day in this millennium. These unhinged commie zombies make my day.