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Trump: Let’s see if sanctuary cities have open arms.
No further commentary necessary. “The Five” discussion pretty much covers it all. Cheer or jeer, I leave it to you.
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Once again the democrats’ hypocrisy is on full display. They want an open door to our country, just not in their backyard. They also want renewable energies, but don’t put those ugly windmills and acres of solar panels in their communities. As long as someone else pays for their agenda of importing future voters they’re fine with it, but heaven forbid they pay for what they want themselves. Their shocked outrage is hilarious and so predictable. Trump once again shows his genius of pushing their buttons and forcing them to remove the mask to show the ugly hypocrite underneath.
I recommend the Illegals be loaded on military planes, flown to military bases in every democrats’ district, then loaded on military buses and delivered to the largest city in the districts. The money has already been made available and who’s going to stop a military bus without ending up in jail?
Remember in 2014 when residents in Calif. showed up to stop the busses full of Illegals from bringing in hundred more to their community? This is not going to end well for Newsome, Pelosi and Harris.
Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants:
“The national controversy over a surge of Central American immigrants illegally crossing the U.S. border established a new battleground this week in a Southern California small town where angry crowds thwarted detained migrants from entering their community.
In a faceoff Tuesday with three buses carrying the migrants behind screened-off windows, the demonstrators chanted “Go back home!” and “USA” and successfully forced the coaches to leave Murrieta, CNN affiliate KFMB reported.
The buses instead took the 140 or so undocumented immigrants to U.S. processing centers at least 80 miles away, in the San Diego and El Centro areas, federal officials say.”
https://www.cnn.com/2014/07/02/us/california-immigrant-transfers/index.html
Looks like a large number of Somalia refugees were resettled in certain areas during Obama’s term. The largest being Minnesota which is the area Ilhan Omar represents.
“Resettlement to the United States
Resettlement of refugees from Somalia first began in 1990. The number of Somali refugee arrivals nearly tripled between 2011 and 2014. Since 2014, Somali refugee arrivals have remained consistent at roughly 9,000 each year (Figure 2) [25]. From 2010 to 2016 (fiscal years, October 1 to September 30), more than 47,000 Somali refugees arrived in the United States, with the majority of arrivals under 45 years of age and roughly equal numbers of male and female (Figure 3) [25]. During this time, Minnesota and New York welcomed the largest numbers of Somali primary refugee arrivals, followed by Texas, Arizona, Ohio, and Washington (Figure 4) [26].
Following initial resettlement in the United States, many Somali refugees relocate to states with well-established Somali communities. Minnesota receives a significant number of secondary refugee arrivals, with the largest numbers coming from New York and Texas. From 2010 to 2016, the Minnesota Department of Health (Refugee Health Program) was notified of 3,740 secondary arrivals [17]. However, the true number of secondary Somali arrivals is likely much higher, as the state is not always notified. The majority of secondary arrivals in Minnesota settle in Hennepin, Stearns, and Kandiyohi counties, all of which have well-established Somali communities [17].”
https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/profiles/somali/populationMovements.html
Once again the democrats’ hypocrisy is on full display. They want an open door to our country, just not in their backyard.
That doesn’t even make sense. If that were true, sanctuary cities wouldn’t even exist in the first place. (How did you not anticipate that rebuttal?)
And mayors of sanctuary cities have already said that if Trump wants to drop off illegal immigrants in their cities, they’ll be glad to take them:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-wants-to-bus-migrants-to-sanctuary-cities-the-mayors-there-are-fine-with-it
(You didn’t look that up before inserting your foot in your mouth?)
You wanna talk hypocrisy while you are advocating amnesty for illegal immigrants in order to own the libs…because you’re mad at them for advocating amnesty for illegal immigrants! That is amazing to me. You’d rather transport illegal immigrants to American cities to do whatever it is you imagine they do, than transport them back across the border, and you think this is a consistent response that shows the inconsistency of your opponents. Mindless. This is the logic of a cult member who will support whatever their leader advocates, no matter how obviously stupid or hypocritical, if you think it will upset people you don’t like.
They also want renewable energies, but don’t put those ugly windmills and acres of solar panels in their communities.
This is also not true. You’re literally making this up.
I recommend the Illegals be loaded on military planes, flown to military bases in every democrats’ district, then loaded on military buses and delivered to the largest city in the districts. The money has already been made available and who’s going to stop a military bus without ending up in jail
You are talking about using human beings as tools for your political agenda, and you are going to respond to this comment by accusing me of being a mean bully for pointing out how outrageously idiotic, hypocritical, and mean your desire to do so is. I used to think you were a fundamentally good, but misinformed person. Not anymore. You’re a bad person, and any hope I ever had for you is gone. You’ve had 70+ years to become an informed and decent person, and instead you are wasting your twilight years expressing hatred for people not like you and glee over imagined suffering you think the president is inflicting on them on a blog that is read by approximately eight people.
Note that the above insults are paired with actual counter-arguments and rebuttals, unlike most of the insulting comments from the conservatives on this site directed at me and Libby, and almost certainly unlike every response that this comment will garner. That’s what earns me the right to insult you. I don’t favor using human beings as tools and dropping them off wherever I think it will hurt my enemies, and you do. If pointing that out hurts your feelings, good. Take that pain and channel it into rethinking your choices.
Another great idea from TheDonald!
Those sanctuary cities/states DESERVE all of the invading Illegal alien hordes. Let them reap the benefits of their sanctuary stupidity.
“Invading illegal alien hordes”
You misspelled “human beings,” J.
Pie is back, but what the heck did the liberals due to Mrs. Tina???
I won’t watch The Five, nor should anyone with an IQ over 70. So you’ll have to tell me what you’re calling brilliant. Is it Trump’s idea to—instead of transporting illegal immigrants back to their home countries—drop them off in places they would be safe in, under the theory that those immigrants will then go on to terrorize the populace?
Because that idea is not in any way “brilliant.” At best, it’s stupid and racist, because he’s assuming that they will go on to terrorize the populace when they would probably just get jobs. At worst, it’s attempted terrorism.
I had hoped this would be a limit for you guys. That it would finally make you realize the president’s authoritarianism, pettiness, and vengeance is outweighed only by his cartoonish buffoonery.
But Pie and Peggy actually seem to like it.
Sad.
Re: “I won’t watch The Five, nor should anyone with an IQ over 70.”
Peggy — The always brilliant Chris lets us know how stupid we are and how bright he is. Sometimes you just have to laugh.
One wonders if this puerile little boy — full of braggadocio and full of himself — ever listens to himself. He seems to have never left the 3rd grade playground.
Chris is unhappy with “The Five” no doubt because in this video they do an excellent job at exposing the abject hypocrisy of the Democrat leadership who continue to use illegal immigrants as a political tool to bash Trump with. Meanwhile, their propaganda arms in the MSM use images from OBAMA ERA DETENTION CENTERS to excoriate Trump policy, who is following the same procedures used under Obama. Where was Chris then? Well, of course, he kept his mouth shut. 😀
Pie, I no longer read what Chris writes. He chooses to not watch The Five, I chose to not read his self-aggrandising, demeaning and abusive comments. He’s always demanding we all acknowledge he’s so brilliant and we’re all so dumb for not agreeing with everything he says. If he had something constructive to contribute it’s lost because of his aggressive verbal attacks.
I agree he’s still on the 3rd grade playground and not in the real adult world. I also believe he’s sadistic and likes hurting other people. He’s on PS to hurt as many as he can and when he’s submitted a comment has a big smile on his face from the joy and satisfaction of another high. I’m not going to give him that high anymore. He can go get his jollies somewhere else. I’m done with him.
I love your fighting back at him. You really are a pro at taking him down. I hope you keep it up. He needs it and the rest of us appreciate it. He sounds like a man-child who didn’t have a father figure to show him how a grown man should behave. Thanks!
Once again, Pie has no actual argument, only insults, whereas I earn the right to use the latter by always marshaling the former.
I explained quite clearly why the Trump administration’s plan to give amnesty to illegal immigrants on the theory that they will then rape and kill liberals is far short of “brilliant,” and in fact very dumb. I explained this in a way that no one can refute, which is why you don’t even try.
So yes, the reasonable conclusion would have to be that anyone who thinks such a plan is “brilliant” is very, very dumb. I’m sorry you resent me for making that conclusion inescapable. Stop being dumb.
More like full of BS. And he continues to demonstrae that with each post.
You have never even attempted to rebut anything I’ve said with facts or logic, J. You just complain.
I won’t waste my time trying to argue with a closed mind. In your case, it’s closed, locked and bolted!
I’d wager I’m a great deal more open-minded than most here. I’ve named figures on the right I respect. You have not done the same for people on the left.
Off topic: This is HUGE!
Clinton email server administrator getting deposed:
“The first of several former Obama administration officials and former aides to Hillary Clinton is set to be deposed Thursday after a judge ruled in January that they must answer questions under oath about the 2012 Benghazi terror attacks and the Clinton email scandal.
U.S. District Court Judge Royce Lamberth ordered the discovery after a lawsuit was brought by conservative watchdog Judicial Watch, which is seeking to uncover “whether the Benghazi scandal was one reason for keeping Mrs. Clinton’s email secret.”
The conservative group announced Wednesday that Justin Cooper, a former Clinton Foundation adviser who played a role in setting up and administering the former secretary of state’s unauthorized private email server, will answer questions under oath and in-person on Thursday.
Eight other dates for depositions of former Obama officials and Clinton aides were also announced, including Jake Sullivan, a former adviser and deputy chief of staff to Clinton, who will answer questions on April 16.
Other officials do not have to give in-person testimony but are required to answer written questions under oath. Those officials include former United Nations Ambassador and national security adviser Susan Rice, and Ben Rhodes, who served as Obama’s deputy national security adviser.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/clinton-email-server-administrator-getting-deposed?fbclid=IwAR07ctsFsUiSD8A7I69Df7Iao3Vn97p6Kf5QZJO3i5aazg3KMKBkQ184bB0
A friend of mine posted this on Facebook…
The President of the United States, after declaring a National Emergency and attempting to shut down the entire southern border to stop what he called “an invasion of our Country“, reportedly gave an order to the Secretary of Homeland Security to deploy, what he called, “animals” “…bringing drugs… bringing crime. They’re rapists”“…gang members, drug dealers, thieves, robbers, criminals, and killers” ”… predators and criminal aliens who poison our communities with drugs and prey on innocent young people…they’ll take a young, beautiful girl, 16, 15, and others, and they slice them and dice them with a knife, because they want them to go through excruciating pain before they die,” against American citizens, because of their political opposition to him.
What is the counter-argument to this? There is none. This suggestion literally does not make sense unless the Trump administration believes that illegal immigrants are violent criminals who would terrorize the populace…which is the official position of the Trump administration. And, of course, if the administration has the resources to drop these people off in San Fran, they have the resources to take them back home. So the goal here was to violate the law and let people they believed to be violent criminals run rampant…to own the libs.
How are any of you ok with that?
Chris, President Trump asserts and you object to, that some illegal aliens coming across the Southern border are rapists, gang members, drug dealers, thieves, robbers, criminals and killers. Now we know for a fact that Mexican females being smuggled into America are often brutally raped by the very people (cartel members) doing the smuggling. We also know for a fact that Mexico has an inordinately high violent crime rate, i.e. gangs, thieves, robbers and killers, much higher per capita than in US and some Mexican cities rank highest in the world for murders per capita. We also know from our own newspapers and other media news reports that every year a number of illegal aliens commit horrific crimes here.
So it seems the question is, not whether these things occur, because there is ample evidence to prove they do, but rather what number would satisfy you that we DON’T have a problem on the border and Trump is totally wrong?
I’m not really in a position to analyze the nations crime statistics involving an illegal or even to know if an accurate count of such data exists, but perhaps you could put a number on what is okay in your opinion, what are acceptable crime numbers to you. You can focus on just on crime if you wish and tell us what is your acceptable number. For example, is under 500 homicides per year committed by illegals an acceptable number for you? How about under a 1000 rapes, is that acceptable? Is 5000 hardened gang members entering the US per year okay? Just pick something important so we can discuss.
This would go a long way to helping us understand why you see no crime problem coming from our southern border, only refugees from crime that wish to become good American citizens.
This might be a bit too deep for Chris to grasp.
Jack, that is not a response to what I wrote, and you’re asking me to answer your questions when you have not answered the ones I asked in that comment.
If I had no issue with Trump’s statements on immigration at all, and if I agreed with him that the majority of illegal immigrants were dangerous criminals or drains on society, wouldn’t that make me MORE opposed to the amnesty plan that is the discussion of this post? After all, if I believed that, I’d have to believe that the president is INTENTIONALLY making American cities less safe in order to hurt citizens who disagree with him politically. I’ll answer your questions, but you should answer mine: How are you OK with this?
“Chris, President Trump asserts and you object to, that some illegal aliens coming across the Southern border are rapists, gang members, drug dealers, thieves, robbers, criminals and killer”
No, I object to his assertion that *most* illegal aliens fit that description (that’s what “some are good people” means) and that this justifies hurting all illegal immigrants. And again, you’re missing the point. How does the family separation policy reduce the threat of illegal gang members and criminals? It didn’t do that at all. It was just needless cruelty. How does the policy under discussion in this post make us more sage? The intent is clearly to make us LESS safe. How did reducing the number of immigration judges or closing legal ports of entry make us more safe? It didn’t.
I’ve said before that a more open immigration policy would make it easier to track who is here and focus on stopping true threats, rather than wasting time and resources arresting and deporting families and people who want to work. I stand by that.
Sorry, Chris. The “animals” quote from TheDonald referred to the gangs of MS-13, was taken outta context and spread by the media presstitutes.
Congratulations! You and your FakeBook friend have officially joined those same media presstitutes.
No.
First, I didn’t mention the “animals” comment, so it’s weird you bring that up.
Second, now that you do bring it up, it wasn’t about MS-13. It was about people my sheriff, Margaret Mims, said she *suspected,* but couldn’t prove, were MS-13. Trump’s rant in response to her complaint about such people made it clear: just treat those people like animals. Don’t worry about any DOJ investigation if you do violate the civil rights of those people, because my administration does not even consider them people.
The context actually makes his comment worse.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-california-sanctuary-state-roundtable/
From American Thinker:
Remember Murietta? Dumping unvetted migrants into the cities of political foes was done by Obama first
By Monica Showalter
President Trump’s trial balloon of sending migrants surging across our border to sanctuary cities has been derided by Democrats as ‘cynicism and cruelty’ as well as ‘a new low’ by Trump, but it has a precedent: President Obama.
Back in 2014, when the migrant surge of that year brought tens of thousands of “unaccompanied children” and “moms and kids,” into the Rio Grande Valley, overwhelming the Texas processing facilities, President Obama inexplicably targeted small- and mid-sized cities (same as the Trump officials’ emails) as their next destination of choice. And instead of talking about it, they really did try to bus the unvetted migrants into small cities such as Murietta, California, Yuma, Arizona, and a conservative area of New Mexico, bringing crime, disease, and a high need for social services. without consulting those communities.
The residents protested, and the Obama administration declared them ‘racist’ in a bid to scare them into line.
I was on the ground at Murietta during those protests when I was an editorial writer at Investor’s Business Daily, and spoke to the citizens of that city, who were not only far from racist, they were actually multiracial themselves. They told me this:
Asked why the rebellion was centered in Murrieta and not elsewhere, the residents all had one answer: they were Reagan Country, and it was on their soil that the Reagan revolution was lit in 1978.
Breitbart’s reporters went to the scene, too, as I did, and quite unlike the mainstream media, also asked and listened to the residents as what they thought was going on:
Henry, and many of the protesters joining him, believe their town was unfairly targeted as a destination for the migrants. Some believe the busloads are being sent to small, largely conservative towns, like Murrieta to send a political message.
“The administration thinks that if it floods our streets, in small town america, they can force us into immigration reform,” Henry said. “These immigrants should not be here. The only reason that they are coming here is for political reasons.”
continued..
https://am1.news/context/topic/remember-murietta-dumping-unvetted-migrants-into-the-cities-of-political-foes-was-done-by-obama-first
There is absolutely zero evidence that Obama sent those migrants there to punish people who disagreed with him politically. But American Thinker doesn’t need evidence. It also thinks such an evidence-free accusation against Obama somehow makes Obama look worse than Trump, despite Trump’s *open admission* that he wants to do this to punish his political enemies.
And you believe them.
Thank you for proving that the insulting things I say about your intelligence and character are, far from being abusive, factually true.
Sometimes you just have to laugh. Chris spends 99% of his time in these pages insulting others and then whines when I turn it around on him. That is Chris for you. A school yard brat with Mommy issues. If his past patterns of behavior are any indicator — and there is no reason to think they are not — he will soon be whining to Jack and Tina.
“I explained quite clearly why the Trump administration’s plan to give amnesty to illegal immigrants on the theory that they will then rape and kill liberals is far short of “brilliant,” and in fact very dumb.”
Chris’ take is, of course, completely asinine and really not worthy of bothering to deconstruct. The nonsense Chris is selling reasonable people are not buying. Again, that is Chris for you. Trump is brilliant because he exposes the abject hypocrisy of Chris and his ilk, period. It is really quite as simple and plain to see as that. No nuance here. And it is hilarious to watch Chris and Democrats twist into intellectually bankrupt knots of hypocrisy trying to scramble for cover. Their reaction has been definitely a winning formula for 2020! Trump put them there. Brilliant. He threatens to give them exactly what they want and now they do not want it. I can’t stop laughing.
I wonder, is it because Chris and Democrats are racists? They offer sanctuary but when confronted with the opportunity to put their money (er, OUR money) where their mouths are suddenly they do not want to take on the hordes of brown people that have been overwhelming border facilities and the courts. Suddenly all these illegal alien brown people are inconvenient to Chris and Democrats.
No doubt Chris has no problem being a completely hypocritical jerk on this issue. He always has been one.
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He threatens to give them exactly what they want and now they do not want it. I can’t stop laughing.
I wonder, is it because Chris and Democrats are racists? They offer sanctuary but when confronted with the opportunity to put their money (er, OUR money) where their mouths are suddenly they do not want to take on the hordes of brown people that have been overwhelming border facilities and the courts. Suddenly all these illegal alien brown people are inconvenient to Chris and Democrats.
You are literally, brazenly, lying. I have already told you that the mayors of those sanctuary cities have said that if Trump wants to bus illegal immigrants to their cities, those immigrants will be welcome. You could confirm this for yourself quite easily.
The liberal complaint is not that illegal immigrants will come to their cities. If that were the complaint, they wouldn’t have sanctuary cities in the first place! The complaint is entirely about Trump’s bigoted and hateful *motivation.* Again, he (wrongly) thinks these people are rapists and murderers. And he thinks bussing them to these cities is a punishment against people for voting against him. That is horrific.
And it shows that Trump is the hypocrite: he has justified his gross abuse of immigrants under the auspices of “rule of law,” but he is advocating breaking the very laws he previously claimed were sacrosanct by transporting illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities instead of back to their home countries! That you think this somehow exposes the left’s hypocrisy is pure partisan idiocy. You can’t think. Your rebuttal is abjectly, objectively terrible. Take a seventh grade debate class.
Quentin Colgan’s Ghost Wrote “You are literally, brazenly, lying.”
Nope. I am referring to the meltdown at the federal level (Pelosi a perfect example), the meltdown in the liberal media elite (er, Democrat propaganda elite) and the meltdown of “liberals” I follow in social media and blogs.
The propaganda arms of the Democrats (i.e. most of the MSM) spent the day of Trump’s announcement hysterically denouncing it. I find this very humorous. Of course, you do not, so you call me a liar, you infantile twit from progressive fascist hell. (To anyone else reading this comment, Quentin Colgan’s Specter calling people with whom he disagrees “liars” is standard practice.)
In any case, it is true, some mayors have said they will welcome said illegals. I have to wonder what their constituents will say if and when those cities are impacted with thousands of uneducated, unskilled, illegal poor depending upon social services to survive. When citizens of sanctuary cities have to take the brunt of “welcoming” 100’s of thousands, some citizen residents may have a change of heart.
Lastly, Quentin’s Shade, if you bothered to watch the video (which of course you did not because you are a cowardly, self-insulated ass) you might have noted that it was brought up that it actually may be illegal for Trump to enact such a plan. Trump’s threat is brilliant because he does not even have to follow through, the left will self destruct over the issue of hordes of illegal aliens flooding this country under their own power.
Democrats have worked to foil Trump’s promise of immigration reform at every step. No matter how many rapes, murders, and other crimes are committed by illegal non-citizens, you and your cohorts think illegals deserve more rights and more compassion than Americans citizens. Run with that! It is a sure winner!
I believe that ultimately you will pay for this lunacy and I will continue to laugh at you arrogant, witless, progressive poltroons.
Pie:
Nope. I am referring to the meltdown at the federal level (Pelosi a perfect example), the meltdown in the liberal media elite (er, Democrat propaganda elite) and the meltdown of “liberals” I follow in social media and blogs.
The propaganda arms of the Democrats (i.e. most of the MSM) spent the day of Trump’s announcement hysterically denouncing it.
As I explained quite clearly, you were and still are lying about *why* they are denouncing it. You keep claiming that the left is freaking out over the prospect of having a ton of illegal immigrants in their cities. That is not happening. You are making it up. Here’s what I wrote:
The liberal complaint is not that illegal immigrants will come to their cities. If that were the complaint, they wouldn’t have sanctuary cities in the first place! The complaint is entirely about Trump’s bigoted and hateful *motivation.* Again, he (wrongly) thinks these people are rapists and murderers. And he thinks bussing them to these cities is a punishment against people for voting against him. That is horrific.
You are so clouded by hate that it is literally rendering you unable to read.
Lastly, Quentin’s Shade, if you bothered to watch the video (which of course you did not because you are a cowardly, self-insulated ass) you might have noted that it was brought up that it actually may be illegal for Trump to enact such a plan.
Of course such a plan is illegal. You needed to watch The Five in order to figure that out?
Trump’s threat is brilliant because he does not even have to follow through, the left will self destruct over the issue of hordes of illegal aliens flooding this country under their own power.
Again, that’s not what they’re “self-destructing” over, if “self-destructing” means “condemning an awful and illegal plan.” What we’re condemning is the president using people as tools in order to—in his view!—inflict terror on communities he disagrees with politically. I don’t know how many times I need to explain this to you.
That you think criticizing this somehow reflects badly on *the left* is indefensible partisan hackery. Bias has broken your brain. You think the president is “brilliant” for proposing an illegal and inhumane plan because liberals are criticizing it. What’s wrong with you?
So after three days and multiple inquiries on my part to see if anybody could defend Trump’s illegal and vengeful plan to drop off “murderers and rapists” in communities that voted against him rather than back to their home countries, the only two who have even tried to marshall a defense are Pie and Peggy, and their defenses amount to “It’s good because it triggers the libs” and “Obama did it too” (even though those were refugees, not illegal immigrants, and there’s no evidence of political motive in that event), respectively.
Amazing.
This is why I say you have no principles. It is incredibly ironic that these two posters have spent the past week accusing me of “hatefulness” and “wanting to hurt people” while at the same time they are attempting to defend a policy that is entirely motivated by hatred and the desire to hurt their political opponents.
From a friend.
So glad she’s safe and unharmed.
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11 YR OLD SHOOTS ILLEGALS
BUTTE , MONTANA Shotgun preteen vs. Illegal alien Home Invaders…Two illegal aliens, Ralphel Resindez, 23, and Enrico Garza, 26, probably believed they would easily overpower home-alone 11-year-old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two-story home. It seems the two crooks never learned two things: they were in Montana and Patricia had been a clay-shooting champion since she was nine.Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father’s room and grabbed his 12-gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun. Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast of buckshot from the 11-year-old’s knee-crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals.When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the …street where he bled to death before medical help could arrive. It was found out later that Resindez was armed with a stolen 45-caliber handgun he took from another home invasion robbery. That victim, 50-year-old David 0’Burien, was not so lucky. He died from stab wounds to the chest.Ever wonder why good stuff never makes NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, or ABC news……..?
An 11 year old girl, properly trained, defended her home, and herself……against two murderous, illegal immigrants…….and she wins. She is still alive. Now THAT is Gun Control!
Thought for the day…. Calling an illegal alien an ‘undocumented immigrant’ is like calling a drug dealer an ‘unlicensed pharmacist.’I like this kind of e-mail! American citizens defending themselves and their homes. Yes, guns in the hands of the law abiding save lives!
Fake news, Peggy.
When asked about the authenticity of the events described in this story, Butte-Silver Bow Sheriff John Walsh told The Montana Standard that his office never investigated such an incident.
“This never happened,” Walsh said.
The story claims the girl shot and killed the two intruders while she was home alone. The story doesn’t provide a street address or attribute the information to any official sources.
Walsh brushed off the story as an urban myth.
“It’s amazing how these things get around,” he said.
https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/fake-story-still-circulating-online/article_3a5ab3d5-0681-5ef1-bd92-9ab7d6b8538a.html
https://www.cleveland.com/morris/index.ssf/2013/01/the_sensational_gun_story_abou.html
https://www.truthorfiction.com/butte-invasion/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/home-invasion-thwarted/
You “like this kind of email” because it confirms your biases. Whether or not it was true didn’t even occur to you.
This is so ridiculous I am surprised I am going to bother to answer such nonsense. But here I go…
“Here is what I wrote:” Sorry Chris, but I do not bother responding to every bit of drivel that you write.
“You keep claiming that the left is freaking out over the prospect of having a ton of illegal immigrants in their cities.”
That is what I observed in the MSM and in leftist social media and blogs. Many were hysterical over Trump’s proposal. What part of that do you not understand? Trump threatens to give the left exactly what they want and Pelosi gets upset. The notion that Trump is using illegal aliens as political “tools” pretty funny coming from you and Democrats since that is PRECISELY what you do. The irony is so thick you can cut it with a knife you disingenuous fraud.
“You are so clouded by hate that it is literally rendering you unable to read.” WOW! Could you be more of a presumptive ass? Chris telling me who I am and what I think. Hilarious. This is what passes for “debate” with Chris. The guy is a ridiculous, puerile clown.
“Of course such a plan is illegal.” That remains to be seen. Trump, if he follows through, would be giving you exactly what you want. Why would on earth would Democrats and progressive “angels” like you want to challenge it in court? Because, while you claim to have open arms, you really do not? Are you really closet racists using illegal alien brown people as political tools to further your own agenda and ambition for political power? (No need to answer, chump, those were rhetorical questions.) Lastly, do you EVER listen to yourself?
“What we’re condemning is the president using people as tools… I don’t know how many times I need to explain this to you.” See above. I love the truly hilarious arrogant bit “I don’t know how many times I need to explain this to you.” Chris has spoken, all bow!
“Bias has broken your brain.” Boilerplate Chris “debate.” If you are not a bigot, racist, sexist, xenophobe, LGBTetc hater, ad naseam, then you are biased if you disagree with this absolutist, progressive fascist clown who thinks what he writes is pure gold.
Bottom line, Chris is a troll who, when not blinded by his own biases and laughable self-aggrandizing arrogance, makes up for it by violating every logical fallacy mankind can construct. Please note Chris never links to his own blog. If he does have his own blog I can just imagine all the Post Scripts fans rushing to follow it. Chris is a progressive poltroon who hides behind a relative anonymity courtesy of the blog he loves to excoriate with his hate-filled, diseased and turbulent mind. Jack and Tina (and now I, thanks to their graciousness) allow him to flail away unhindered. No thanks necessary, Chris. You do Quentin Colgan’s memory proud.
That is what I observed in the MSM and in leftist social media and blogs. Many were hysterical over Trump’s proposal.
Yes, because Trump’s proposal is based on his inaccurate belief that illegal immigrants are mostly rapists, murderers, and drains on society, and he wishes to inflict them on sanctuary cities in order to punish people who disagree with him politically.
Believing this is wrong does not, in any way, imply that illegal immigrants are not actually welcome in sanctuary cities. If that were true, sanctuary cities would not exist.
I could not make this any clearer. I don’t know if you are truly too stupid to understand the very basic nuance of this argument, or if you are just pretending not to. Regardless, this is the last time I will explain it.
If you had any evidence of your original claim that leftists were freaking out about this proposal because they genuinely do not want illegal immigrants in their cities, you would have presented it by now. You cannot do that, because there is no such evidence. That is why your original claim is a lie.
Trump, if he follows through, would be giving you exactly what you want
No. What we want is for people to be able to move freely as much as feasibly possible. We want immigrants to be able to come here and make lives for themselves without much government interference.
That you interpret that as wanting the government to bus illegal immigrants en masse into certain cities against their will…I don’t know what to say to that. You clearly do not see these immigrants as people with free will, just a mindless “hoarde” for the government to do with as it pleases. And you call yourself a conservative. For shame.
Re: “Yes, because Trump’s proposal is based on his inaccurate belief that illegal immigrants are mostly rapists, murderers, and drains on society”
Now, who is the liar? 😀 That statement is so ridiculous, asinine and contrary to reality as to be astounding. Good job!
“What we want is for people to be able to move freely as much as feasibly possible. We want immigrants to be able to come here and make lives for themselves without much government interference.”
Yep, open borders is what you are all about. Thanks for making that perfectly clear. It is has been pretty obvious you care more for illegal aliens than your own country and countrymen in your comments to this blog, but at least now you are being dead honest instead of serving up the pathetic and fraudulent duplicity that usually typifies your remarks.
And all this , ultimately, just to get illegal alien votes when they legitimately (given amnesty) or illegitimately register to vote.
“You clearly do not see these immigrants as people with free will, just a mindless “hoarde” for the government to do with as it pleases.”
WOW! When Chris lays on the ridiculous bullsh*t he doesn’t fool around. The horde (oops I previously had a typo, horrid me) is far from “mindless”, they have been trained to work the system and are quite adept con artists at claiming sanctuary and dragging innocent children along with them to gain entry. This is how cheap life — especially the lives of children — is to Chris and the migrants. They have no problem subjecting an innocent child to all kinds of dangers and travails — even rape and death — to come here illegally or/and scam the sanctuary system. Wonderful people, Chris and his heroic migrants.
As a result, border facilities and the courts have been completely overwhelmed and 100,000 illegals are now crossing the border a month. Hey, no crisis here. Move along folks, nothing to see.
Now, who is the liar? That statement is so ridiculous, asinine and contrary to reality as to be astounding. Good job!
It is based entirely on Trump’s public statements about illegal immigrants for years, going back to his announcement of his presidential run. “When Mexico sends its people, they aren’t sending their best. They’re sending their murderers, their rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
And, of course, if Trump does not believe as I have described above—if he does not believe they are mostly criminals and drains on society—than his proposal to bus illegal immigrants to cities he doesn’t like doesn’t even make sense. The entire logic of it is that he believes they will make those cities worse. Otherwise, why do it?
Yep, open borders is what you are all about.
More open than they are now, certainly.
And all this , ultimately, just to get illegal alien votes
A lie, and projection. Unlike you, I actually have principles. I believe in freedom of movement. You do not have any sincere beliefs that you would not sacrifice on the altar of President Wind Noise Causes Cancer, so you must believe that I am as cynical and devoid of genuine belief as you.
WOW! When Chris lays on the ridiculous bullsh*t he doesn’t fool around. The horde (oops I previously had a typo, horrid me) is far from “mindless”, they have been trained to work the system and are quite adept con artists at claiming sanctuary and dragging innocent children along with them to gain entry.
Remember 24 hours ago, when you were complaining about being called a racist? Do you not see the hypocrisy in such a complaint when you have spent the last week spreading racist stereotypes like the above?
<i?This is how cheap life — especially the lives of children — is to Chris and the migrants. They have no problem subjecting an innocent child to all kinds of dangers and travails — even rape and death — to come here illegally or/and scam the sanctuary system. Wonderful people, Chris and his heroic migrants.
Again, if we had a more open border, families would not feel the need to sneak their children across, and the problems associated with tracking you describe would occur far less. And if you actually cared about these children, you’d object to the Trump administration’s treatment of them. It will take years to reunite all of them with their parents…and you say nothing.
As a result, border facilities and the courts have been completely overwhelmed and 100,000 illegals are now crossing the border a month. Hey, no crisis here. Move along folks, nothing to see.
It is a humanitarian crisis, and Trump has made it worse. Part of the reason the system is as overwhelmed as it is is that Trump has sabotaged the system. He has deliberately closed legal ports of entry and is now even proposing cutting aid to the countries that are seeing the most migrants leave, which would only cause more migrants to leave. The idiocy and inhumanity of this administration will long be remembered, and people like you who looked the other way and blamed those actually trying to make our immigration system work will be remembered badly.
Pie wins, hands down!
The debate expert has logged on.
Pie, one last appeal.
I notice based on your Twitter that you seem to be a fan of Jonah Goldberg. I like him, too, though we often disagree.
Since you won’t listen to me or anyone on the left when it comes to the Trump proposal you call “brilliant,” maybe you’ll listen to Jonah Goldberg.
This is what Jonah Goldberg has to say about this proposal:
“I think this may be one of the single most asinine moments in modern American politics…”
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/15/713387952/politics-in-the-news-sanctuary-cities
The whole interview is worth reading. Goldberg’s position is pretty similar to mine—he even characterizes Trump’s description of immigrants in almost exactly the way I did above, saying that Trump misrepresents them as “ a bunch of predatory, dangerous criminals that are just massing on the border to invade the country…there’s no data that suggests that that’s what these people really are, right?”
That’s almost exactly what I said about how Trump characterizes illegal immigrants, but when I said it, you called me a “liar” whose statement was “asinine, ridiculous, and contrary to reality.” But Goldberg, a conservative Republican whose views on immigration are very different from my own, has taken the exact same interpretation of Trump’s words. So how can we both be removed from reality in the exact same way?
He also points out that if such a proposal were announced, it would backfire on Trump by attracting more illegal immigrants. He seems to agree with you that this is just trolling on Trump’s part, not a serious proposal, but unlike you, he sees such trolling as a bad use of the president’s time and as damaging to the office.
How is Goldberg wrong here? And what makes his position on Trump’s proposal any different or more worthy of respect than mine?
Re The Silly Troll-Brat: “Pie, one last appeal.”
Sheesh, Chris, are you obsessive/compulsive and desperate for my attention or what? Were it not that you were such a nasty little creep I would feel sorry for you. Yes, I follow Jonah Goldberg and he follows me. In a remote sense, we are Twitter pals, but I would certainly not hold him to that. (By the way, who follows YOU?)
I respect Jonah. He is a brilliant and sincere commentator, journalist and author. (Contrast that to you, an inept, infantile, nobody. A hateful, hate-filled, purple faced troll with Mommy issues.) I have read and enjoyed “The Tyranny of Clishes”, “Liberal Fascism” and “Suicide of the West.” Three books I would recommend to you if I did not know that you are an angry and pathetic progressive nitwit afraid (if not incapable) of self-examination and open mindedness.
I respect and cherish Mr. Goldberg, but do not always agree with him. While I am no Trump fan, he probably hates Trump more than you do. Trump has brought the illegal alien invasion to a sharp focus with his threat and it is my humble opinion that Democrats and the left will be hoisted by their own petard. Evidently you don’t like that. No kidding. Surprise, surprise!
The claim that Trump characterizes illegal aliens as a bunch of blah, blah, blah is total bullsh*t. He has many times said that many and most such people are, no doubt, good people. You simply shut your ears to that because it is convenient to your twisted world view and political agenda. Sieg Chris!
By the way Chris, as I have noted many times, you have a compulsive habit of calling people liars when they disagree with you. Are you at all aware how juvenile and pathetic that is? Of course you must know it is insulting and mean spirited, which is why you do it, but no doubt you are completely unaware of how foolish and puerile it makes you look. Please, NEVER GET A CLUE! You are your own worst enemy and I hope you keep it up. Heck, I know you will keep it up, you have no self control whatsoever and are locked into a dysfunctional juvenile behavior pattern. If you are not a full blown sociopath like the Quentin Colgan was, you are at least borderline.
Moreover, when I throw it back in your face, you whine. You get no respect from me because you deserve none. All you are to me — and likely to just about everyone who frequents Post Scripts — is a raging, extreme left wing, hyper-partisan progressive ass.
So, I hope this last comment from me to you on this matter lets you know where you can stuff your “last appeal.”
Well, would you look at that. You are followed by not only Jonah Goldberg, but John Podheretz as well. Sincere congratulations. Though I don’t think either of them would much care for your behavior here. (Well, maybe J Pod. He can get nasty sometimes.)
But asking who follows me is just juvenile.
The claim that Trump characterizes illegal aliens as a bunch of blah, blah, blah is total bullsh*t.
Ok. You’re avoiding the question. Is Jonah Goldberg a “liar” for saying that Trump characterizes illegal immigrants in such a fashion? Because, if he is not, then you should apologize for calling me a liar for making the same statement as Goldberg.
He has many times said that many and most such people are, no doubt, good people.
Please cite where he has said “most” illegal aliens are good people.
By the way Chris, as I have noted many times, you have a compulsive habit of calling people liars when they disagree with you.
You…you literally just did that. You called me a “liar” for…expressing the same exact position on Trump’s characterization of illegal immigrants as Jonah Goldberg. And you won’t say whether he is a liar too, because you can’t reconcile that contradiction, so you just rant and rave.
And even MORE brilliance! Andrew McCarthy does it again!!!!
https://nypost.com/2019/04/15/behind-the-obama-administrations-shady-plan-to-spy-on-the-trump-campaign/