by Jack
When Sen. Kamala Harris first ran for CA office I had very, very, low expectations. I was not disappointed. She’s quite possibly the worst candidate for president in American history. Here’s an example why I say that:
Yesterday, she was on the campaign trail trying to stir up the black voters in hopes of getting her failing campaign some traction. So, she took a dive and tried to label the police officer shooting in Ferguson Mo., as a murder. Oh, it was a police shooting alright and after Obama sent in the FBI to investigate, they had to conclude it was justified. The Dept. of Justice, the Ferguson Police, the FBI and the results of 4 autopsies and dozens of eye witnesses all led to the same conclusion. Officer innocent – suspect guilty. Not only that but there was never, “hands up – don’t shoot” said, that was a total lie started by the suspect’s friend.
Surely you remember that the suspect had just committed a felony (robbery) and he attacked the 1st police officer that came in contact with him. It could not be more clear, the officer fired in self defense! But, Sen. Kamala Harris is willing to lie and distort this incident even if it causes damage to the police and hurts race relations. She sold out the truth for a pollical score and she really thinks black people will buy into her big lie. She must have an even lower opinion of them, than I do of her!
In yet another Harris lie, CNN reported on Monday, that Sen. Kamala Harris claimed President Donald Trump has failed to deliver on his promises to workers. And she issued a dire warning about autoworkers’ jobs in particular.
“He said he was going to help working people, and it is estimated that as many as 300,000 autoworkers may be out of a job before the end of the year,” she said aboard her campaign bus in Iowa.
That was a more conservative figure than Harris used July 12 on the radio show “The Breakfast Club,” during which she said, “He’s helped the top 1% and the biggest corporations. Meanwhile, some estimate that as many as 700,000 autoworkers were going to lose their job before the end of the year.”
Both figures are incorrect.
Facts First: There is no credible estimate that 300,000 autoworkers might lose their jobs by the end of the year. And there has been an increase in autoworker jobs during the Trump presidency, though there has been a slight decrease over the past year.
Kamala Harris is a rabid, bomb tossing, commie, race-baiter and opportunist who should never be trusted and never hold any sort of office. She will lie and promise anything to meet her objectives. (To our resident liberals, please feel free to call Trump names now, but she is still a rotten liar.)
She’s quite possibly the worst candidate for president in American history.
Come on. Despite her flaws, she is far more qualified and honest than the current occupant of the White House. I agree with many of your critiques of her in this article, but this…hysteria detracts from the good arguments.
I too am saddened and angry that so many of the Democratic candidates have embraced the idea that Michael Brown was “murdered.” The evidence to me indicates that the shooting was justified, as Eric Holder’s DOJ determined. I do think resentment over the handling of the grand jury case and the lack of an indictment that would have allowed this matter to be settled in a real criminal trial, plus the DOJ’s findings that Ferguson was indeed a cesspool of racist abuse by the police, have a lot to do with Democrats assuming that Brown’s killing was like so many others we have seen over the past decade. But it wasn’t, and Brown is not a good representation of the Black Lives Matter cause. There are so many others like Tamir Rice, Eric Garner, Philando Castile, etc. that we could talk about instead where the police clearly acted too rashly. Brown distracts from those genuinely awful incidents and weakens our case about systemic mistreatment of African-Americans by the police.
But if we’re talking about lies that increase racial divisions, Trump still has Kamala beat by a lot. There was his lie about thousands of Muslims cheering 9/11 in New Jersey. There was his repeated assertions that the Central Park 5 were guilty after they were exonerated. There were his birther lies about our first black president. There are his lies about immigrants being primary drivers of crime. There are his lies about four congresswomen of color “hating America” because they disagree with him. And then there are more generalized racist statements that aren’t necessarily lies, such as his claim that “Jeb Bush has to like illegals because his wife is Mexican,” and his claim that Judge Curiel would be too biased to hear a case against him about Trump University because he’s Mexican.
It seems like if you’re weighing all that against Kamala’s lie about Michael Brown and finding Kamala worse, than you think that one lie about minorities being targeted is worse than a lot of lies that target minorities. Again, both are bad, but the sheer volume of Trump’s lies, and the way in which they target and scapegoat minority communities, make him worse.
Again, this does not excuse Kamala. She is not my preferred candidate for a number of reasons. But you invited the comparison to Trump when you called her the worst candidate ever, and in your reluctance to criticize Trump’s racist lies.
Thank you for linking to the CNN fact check about autoworkers.
“commie”
No.
Chris, the term commie is just a euphemism for what I would like to say, but I am restrained by civility. I would not take to literally.
Calling people who are in no way communist “Commie” is civil? Well, we have different standards.
Chlamydia Harris–aka Senator Knee Pads.
Classy as always.
Then they wonder why they can’t get a girlfriend … and go shoot up a WalMart. Ah … men.
“Then they wonder why they can’t get a girlfriend … and go shoot up a WalMart. Ah … men.” Libby
Once again you are so right on Libby! Why just the other day while I and a few of the local boys were busily laying siege with our assault rifles to another Walmart, I asked, “I wonder why we can’t get any dates in this town?” To which he replied, “Gee I dunno, uh, ya got any more of that thar ammo?” Now you’ve solved that mystery for us!
Libby your insight and vast knowledge of the male psyche’ never ceases to astound me.
Her comment was harsh but raises a fair point. A common factor in these mass shootings is misogyny. RHT’s comment was overtly sexist. That doesn’t make him a possible mass shooter, but it should make him–and you–reflect on why such misogyny is tolerated on the right. But given that you elected an open misogynist as president who spent his whole campaign calling even Republican women ugly and on the rag, and has made sexual comments about his own daughter that would get him fired from any workplace if he said them about a co-worker, the answer is fairly obvious. The right does not care about misogyny. That’s a fact. What are you going to do about it?
Chris, I kinda think Trump has evolved and softened his views in his old age. He’s not anywhere close to being as flippant about women as he once was. Is he currently being guilty of misogyny? Eh, I really don’t think so…no I’m serious. I just see Trump as being way too outspoken, not acting presidential and at times crass. I see him a somewhat crude person and reflecting his New York City attitude, but that’s who we knowingly elected because he was so darned transparent and anti-the beltway crowd. Better to have it all out in the open, than a backroom shyster. Trump is blatantly obvious and that much is reassuring, because when he tweets or opens his mouth, we know this is exactly what he’s feeling at the moment. He may be inaccurate, but he’s shooting from the hip, speaking before fact checking and just being his usual self. He’s not an evil man, he’s just Trump, like him or not.
“transparent”
He is the first president since Nixon to refuse to release his tax returns and he lies every day. Stop this madness.
Yes, well, Jack, that would be very clever and funny …
IF …
some local, and girlfriendless guy had NOT just shot up a WalMart!
Another “Ah … men” moment:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/20/us/flasher-hyatt-regency-atlanta-hotel-fall-trnd/index.html
Sorry, couldn’t resist. You will call me harsh, again, but let’s be real … from the gene pool, this guy will not be missed.
“Attorney General Kamala Harris Was Even Worse Than You Think
She was less interested in justice than she was in running for her next office.”
https://thebulwark.com/kamala-harriss-tenure-as-attorney-general-was-even-worse-than-you-think/
You should read the Bulwark more, RHT.
Off-topic: I remember when Obama was denounced here for not publicly encouraging the Iranian protesters. If I recall the administration’s logic was that they didn’t want to discredit the protesters by making them look like American puppets. For that reason, I haven’t joined in the criticism by my fellow liberals of Trump for not vocally supporting the protesters in Hong Kong.
But now, he is publicly siding with China’s president over the pro-democracy protesters, many of which are carrying the American flag:
I know President Xi of China very well. He is a great leader who very much has the respect of his people. He is also a good man in a “tough business.” I have ZERO doubt that if President Xi wants to quickly and humanely solve the Hong Kong problem, he can do it. Personal meeting?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1161774305895694336?s=20
Why does our president love dictators so much? He is not pro-freedom. He desires approval from autocrats whom he sees as “strong.”
And Fauxahontas is making the same claim about Brown, yet nobody in what passes for “journalists” these days is covering that.
Google is fun, J.
https://beta.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/13/harris-warren-ignore-doj-report-claim-that-michael-brown-was-murdered/?outputType=amp
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/08/14/jake-tapper-fact-check-michael-brown-ferguson-warren-harris-orig.cnn
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2019/8/12/20801975/elizabeth-warren-kamala-harris-michael-brown-ferguson-tweets
Maybe you thought no journalists were covering this because you searched “Fauxcahontas Michael Brown?” Journalists don’t tend to use slurs, so I can see why that would turn up nothing. Searching “Elizabeth Warren Michael Brown,” like a normal person, yielded plenty of results.
Chris, thank for those links. Wrong is wrong and we all, conservative, liberal and middle roaders deserve to told the truth, EVEN (gasp) by candidates running for office. I know this not what we’ve come to expect from the those panderers-for-votes-willing-to-say-anything for a headline. But, we do deserve better and we should demand better, because how will we ever restore the trust so essential good government? Wouldn’t it be wonderful if a moderator at the next debate asked some hardball questions about their false statements?
To recap, here is what those two liars said (thanks to Chris);
“Michael Brown’s murder forever changed Ferguson and America. His tragic death sparked a desperately needed conversation and a nationwide movement. We must fight for stronger accountability and racial equity in our justice system.”
— Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.), in a tweet, Aug. 9
“5 years ago Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. Michael was unarmed yet he was shot 6 times. I stand with activists and organizers who continue the fight for justice for Michael. We must confront systemic racism and police violence head on.”
— Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), in a tweet, Aug. 9
Harris tweeted about the fifth anniversary of the “murder” of Michael Brown. Within minutes, Warren followed, saying “Brown was murdered by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri.”
Shocking, another possible democrat president lying. Oh my! This should really upset Chris and Libs. Waiting for Chris to demand they retract their lies.
Peggy, what are you talking about? I have already said that they’re lying.
Yes, our mainstream media is working diligently to thin the herd. I have no objections. Kamala, Pete, I am happy to see them out there, airing opinions, and gaining experience, and rousing the rabble … but Ms. Warren is going to be our next President.
But … goodness …
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/15/politics/israel-visit-ilhan-omar-rashida-tlaib-intl/index.html
Isn’t Netanyahu supposed to be in jail? What happened to his corruption conviction? Israel is really a very odd country.
Kamala the liar, “she is still a rotten liar.” Jack, Your being way to kind!
Ha! Thanks for noting that Harold!
Lying is all democrats know how to do. Repeating lies often enough is their goal to get low informed voters to believe them. Dividing and destroying this country is of no concern to them.
On Ferguson, Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris Told a Terrible Lie:
“Their falsehoods were immoral, divisive, and quite possibly unlawful.
On Friday afternoon, two of the leading contenders in the Democratic presidential primary lied. There’s no other fair way to put it. They flat-out spread fiction, libeled an innocent man, and stoked American divisions — all for political gain.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/elizabeth-warren-kamala-harris-ferguson-michael-brown/
Hey Peggy, remember when you lied about Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post awarding more Pinocchios to Obama than to Trump, when it was the other way around? You literally lied about lies, to protect one of the worst liars ever. Are you ready to retract that lie yet? It would give you more credibility when accusing others of lying. (And yes, as I said, I agree that Kamala and Warren are lying in this instance.)
Grow up Chris and quit trying to play hall monitor. I said Obama got the liar of the year award for telling the lie of the year over 27 times, not counting the hundreds of times other democrats told the same lie. That lie cost us trillions of dollars and millions lost their health care they wanted to keep, but were forced off of.
I don’t owe you an apology now or ever. Why don’t you get Obama to apologize for his award winning lie? Good luck. LOL
Remember the lies Obama told was orchestrated to deceive all of us. The biased media and fact checker gave him a pass on his untruths/lies. On the other hand Trump is dealing with a 90-95% negative media reporting. All he needs to do is get one word wrong and he’s accused of lying.
Obamacare Architect: Yeah, We Lied to The “Stupid” American People to Get It Passed:
Gruber, “You can’t do it political, you just literally cannot do it. Transparent financing and also transparent spending. I mean, this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies. Okay? So it’s written to do that,” Gruber said. “In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in, you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed. Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical to get for the thing to pass. Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.”
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/11/10/obamacare-architect-yeah-we-lied-to-the-stupid-american-people-n1916605
Above should have said, The biased media and fact checker gave him a pass on his other untruths/lies.
I said Obama got the liar of the year award for telling the lie of the year over 27 times, not counting the hundreds of times other democrats told the same lie.
Yes, and that is true, and something I have never argued with. Obama did receive the Lie of the Year Award from Politfact for his lie that “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan,” which was well deserved.
That has nothing to do with your lie that Obama received more Pinocchios from Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post than Trump has.
Why are you trying to deflect from this lie?
That lie cost us trillions of dollars
This is also a lie. Obamacare reduced the deficit, according to the very same fact-checker you just cited to support the fact that Obama lied about people’s ability to keep their plans.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/oct/08/barack-obama/obama-health-care-driving-down-deficit/
The biased media and fact checker gave him a pass on his untruths/lies.
You…literally…just said…that fact-checkers gave Obama the Lie of the Year Award. That is the exact opposite of a “pass.” You also lied and said that another fact-checker awarded Obama more Pinocchios than Trump. You cannot even keep your lies straight. Amazing.
You also ignore that Trump received the Lie of the Year more times than Obama:
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/dec/21/2015-lie-year-donald-trump-campaign-misstatements/
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/12/2017-lie-year-russian-election-interference-made-s/
Which is it, Peggy? Are fact-checkers only right when they fact-check Democrats’ lies, and “fake news” when they fact-check the lies of Republicans? Unlike you, I call out lies on all sides of the aisle.
I don’t believe I made this claim, “That has nothing to do with your lie that Obama received more Pinocchios from Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post than Trump has.” Prove it.
What I remember saying is Kessler’s claim that Trump had lied 10,000 times was debunked. Common sense says that’s a ridiculous claim to make. Telling the truth these days is now being determined on whether someone agrees with you or not. (You do this every on PS) If Trump said all instead of the number 10 he’s accused of lying, even if all was 10.
What’s amazing is your compassion to believe so many lies. Even more so when it’s against Trump or those with different views. Kessler writing that Trump lied that many times and you all constantly repeating it doesn’t make his statement true. Prove it. Show the proof for EVERY lie. I’ll bet most are because Kessler disagreed, just like you call everyone here a liar when you don’t approve of what they say.
I don’t believe I made this claim, “That has nothing to do with your lie that Obama received more Pinocchios from Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post than Trump has.” Prove it.
Happily.
You: LOL – Let’s see how many Pinocchios [Kamala Harris] gets from the WaPo?
Me: How many has Trump received?
You: Not as many as Obama. LOL.
http://www.norcalblogs.com/postscripts/2019/06/27/expose-homeless-tells-dirty-secrets/#comment-193855
As you can see, you falsely asserted that Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post has awarded fewer Pinocchios to Trump than to Obama. As you can also see if you click the link, I gave you multiple opportunities to retract this claim.
Please retract it now.
What I remember saying is Kessler’s claim that Trump had lied 10,000 times was debunked.
You made both claims, actually, and this is the first time you’ve shown evidence that you’re able to distinguish between them and identify them as two separate claims, so that’s progress–before, you either pretended or genuinely thought that they were the same claim, as you can see by clicking the link to that conversation.
But the Market Watch link you provided was not a complete “debunking,” and still supports the general idea that Trump lies more than any president in recent memory–in fact, the excerpt of the article you posted says that directly. It does take issue with Kessler’s methodology and says that about 25% of his verdicts on the list of 10,000 lies are wrong, but that still leaves 7,500 lies. Again, this is from the Market Watch link you posted yourself:
It’s also important to stress, that the Washington Post exaggerating the truth about Trump is not to say that the president isn’t uniquely untruthful. Even if you accept the 25% figure I come up with, and give another 5%-to-10% leeway for comments pretty close or almost true, Trump does spout untruths on a daily basis, sometimes wildly at odds with the facts.
Trump lies more than any other politician. This is simply a fact. Does this mean that others who oppose Trump should be let off the hook for their lies? No. They should be called out as well. But what it does mean is that no one who supports Trump, who refuses to ever acknowledge when he is lying, should be taken seriously when they pretend to be outraged about lies by the other side, as those people–meaning you–do not actually care about honesty on principle. You only care about making your side look good and the other side look bad. You hold Democratic politicians to standards you would never hold Trump to, because Trump has no moral standards, and never has felt any need to live up to them. You could change this by beginning to criticize Trump for his lies, but you’ve shown no interest in that over the past two years, and I don’t expect you to start now.
Here’s the latest whopper lie democrats and the media are telling. They’d rather destroy our economy and put people out of work to make Trump lose in 2020.
Shameful beyond description. ObamaCare lies, the economy lies? All for power and personal gain. This is why no freedom loving individual would be a democrat. Sick!
There’s no economic data to suggest a recession:
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6074418932001/#sp=show-clips
Was there economic data to suggest that the unemployment rate could be as high as 43%, as Trump said multiple times during the 2016 campaign?
Is there any economic data that Trump’s gains reverse trend started by Obama? Can you show me a single graph demonstrating this?