By Pie Guevara
Pie Guevara is an unregistered trademark of Engulf and Devour Investments LLC, a wholly owned subsidiary of Walton Industries which, in turn, is wholly owned by David Walton. So there!
I am appalled and outraged at the blatant, insensitive bigotry recently displayed by the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal. It makes my blood boil as it should every right-minded person who believes in fairness, equality and the God given rights of all.
In a recent ruling the BCHRT has refused to require that genital hair removing female estheticians extend their services to transgender males with male genitalia. This sort of institutionalized genital bigotry should not be tolerated in any society that claims to be just, fair and free. These oppressed, male genital sporting people identify themselves as female and that should be enough for anyone.
It is a slippery slope my friends. Next they will be ruling that so-called “Christian” bakers should not be required to make wedding cakes in the form of male genitalia for transgender couples. Will there ever be true gender freedom and tolerance for all genitals in a just society?
Pie:
I can see you’re having problems figuring out the new guidelines the thought police have instituted, on their own without any outside help.
Let’s see if I can get your mind right for you.
There is no difference, physically or emotionally, between men and women, so we must stop expecting them to behave as though there is. And don’t expect any difference in abilities to perform any physical duties, including commando raids, NFL offensive tackle, and childbirth.
There are, at last count, 165 genders, each entirely different, physically and emotionally, from the other. One’s identification as any one of these is completely up to each individual. It is OK to change one’s mind and become any one of the other 164 at any time. You must accept but not notice.
If one continues to identify with the gender of one’s birth certificate, it is not allowable for him/her/it to notice the difference in others, except when attending a parade at which pride in some choice or another is being declared loudly, with large, colorful signs and creative costumes. You may applaud and throw flowers.
Try to remember these rules, at least until they’re changed again.
There are 166 genders, you gender bigot.
So, why then, when you sign up for a sex change operation, are there only two choices? Color me confused.
You’re right, by golly. Someone needs to file suit against the surgeons who refuse to provide operations for the other 163 hopefuls. If it can be described, there must be a surgeon who can build it.
Pie, you’ve not done justice to the scope of the tragedy at all:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-bc-human-rights-tribunal-rejects-transgender-womans-discrimination/
Get this:
“However, I find that Ms. Yaniv’s predominant motive in filing her waxing complaints is not to prevent or remedy alleged discrimination, but to target small businesses for personal financial gains. In many of these complaints, she is also motivated to punish racialized and immigrant women based on her perception that certain ethnic groups, namely South Asian and Asian communities, are ‘taking over’ and advancing an agenda hostile to the interests of LGBTQ+ people. These motives are not consistent with the Code’s purposes,” the decision states.”
“The tribunal ordered costs against Ms. Yaniv of $2,000 for each of the three respondents who presented a defence at the hearings.”
Little Miss Yaniv is one of yours, after all.
Re: “Little Miss Yaniv is one of yours, after all.”
HAH! This is perfect! Oh yeah, I am a hairy genital tranny who targets small business for personal gain!
Personally I am shocked, SHOCKED that you would align yourself with the gender/genitalia bigots of the tribunal and their transparent, bigoted, hateful, vile character assassination of this hairy transgender woman who only wants her testicles and penis defoliated.
So much for your sympathy for transgender rights. Go wax your mustache, Lippy.
Oh yeah, I am a hairy genital tranny who targets small business for personal gain! Thank you for confirming that this article has nothing to do with any of the principles I brought up involving rights and dignity, but about your need to mock trans people. Libby is correct: the frivolous lawsuit filer is a xenophobe. In this case, your bigotry against trans people won out against your bigotry against Muslims. You’re the same as Yaniv in the sense that you don’t care about the thing she claimed to be fighting for; your primary motive was to hurt people you hate. And you can’t even be bothered to hide it anymore. Such is life in the post-Trump world.
There’s a fine line between satire and strawman, and I think this leans over too much to the latter. I’ve yet to run into anyone on the left who thought Jessica Yaniv had the right to demand anyone wax her body. I’m all for trans rights and believe they are entitled to the same services as everyone else, but in this case the service she was asking for was materially different from the services the waxers she requested typically provide, and they had every right to refuse service on those grounds. Tolerance and respect for others isn’t as hard as some on both the right and left make it out to be. I will also say that there is something particularly creepy about anyone, of any gender, demanding that someone wax something they aren’t trained to wax. From my limited knowledge, the trans community seems to see Yaniv as an embarassment. The BCHRT was right to make this decision.
Funny this instruction on “straw man” and “satire” coming from fallacy boy Souza. Given the steady stream of logical fallacies this poor cretin commits in these pages on a regular basis I suspect he would not know a fallacy if it jumped up and slapped him in the face.
Well, “suspect” is the wrong word here. Souza has repeatedly demonstrated his capacity for committing obvious logical fallacies in these pages and then, predictably, denied such. No need for me to go down that road any more, by any other name this dope is a dope is a dope.
And what this dope does not know about classical logic and rhetoric fills several volumes of books he either never read or never understood.
(P.S. can Souza identify the fallacies contained in his remonstration? Hell no.)
Furthermore, what makes Souza presume that I was trying to be satirical? My post was sincere and heart felt.
As for satire, it is pretty much dead. It is difficult if not impossible to satirize the self-satirical and that is exactly what makes Chris himself impervious to satire. No additional 3rd party satire is necessary and is simply redundant.
Souza definitely needs a wax job. To cover his “fine line” bikini. Idiot.
Oh, Pie … this is so pathetic. Personal abuse is nothing witty … who on earth told you it was? They lied.
Trust Chris to complain. . . . . .
I thought it was great, Pie!
Huh. I see well-poisoning and ad hominem, but no actual rebuttals in your reply, David. What fallacies did I miss? I’d hate to be embarrassed by the Fallacy Understander.
(Also note that this is how David reacts to even the lightest, most genteel criticism. And he thinks it makes him look good to the rest of you.
*whispers* Is he right?)
Souza demands I do his homework for him. This is an old, worn out excuse he has deployed for years. Nothing changes. Sorry Mr. Souza, been there, done that, on multiple occasions, no need to repeat here. I would be better off trying to teach a mollusk Linear Algebra.
Besides, why should I deny Souza the pleasure of doing his own homework?
You and Libby come in here on your high horses lecturing us as the arbiters of morality but neither of you have even paid your slavery reparations to Jussie Smollette. That’s disgusting!
The least you could do is pay oppressed Jussie before you tell us what we should think!
I’ll repeat the argument that you refused to address: in this case the service she was asking for was materially different from the services the waxers she requested typically provide, and they had every right to refuse service on those grounds. Tolerance and respect for others isn’t as hard as some on both the right and left make it out to be. That last part is only true for those who actually care about tolerance and respect for others. Those who use these concepts as nothing but a way to attack others can’t grasp them because they feel no need to; nor do they feel the need to play by any rules whatsoever. Making those rules sound arbitrary and ridiculous is necessary in order to justify such violations. This is the thrust of Pie’s article: it isn’t about rationally weighing the rights or dignity of the opposing parties in this case, it’s about mocking trans people. My comment that actually *did* try and put this case in perspective by rationally weighing those rights against each other thus had to be mocked and dismissed even more savagely, because it couldn’t be rebutted. This is why Pie and others here support Trump: he makes a mockery of the rules, of facts, of reason itself. His only imperative is to attack. What emptiness, what loneliness must drive this behavior? Who knows.
I am really quite disappointed in both Lippy and Chris Souza. One might think that these, ostensibly, multi-gender rights expounding progressives would have sympathy and compassion for a woman who simply wants to be treated as an equal member of society and have her hairy penis and testicles defoliated.
Both Lippy and Souza have completely climbed on board the character assassination of this poor woman, a ruling which was completely contrived by the board to try and cover their own overt gender bigotry and deny this woman her fundamental rights as a hairy transgender person.
It is sad and shameful. At their core Lippy, Chris and the board members are callous, uncaring and blatant Dioning and Dioningin bigots who have it in for a helpless and abused Uranian.