by Jack
Horrible Reporting Adds to Racial Tensions, this title says it all. Our mainstream media is not delivering the truth, just a leftwing version of it. We know why too. It’s deliberately done to disparage President Donald Trump and create more controversy for his administration. It also feeds the BLM narrative about police. They (rabid lefties) want to brand Trump as a racist president and the cops across America, well, they are racist thugs too. They (cops) are allegedly embolden by his leadership and that is why the left wants to defund them! Nothing could be further from the truth.
Take this opening paragraph from a lead story in the popular Washington Post, “The public outcry following the shooting deaths of George Floyd in Minnesota, Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia, Sean Reed in Indiana, Breonna Taylor in Kentucky — and on Friday night, Rayshard Brooks in Georgia — has given the Black Lives Matter movement new urgency. Recent weeks have brought heightened attention to the safety of black Americans in public and private life.” This is how this anti-police news story begins…. but they have already got the story wrong!
- George Floyd, did not die from a police shooting and technically he did not die in police custody. He did die in an ambulance in route to the hospital. The police summoned the ambulance after Floyd had difficulty breathing which came after he resisted arrest.
A county autopsy report later concluded his death was probably due to a heart attack and complications from illegal narcotics. Another autopsy performed for his family concluded an officer cut off his airway. Trial and a massive civil suit are both still pending.
2. Ahmaud Arbery was not shot by police! Police were called to the scene where Arbery lay dead. Following this shooting involving 3 men and investigation began, eventually it would lead to the arrest of the 3 men. Trial is pending.
3. Breonna Taylor, was shot in an exchange of gunfire between three plainclothes detectives trying to serve a search warrant on her apartment, where she resided with her boyfriend. Narcotic trafficking was suspected. One officer was wounded. For more information follow this link. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/fact-check-debunking-7-widely-shared-rumors-in-the-breonna-taylor-police-shooting/ar-BB15PIsx
4. Rayshard Brooks, was on parole, he was suspected of being intoxicated behind the wheel of a vehicle in a Wendy’s drive thru that was part of a larger parking lot. Brooks resisted arrest, grabbed the officer’s taser as he broke free. He fired it several times at the pursuing officer and that’s when the officer fired back. Watch this so-called murder of black man. It’s a long video, but if you think cops are all out to kill black males then you need to watch the whole thing.
5. Sean Reed , (see below) was stopped by police after reckless driving and evading. In a foot pursuit he yelled at the pursuing officer, “F— you cop.” Then according to witness he fired a pistol at the officer. Prior to that he was on Facebook actually talking during the pursuit and he declared he was not going down easy, that he was going to start shooting… yeah, he said this moments before he started shooting. Don’t believe me, watch this video.
This was a bad guy caught on tape being bad. He had a rap sheet showing violence, he had made threats against the police, he didn’t even have a drivers license… but thanks to a bunch of uninvolved agitators saying he was murdered we’ve got all kinds of people, including the Gov. calling for this big investigation and he wants the FBI to be called in too. But, the police are the PROBLEM! A trial is pending against the officer.
Here is one you might be interested in.
America at War with Godless Marxists
https://usawatchdog.com/america-at-war-with-godless-marxists-alex-newman/
Jack, when will they let you go back to the airport? Don’t the planes need maintenance?
Sorry Joe, I just don’t know when the dictator will let us open. I hope by next month, but I’ve been saying that every month for the last 4 months.
Damn straight Jack.
Even Fox News has given up on “We report, you decide.”
Went fishing in. AK for a week and purposely did not watch the news. Made the trip MUCH better.
I don’t believe anything from the alphabet media bobbleheads anymore.
A county autopsy report later concluded his death was probably due to a heart attack and complications from illegal narcotics.
This is not true, according to the person who conducted the autopsy.
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Nationwide, people expressed outrage when prosecutors released the preliminary findings of George Floyd’s autopsy, highlighting cardiovascular disease and “potential intoxicants” in his system, as if those factors might explain his death as police officers pinned him to the ground.
The findings contained just one mention of physical trauma, noting that Floyd’s body showed no signs of asphyxia or strangulation. The public and some medical professionals cried foul, putting Dr. Andrew Baker, Hennepin County’s medical examiner, squarely in the hot seat.
But neither Baker nor his office had released those findings. He was still performing Floyd’s autopsy at the time. The preliminary findings were summarized by prosecutors in the initial charging documents against former officer Derek Chauvin, the veteran Minneapolis police officer who had pinned his knee onto Floyd’s neck for nearly 8 minutes as Floyd begged for air and witnesses pleaded with officers to stop.
The preliminary findings hung over the case for five days before Baker released the full autopsy report. He ruled Floyd’s death a homicide, finding that the officers killed him by subduing him, restraining him and compressing his neck.
https://www.startribune.com/floyd-s-autopsy-makes-medical-examiner-a-rare-target-of-anger/571343522/
Again: both autopsies ruled Floyd’s death was a homicide. Misleading news stories initially presented the preliminary findings as if they were the final word.
WaPo’s claim that Floyd was a “shooting death” is inexcusably sloppy on their part. Hopefully they will issue a correction.
2. Ahmaud Arbery was not shot by police!
On this point, the article is correct; it never says that Arbery was shot by the police.
I’m not up enough on the other cases to comment.
Chris, why do you keep regurgitating every scrap of negative news to convict the officers? I’m not going to render a verdict, I’m neutral. I will remain so until there is a finding one way or the other. And I will present both sides of the story whenever it comes to my attention. You’ve done a masterful job of helping to present the families side, but unfortunately, we’ve heard nothing from the officers side…the defense. That’s a shame. It’s all been coming from prosecution and the media with a vested interest in keep this story alive. By the way, and I almost hesitate to print it now, but your link said, “The earliest findings from the autopsy were released when Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman’s office filed third-degree murder charges against Chauvin four days after Floyd’s death. Prosecutors cited three preliminary autopsy findings: That there were no physical signs Floyd died of asphyxia, that he had cardiovascular disease, and that his health conditions, plus “any potential intoxicants” and the police restraints, likely caused his death.” OMG…he had “potential intoxicants” in his system? Sorry, but they were not potential at all. They were full-on debilitating and that much is obvious to even the most casual of observers.
Chris, why do you keep regurgitating every scrap of negative news to convict the officers?
I’m simply correcting factual errors, as you rightly did when you pointed out that WaPo was wrong to called Floyd’s a shooting death.
I’m not going to render a verdict, I’m neutral. I will remain so until there is a finding one way or the other. And I will present both sides of the story whenever it comes to my attention. You’ve done a masterful job of helping to present the families side, but unfortunately, we’ve heard nothing from the officers side…the defense.
The article I quoted shows the prosecutors essentially acting as the defense, leaking out of context, preliminary findings from an autopsy about other factors leading to Floyd’s death while ignoring the factors that stress the culpability of the accused. A better question would be why prosecutors so often throw the game when it comes to cases against cops.
I’m not asking anyone for a “verdict.” But were I accused of murder, I would not get this kind of preferential treatment that police officers get all the time.
https://www.npr.org/2014/12/04/368529402/its-a-complicated-relationship-between-prosecutors-police
Seems like the officers would still be facing 3rd degree murder charges even if one of the elements was not present. Let me explain: Your article said, “He ruled Floyd’s death a homicide, finding that the officers killed him by subduing him, restraining him and compressing his neck.” Okay, so restraining him and subduing him contributed to his death. Was that part more lethal than the neck compression or was it less than the neck compression? I don’t know, do you know Chris? And how do you assess to what degree the three separate actions contributed to his death or are all the officers present equally guilty, even if they were not aware of the [neck compression] or how it may have affected Floyd?
Based on this odd report, if Floyd had died without Officer Derek Chauvin present they would still be charged because two of the three elements caused death… i.e., the restraining and subduing part. How does the public conclude that Floyd is guilt free – that he in no way contributed to his own demise? Not the drinking, not the drugs, not the criminal offense, not the resisting, he is totally innocent of contributing to his own death. So, based on this finding by the court of public opinion, police are not supposed to [restrain or subdue] a person suspected of committing a crime? lol That’s just great, what are they supposed to do? How do you arrest a guy like Floyd if you can’t restrain or subdue? And is any death that results from restraining and subduing an automatic murder charge now? If during the course of a scuffle the suspect dies, is that always going to be the cops fault?
One thing that bothers me even more than all this is I’ve never seen a doctor pronounce a verdict in any autopsy report. He can say the probable cause of death was…but you never see, “He ruled Floyd’s death a homicide.” Then again by the time the report was finished the public pressure was enormous, rioting was happening and perhaps this influenced to final draft as a form of appeasement and to let the poor doc off the hook?
Jack, why can’t you just say “Officer Chauvin shouldn’t have put his knee on George Floyd’s neck for eight minutes?” This should be really easy. You can play devil’s advocate and claim that any number of pre-existing conditions contributed to Floyd’s death in that moment, but you still can’t deny that this was a dangerous and inappropriate thing for the officer to do and that accidentally killing someone is an expected outcome that a reasonable person could have in such a situation.
Obviously, if Officer Chauvin had used proper force to restrain and subdue Floyd and then Floyd died from a heart attack we’d be having a very different conversation right now. But Chauvin didn’t do that. Both Floyd and Chauvin made bad choices that led to Floyd’s death. But only one of them is still around. Floyd has already paid for his mistakes.
One thing that bothers me even more than all this is I’ve never seen a doctor pronounce a verdict in any autopsy report. He can say the probable cause of death was…but you never see, “He ruled Floyd’s death a homicide.”
You haven’t read very many autopsies, then, because that is absolutely the norm.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/autopsy2.htm
Chris, “Jack, why can’t you just say “Officer Chauvin shouldn’t have put his knee on George Floyd’s neck for eight minutes?”
I’m not going to join the choir on this one. I told you several times now, I thought Chauvin handled it wrong, that’s enough and its as far as I am going to go. I’m not going to join with the abusive news media and the court of public opinion and repeat what we’ve all heard a million times. Why not? I have explained this too, but here goes again. Because in my opinion and as a result of my test results, there is no way that Chauvin’s knee on one side of Floyd’s neck, with the modest force that we saw being applied and un-applied, could be reasonably expected to kill a person . . I refuse to say that it did to make you happy, because I don’t believe its true, it’s not logical. I tested that knee theory and it absolutely, 100%, did not, I repeat, DID NOT cut off my airway or even restrict my speech. I admit it was uncomfortable, at times even a little painful, but it did not cut off my airway and isn’t this really the core complaint for the charge of murder? I am inclined to think Floyd’s death was 90% natural causes aggravated by intoxicants in his system and 10% from scuffling with police, but I am willing to wait for all the evidence to come out before I commit.
Have you tested this theory to see for yourself, you might be suddenly enlightened if you did?
Jack, there is no way you had someone do to you what Chauvin did to Floyd. We all saw the video. “The choir” is right on this one. Two separate medical examiners called this a homicide, but you think you know better than them?
I am glad to see you say that Chauvin “handled it wrong,” but it still baffles me that you are angrier at people for criticizing the officer than you are at the officer himself. Even if you were right and the medical examiners were wrong about the manner of death, Chauvin’s actions would still be a clear example of police brutality. Guys like him make the whole occupation look bad. And when good cops can’t even call out the bad apples, then that can’t help but spoil the whole bunch.