Posted by Tina
Women’s Liber’s in the 1970’s wanted power and respect. They wanted to shrug off the neediness in their pasts. They wanted to stand firmly on their own two feet and prove themselves. They wanted to take their places in the wide world and they expected to be welcomed and treated as men’s equals. Is the overall result that women proudly today stand on their own two independent feet?
Many women have managed to get educated and have brilliant careers. Some have found their way to positions of political power…one became Speaker of the House. Unfortunately the political baggage she brought to Washington is packed with the old and moldy thing women supposedly sought to escape. Nancy Pelosi is using her power and credentials to control the personal affairs of other women making them ever more dependent and needy. Under her tutelage the state is recommended as substitute father, husband…overlord. Her new (old) agenda is characterized as an “economic agenda” for women and includes the following ideas and goals:
Paycheck Fairness; Increase Minimum Wage (Including Tipped); Invest in Job Training and Education Opportunities; Protect and Restore Employment Rights; Support Women Entrepreneurs/Small Businesses; Pregnant Workers Fairness; Adequate Tools to Investigate Wage Discrimination; Paid Sick Leave; Paid Family and Medical Leave; Expanded Family and Medical Leave; Federal Employees Paid Parental Leave
Yep, if women today seek the same independence their elder sisters fought hard to get Nancy suggest they look to the government to handle all the tough stuff so they can play at being working girls…just like they once looked to their daddies to give them an allowance for a few chores but really did all the heavy lifting.
How does that old saying go…We’ve come a long way, “baby”?
Seems an appropriate tag to me!
“Paycheck Fairness; Increase Minimum Wage (Including Tipped); Invest in Job Training and Education Opportunities; Protect and Restore Employment Rights; Support Women Entrepreneurs/Small Businesses; Pregnant Workers Fairness; Adequate Tools to Investigate Wage Discrimination; Paid Sick Leave; Paid Family and Medical Leave; Expanded Family and Medical Leave; Federal Employees Paid Parental Leave”
And you…have a problem with these things, do you?
Tell me Chris, are any of these things NOT already being addressed by government programs, regulation or redistribution?
What age exactly do you think citizens should grow up and take care of their own affairs?
This list is total BS.
Let’s take job training as an example. CATO:
YES…I have a problem with training people to become ingnorant serfs of the state.
These programs are abpout progressive politics…power and control in DC. Pelosi is looking for the women’s vote…she is pandering!
$18 billion dollars a year for what? Zot!
Tina: “Tell me Chris, are any of these things NOT already being addressed by government programs, regulation or redistribution?”
Um…how about all of them? We’ve discussed the minimum wage already. You know that women are paid less than men for the same work, so don’t try and deny it. You know that the U.S. provides less paid leave for both mothers and fathers than European nations, and our workforce is worse off for it.
“What age exactly do you think citizens should grow up and take care of their own affairs?”
The women who are fighting for these causes–which helps women like you, whether you’re grateful for it or not–ARE “taking care of their own affairs.” I’m sorry you can’t see that through your hyper-partisan glasses.
Chris: “how about all of them”
Oh bologna! Our government has so many programs to assist people that it has made people helpless to grow up. Most of it is busy work that accomplishes nothing.
“You know that the U.S. provides less paid leave for both mothers and fathers than European nations…”
Who cares! Europe is in the toilet! everybody wants to vacation and party and nobody wants to work. When they do work they expect to be paid as if they were all CEO’s or brilliant physicians!
“…and our workforce is worse off for it.”
Says who? What the hell does a progressive know about a workforce anyway. They are all about the gimmie. Gimmie this and gimmie that. Look at Europe, they vacation more hours in the year than they work, it;s pathetic! You can’t maintain a workforce, or a thriving economy, when your businesses are forced to pay people NOT to work.
You still have not answered the fundamental questions or responded to the fundamental feminist position, Chris.
Women said they wanted to stand on their own two feet!
Women said they didn’t want to be taken care of!
Now all they do is beg for other people through the government to treat them like babies and children..take care of them…pay for their special needs.
Sorry, it disgusts me! There isn’t enough money in the world to satisfy this spoiled brat mentality…the demands never stop!
Women should either work and live within their means or shut up, get married, stay home, and live within their husbands means.
And please, don’t extract tax money to pay for all this garbage from me, my husband, our kids and grand kids, our business, our kids inheritance, and then tell me you’re trying to do me a damn favor.
Grow up!
“Who cares! Europe is in the toilet! everybody wants to vacation and party and nobody wants to work. When they do work they expect to be paid as if they were all CEO’s or brilliant physicians…Look at Europe, they vacation more hours in the year than they work, it;s pathetic!”
I’m not entirely sure where the line is between hyperbole and flat-out lying, but I’m pretty sure you’ve just crossed it.
Either way, what you’re saying is ridiculous.
There is simply no evidence that the U.S. is benefiting economically from being the only advanced economy in the world that doesn’t require paid vacation time, nor is there evidence that every other country is suffering from their more generous paid leave policies. (It’s quite arrogant to assume that the U.S. is the only country in the world doing this right.)
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505143_162-57586068/when-it-comes-to-vacations-the-u.s-stinks/
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2109263,00.html
http://www.alternet.org/story/156131/why_europe%27s_laws_on_vacations_are_better_than_your_wildest_dreams_%28and_how_badly_americans_get_screwed%29?page=0%2C1
“Says who? What the hell does a progressive know about a workforce anyway. They are all about the gimmie. Gimmie this and gimmie that.”
We’re not talking about people getting something for nothing. The policies you highlight in this article are for WORKING PEOPLE. They aren’t demanding a free ride, they’re demanding fair compensation for their labor.
“You can’t maintain a workforce, or a thriving economy, when your businesses are forced to pay people NOT to work.”
You *actually* think that’s what paid leave is? If so, I pity your employees. Paid leave is not about “paying people not to work.” It’s about rewarding the people who make your business possible for the job they are doing. And there is hard data showing that this increases worker productivity. That’s a factor you completely ignore, because your worldview says that a worker’s happiness and well-being is virtually irrelevant to the employer. You can’t understand how these benefits can actually benefit your business because you’re stuck in a 19th century mindset regarding how workers should be treated. This laissez-faire attitude was discredited before you were born.
“You still have not answered the fundamental questions or responded to the fundamental feminist position, Chris.
Women said they wanted to stand on their own two feet!
Women said they didn’t want to be taken care of!
Now all they do is beg for other people through the government to treat them like babies and children..take care of them…pay for their special needs.”
I’m sorry, are these supposed to be “questions?”
AGAIN: these women are not asking to be “taken care of.” They are working, and they are demanding to be fairly compensated. That’s it. If that “disgusts” you, you are the one with the problem. Period.
If you lived in the early 1900s you would be protesting child labor laws, complaining about Upton Sinclair, and telling suffragettes to “shut up.” I wish you had a time machine to take you back to that period; you would have been much happier. But I’m not about to let you drag the rest of the country back there.
The following examples are for paid vacation time:
The number of government required vacation days in France is 30; the number of days that are actually taken for vacation is 37
Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden each get 25 mandatory vacation days.
Italians take 42 days on average.
Germans and Austrians take 35.
In the UK the average vacation time is 28 days.
The vacation time is in addition to paid national holidays off which number from two in Norway to 13 in Italy.
Sick leave is a disease in itself in many European countries. According to a WSJ article, “The average European worker took off 11.3 days in 2005, compared with 4.5 days for the average American, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, in Paris. The cost of those lost workdays to Europe’s economy is sometimes as much as 1.3% of gross domestic product annually, says OECD senior economist Christopher Prinz.”
According to a Salon article, “A worker who becomes unfit during his paid annual leave, is entitled at a later point to a period of leave of the same duration as that of his sick leave.” This means that European workers can take their paid sick leave during their paid vacations, and take their vacations all over again… in addition to your paid sick leave, maternity and paternity paid leave, and paid leave to care for a sick relative.”
Greek law provides up to three days of paid leave for workers to vote, if accessing their polling stations requires travel.
Employees in Spain receive paid leave for acts of civic duty including jury service, and for moving. Sweden requires employers to provide paid leave for workers fulfilling
union duties. Austria, Sweden, and New Zealand require employers to pay workers at a premium rate while they are on paid leave. Austria is the most generous forcing employers pay workers taking their month-long paid leave a “13th month” salary, paid at the same time as the usual monthly salary, but taxed at a lower rate.
When the hell do the work?
Does it occur to anyone on the left that a paycheck is compensation for WORK actually performed?
Recently it was disclosed taxpayers were paying the salaries of IRS workers to do ONLY union work instead of IRS work, which would require additional employees to be hired to do their IRS duties.
We are being taxed to pay for the union worker’s salaries instead of the unions paying their salaries with union dues. Rubbing salt into the would we’re paying to have higher taxes to pay for their negotiated increases to take even more from us.
California Ed Code also grants “release time” to teachers to do union and other approved organization duties instead of the job hired for. (I’m pretty sure all others states have a similar plan.) The difference appears to be the union does reimburse the employer for the salary and pension contribution, but is held responsible for the substitute’s salary and benefit cost. And the “released” employee does still earns service credits toward their retirement while performing the union work instead of their teaching duties.
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Coburn: Hundreds of IRS employees work full-time on labor union business:
The Internal Revenue Service spends millions of dollars a year for 200 employees who actually work full-time on labor-union business even as it furloughs employees and cuts taxpayer advice services under the budget sequester, Congress‘ chief waste watcher said in a new letter to the tax agency.
Sen. Tom Coburn, Oklahoma Republican, joined Rep. Phil Gingrey, Georgia Republican, in a letter asking the IRS to stop paying those employees for work that doesn’t benefit the taxpayer.
“While the IRS continues to request more funding to further close the more than 14.5 percent tax gap, especially under the current budget crunch and sequestration, it makes little sense to use taxpayer resources to pay for union work,” the two lawmakers wrote in the letter dated June 27. “This kind of practice takes place only in the government — in the private sector, union work and staff are paid for by union dues.”
Known as “official time,” the arrangement allows federal employees to get paid by taxpayers even as they perform their union duties.
The lawmakers said more than 40 of the workers doing union business make six-figure salaries, and all told there were more than 200 IRS employees serving in 100 percent “official time capacity” from Jan. 20 through June 6, 2012.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/2/coburn-irs-employees-work-labor-union-business/#ixzz2av7A7C26
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EDUCATION CODE
SECTION 44930-44988
44987. (a) The governing board of a school district shall grant to any employee, upon request, a leave of absence without loss of compensation for the purpose of enabling the employee to serve as an elected officer of any local school district public employee organization, or any statewide or national public employee organization with which the local organization is affiliated. The leave shall include, but is not limited to, absence for purposes of attendance by the employee at periodic, stated, special, or regular meetings of the body of the organization on which the employee serves as an officer. Compensation during the leave shall include retirement fund contributions required of the school district as employer. The required employer contribution rate shall be the rate adopted by the Teachers’ Retirement Board as a plan amendment with respect to the Defined Benefit Program as provided in Section 22711. The employee shall earn full service credit during the leave of absence and shall pay member contributions as prescribed by Section 22711. The maximum amount of the service credit earned may not exceed twelve calendar years. Any employee who serves as a full-time officer of a public employee organization is not eligible for disability benefits under the State Teachers’ Retirement Plan while on the leave of absence. Following the school district’s payment of the employee for the leave of absence, the school district shall be reimbursed by the employee organization of which the employee is an elected officer for all compensation paid the employee on account of the leave. Reimbursement by the employee organization shall be made within 10 days after its receipt of the school district’s certification of payment of compensation to the employee. The leave of absence without loss of compensation provided for by this section is in addition to the released time without loss of compensation granted to representatives of an exclusive representative by subdivision (c) of Section 3543.1 of the Government Code. For purposes of this section, “school district” also means “county superintendent of schools.”
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=edc&group=44001-45000&file=44930-44988
Release Time President Compensation lawsuit:
Today in the North County Times brings news that the Vista Unified School District has decided to sue the Vista Teachers’ Association for the full costs of our release time president. Not a good move for VUSD as the California Education Code clearly says that the VTA only owes the district the costs of the substitute who sits in the classroom of the release time president.
http://vistaschools.blogspot.com/2010/09/release-time-president-compensation.html
“When the hell do the work?”
Are…are you asking me to tell you how many days there are in a year?
“Does it occur to anyone on the left that a paycheck is compensation for WORK actually performed?”
I already addressed this. Paid leave is also compensation for work actually performed. If you don’t understand that, I feel terrible pity for your employees.