Posted by Tina
BE SURE TO TUNE IN: CBS “60 MINUTES” TONIGHT – REPORT ON CORRUPTION IN DC
CBS reporter Steve Croft and Government Accountability Institute President and Breitbart News Senior Editor-at-Large Peter Schweizer will present information from an investigation into the corruption that befouls our government:
Sources say top CBS executives thought the report was so explosive that they made it the show’s lead story and delayed airing it for another week in order to capture tonight’s much larger NFL-viewing audience. The report features selected revelations from Schweizer’s forthcoming book, “Extortion: How Politicians Extract Your Money, Buy Votes, and Line Their Own Pockets”.
The program will air following the football game tonight.
This is where it all comes from!!!!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4f3_1382304806
CNN interview – Ted Cruz welcomed by Texas Republican Women like a rock star.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FePEK5Tc2Rk
Challenge to Libby,Chris and all the other of their like that are not worth mentioning. I want to hear a defense of Obama after you watch the video I posted. How can you follow a man that is so lacking in integrity.
That is a pretty damning collection of video clips. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, MCS
Who was that masked man?!!!
More Common Sense, I don’t have time to examine every claim made in a video compilation. If you want to pick a specific claim from the video you’d like me to engage on, I’d be glad to respond, but I’m not going to go through an entire list. I’ve done that before here, and it was a waste of time.
This is for Chris! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Give me a break. The issue is Obama’s lies! Address the issue. If this stresses you then pick your favorite lies. OMG you are a despicable fool!
Chris: LOL, what a pathetic response! That’s all you can think of to say? It must be embarrassing!
The point is he is a liar. You seem to be dismissing my post because there are TOO many examples of his lies. Address the issue! How can you support such a morally corrupt man! This time you can’t spin the discussion because the proof is from the president himself. He seems to be completely oblivious that everything he says in public is recorded. Either that or he understands that there are people like you Chris that will ignore the facts and support him anyway. They will just say, “He had to lie to further his agenda. The end justifies the means! Lying is just a tool masterfully used to further his political agenda”. Pathetic!
Oh, I forgot…. As you said, you addressed all this before so I’m just wasting your time.
Pathetic! Pathetic! Pathetic!
Chris there are no “claims” in the video. It’s all straight from the donkeys mouth.
Nicely done MCS!
More Common Sense, you’re arguing in generalizations. Pick a specific “lie” and I will discuss it with you. The last time someone (I believe it was Harold) posted a list of Obama’s “lies,” most of them weren’t actually lies at all. Like I said, I am not going to go through a whole list again. Which one would you like to talk about?
60 Minutes did not disappoint. This was one outstanding report that I hope everyone will watch. The link to the video is in our article Crooked Politicians… There’s two commercials, but it’s worth watching.
Chris,
Keep squirming!!!! LOL. You can’t get away from this one by trying to misdirect.
I’m not posting a list of things I believe are lies. Obviously you did not watch the video. There is no one on the video talking other than Obama and the lies are obvious and indisputable. The issue is he lies to get what he wants like a little boy. He lacks honesty and integrity. He is a power hungry little man! There is no way you can view this video and argue that he is an honest man.
Chris,I am not looking for a marathon discussion about this, but I am with Common Sense on this issue about your patented answer of “I have addressed this before and your just wasting my time” a very defensive position for someone who is posting on this blog to correct ineffectual misinformation.(and often you have been proven wrong in your misdirection of the subject.)
You locate articles that support your position, but frequently those findings in those articles never qualify your posts 100%. So when that happens, it seems your on to another post looking for a flaw that you can use to publicly try to ridicule or flaunt its inadvertent omissions in a berating and insulting put down manner.
However when you have to answer directly, as in the question put to you in this post by Common Sense, a question that is appears to be to your disadvantage on the subject matter, your silence is always deafening.
And please don’t ask for a specific, as we ALL have covered the list before, and it is a waste of OUR time. No one is perfect, lest of all you, but at Post Scripts the intent (as I see it) is to discuss current issues and help each other get to the truth in a civil manner. Your opinion has ofttimes been acknowledged as helpful, especially when you have been civil about it.
“Obviously you did not watch the video.”
You’re right, I didn’t; I thought I made it clear that I had no interest in doing so, but if you had a specific point to bring up, I would engage with it. But you’re not interested in rational conversation or anything more fruitful than a collection of soundbites.
Out of curiosity, I did watch the first minute or so just now. Do you honestly think Obama’s broken promise to close Guantanamo is news to me? You haven’t been here that long. I have been Guantanamo’s fiercest critic, and Obama is a coward for not closing that unconstitutional hellhole immediately. I also have criticized him here for his attempts to extend the Iraq War beyond the timetable set by Bush–contrary to conservatives’ claims that Obama pulled out early, he actually wanted to keep our troops there longer; Iraq wouldn’t let him.
But coming from your side, these critiques are bullshit. Your party supports Guantanamo and didn’t want us to leave Iraq. The guy seriously can’t win with you, even when he does exactly what you want him to do. Your critiques are totally arbitrary and lack any kind of consistent moral position.
Harold, your comment is reasonable and fair. I’ll take your words under consideration.
Pretty weak, Chris.
It has to be said that after nearly five years of continuing war, accelerated war, creative war, war with rules of engagement that are ridiculous, war waged against us on our own soil that goes unacknowledged as anything but “workplace violence”, etc, etc…this President has received almost zero criticism, including on Post Scripts. Not the kind of criticism Republican Presidents always receive.
Obama has been promoted. He’s been protected and given cover.
The two minor lies that Chris was willing to acknowledge, Gitmo and Iraq, are examples that were easy for him to talk about.
Closing Gitmo was not something that was a high priority for many of us. The world needs a secure place to house the worst of the worst when we grab them. If not for the peace movement’s covert remnant resisting the war and military justice we might also have seen the perpetrators were given swift justice in military trials.
The pushers of nirvana peace have not been as relentless in waging war against Obama’s war. (cover) Code Pink isn’t camped in front of the White House. (cover) They haven’t joined the Obama’s in Martha’s Vinyard or Hawaii. (cover) Lawyers are quiet because there’s a Democrat in power in the WH.
The media certainly has not made the war big news. (protection and cover)
Leaving Iraq as he did wasn’t just about troops; that had already been negotiated, as we acknowledged.
It was about keeping the lines of communication open and maintaining a relationship. Obama did not do that; that was Bush’s war and he wanted no part of it. Now thanks to his pompous attitude and gigantic ego, the country our guys fought so hard to free is falling apart and falling to al Qaeda. That need not have happened had we had a President with sound leadership abilities and a Secretary of State that was worthwhile. It need not have happened had we had a president that was in the WH to serve our country instead of himself and his ambitious agenda to “fundamentally transform” America.
The remaining lies on the tape posted by More Common Sense are being denied and ignored by the very people who bought these lies and elected Obama…twice!
I don’t know how they can stand it but they continue to behave as if he has created an economy with near zero unemployment, returned stability to the nation, healed the sick, uplifted the poor, and caused the oceans to recede or whatever the hell it was he said when he was playing god all through 07. Obama supporters and defenders act as if under his leadership his administration and Congress have been the most transparent government in the history of the world! At the same time…they deny the reality, the unemployment and underemployment, the corruption, the spending and relentless redistribution.
Republicans…as we are now seeing…are hard on themselves and each other…maybe more than we should at times.
If Democrats would just do half as much objecting. But no, they hang together no matter how egregious the fail or corruption. Some of them don’t care as long as they get what they want…power.
But for others what is it? It isn’t just loyalty.
What is it?
Chris,
Watch the whole video. This the problem! There are many of you that are entranced by Obama to the point of ignoring any facts that might change your mind about this man. This is what he is counting on. If you are sooooooo right, what have you got to lose. Watch the video. Then if you feel you still have a defense for his comments, lets hear it.
By the way, Tina, your logic and your writing are exceptional!
Tina: “Closing Gitmo was not something that was a high priority for many of us. The world needs a secure place to house the worst of the worst when we grab them.”
Well, the funny thing about holding people in a secret prison for years with no intention of ever giving them a fair trial, is that it makes it kind of hard to tell if they actually ARE the worst of the worst. The vast majority of Guantanamo prisoners have been released precisely because the gov’t couldn’t figure out how to charge them. There are too many stories of innocent people being mistaken for terrorists and taken. At least one man was tortured before the government realized they had the wrong guy.
The founders realized that this kind of medieval “justice” could not be tolerated in a free society. No one who believes in the Constitution can defend indefinite detention. Bush implemented this policy, but Obama signed it into law. Had Tea Party members spent the last five years berating Obama for this very real constitutional violation, instead of dozens of fake ones, you might have my sympathy. Instead you’re perfectly willing to allow the government to detain people without evidence or a trial, as long as you don’t have to buy health insurance.
“Code Pink isn’t camped in front of the White House.”
You just don’t know what you’re talking about. I Googled “Code Pink Obama” and found numerous examples of anti-Obama protests and heckling from the organization.
Chris: “Well, the funny thing about holding people in a secret prison for years…”
Secret?
Gitmo is a secret?
News to me.
“…with no intention of ever giving them a fair trial…”
A military trial IS a fair trial. The main reason these men were not tried in timely fashion is that those who do not recognize the military, military justice, and the rules of war created delay after delay…the mucked up the process.
It’s the same idiot thinking that has placed our kids lives in more danger as they serve on the battle field with stupid rules of engagement.
It’s the same thinking that believes if you offer a free product and subsidies to low earners or the poor that the ranks of the poor won’t increase. IDIOTS! Idiots that think they can create a perfect riskless world where all pain and suffering is eliminated.
“…hard to tell if they actually ARE the worst of the worst.”
Gee Chris. Life as an adult is hard. The fact is the men were being considered in a world where the enemies mindset is deception and covert methods of destruction and we were working through the process of freeing or returning to country of origin as expeditiously as possible…but also with care to protect the American people. As we saw the process is not perfect. Some that went back returned to the field of battle. Most were waging war on us and had evil intentions to harm us by harming the innocent and our financial and structural underpinnings.
“There are too many stories of innocent people being mistaken for terrorists…”
How many? Was it more than the nearly 3000 murdered on 911? More than the numbers murdered in countless attacks in many countries over decades? Life is not fair. Our government was doing everything they could to respect those who were less dangerous and possibly gathered up in error. If you had taken the time to read about how these (pampered) prisoners were accommodated you would know that they were not treated badly in their circumstances and they were released as quickly as our government could get it done. Some countries didn’t want them back.
“At least one man was tortured before the government realized they had the wrong guy.”
Source please.
“No one who believes in the Constitution can defend indefinite detention.”
It was never our intention to detain them indefinitely. See explanation of delaying tactics above by those who (hate the military) and undermined the process.
“…in a free society.”
Our enemy has no respect for free societies! Our enemy does not recognize our law or our Constitution. Military law, the international rules covering war apply!
“Bush implemented this policy…”
Bush followed the international laws that cover war and it was the right thing to do.
“Obama signed it into law”
So where is the outrage from the left? Where is the outrage in the media? Why have the headlines not beat Obama into the ground? that’s how they treated Bush!!!
“Had Tea Party members spent the last five years…”
Are you kidding me? You are really going to shove this responsibility onto the Tea party that your party and the media have excoriated as racist without evidence? What is your responsibility? What of those lawyers that undermined Bush’s military/war approach? Where has the left been? Certainly NOT standing on principle!
“…as you don’t have to buy health insurance.”
I’ve bought health insurance all my adult life. As a business owner I have bought health insurance for my employees. I’m willing to buy health insurance as are most responsible adults.
The protest is not about buying health insirance. the protest is multifaceted. the law is too complex. the law is a redistribution power grab. the plan will add trillions to the debt. The plan picks winners and losers. The plan is oppressive to the economy and jobs. The plan will hurt many of the people it was supposed to help. The plan puts too much power in the hands of an unelected bureaucrat…it goes on.
I Googled “Code Pink Obama”
Oh…you had to google, huh?
When Code Pink camped in front of the Bush ranch for weeks on end, accompanied by constant media attention we all knew about it.
“found numerous examples of anti-Obama protests and heckling from the organization.”
Yeah they pop up from time to time. So what. Nobody cares. the media ignores them.
The radical left is not principled. The media is biased. The “news” we hear and see on a daily basis is biased.
More Common Sense your kind words are much appreciated, thank you.
I enjoy participating here and I also enjoy very much the contributions of others. We all have unique ways of expressing ourselves and bring unique perspectives to the discussions. I hope you will continue to join us. Variety, as they say, is the spice of life.
Alas, I didn’t look at the video either.
Lot of schlocky advertising on that site. Can’t back out once you’re on, and we know what that means. I cleaned out my cookies right away. But the “horses” without the apostrophe? Call me a snob, but that was the last straw.
I am intrigued though. Most of his broken promises are things conservatives don’t want him to do anyway, so why are you complaining?
Three cheers for the Irish. They at least acknowledge the hypocrite sitting in our Oval Office that progressive liberals deny exist by refusing to watch the truth of his own words on videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIMucHfUMyg&feature=player_detailpage
“A military trial IS a fair trial. The main reason these men were not tried in timely fashion is that those who do not recognize the military, military justice, and the rules of war created delay after delay…the mucked up the process…
…It was never our intention to detain them indefinitely.”
I’m sorry, this is just willful denial of reality at this point.
“They at least acknowledge ….”
Yes, but are you going to tell us why you’ve got your knickers in a twist over things Obama hasn’t done … that you don’t want done?
We want to know. We want to know if you know.