According to new polling by Public Policy Poling conducted for MoveOn, in voters support Medicaid expansion in key states by wide margins: 52 to 35 percent in Kansas, 58 to 33 percent in Florida, 59 to 30 percent in Pennsylvania, 54 to 38 percent in Georgia. All are states where Medicaid expansion has been blocked by Republican politicians. In Virginia, where the GOP has also blocked Medicaid expansion, a previous poll found that even a majority of state Republican voters support extending coverage for the state’s low-income residents. And other polls show that three-out-of-four Americans nationwide, including a majority of Republicans, support Medicaid expansion.
On the other side the news is, almost 41% of small businesses say they are either laying off employees or placing a hiring freeze because they can’t pay the health insurance required under ObamaCare.
What this means is taxpayers will be forced to pay more because the real cost of the ACA will greatly exceed prior estimates. It can’t be any other way! You can’t insure 10 million people who were previously uninsurable while reducing the total number of persons actually paying into the system and not expect premiums to rise.
I wonder if the polling question bothered to ask how much they thought their state taxes would have to rise to meet expanded medicaid mandates.
Most people who answer the polling questions respond immediately with their hearts. They never think about the impact it might have on their personal budgets when their taxes have to be raised to meet the federal mandate.
People have been conditioned to think entitlement is without limits because we will simply “tax the rich” and “they don’t need that money. they don’t think that the tax will hit them too or that taxing the rich too much will cost people job opportunities.
The ignorance about how other people’s money also works to create jobs is maddening!
Jack: “On the other side the news is, almost 41% of small businesses say they are either laying off employees or placing a hiring freeze, because they can’t pay the health insurance required under ObamaCare.”
Please cite evidence for this ridiculous claim.
Tina: “I wonder if the polling question bothered to ask how much they thought their state taxes would have to rise to meet expanded medicaid mandates.”
The answer would be zero, since the expansion is fully paid for by the fed for the first nine years.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3801
OK, I Googled it myself. One poll conducted last summer did show about 41% of employers say they had “frozen hiring” due to the law. But Jack’s claim was about lay-offs, not hiring freezes. Only 19% said that they had reduced their employees due to the law.
So unless 19% now counts as “almost half,” Jack’s statement is wrong.
To add to that, these types of polls aren’t very reliable–employers may be citing Obamacare even though they would have frozen hiring anyway. And since so many polls show that people are deeply confused about the impact of the law–no doubt partially because of the vast misinformation campaign against the law that continues to be waged on this very site–this doesn’t estimate the real impact of the law, only what people think the impact might be.
Unfortunately Chris I took this number from TV news, but I’ll look further for you.
The corporations are doing very well. Companies also told their employees they would be laid off if they voted for Obama last election.
propaganda, fear mongering, ect ect
Some people will leave their jobs they kept for healthcare now they can get it themselves and do what they love instead, some will give up that second job.
media is bought and corrupt. You have to read the reports and turn off the tv and propaganda blogs anymore.
Still waiting for how it affected your healthcare cause I know you certainly would not be on the gov dole with medi care or anything. After all the Tea Party wants to get rid of all that.
Medicaid also as a down side. For those who sign up, the states can and will go after any remaining estate for repayment after a recipient dies.
In some cases, heirs may be in for a rude awakening.
Nine whole years, huh?
Unfortunately the federal government is already $17 trillion in debt (and rising) so that news isn’t very comforting. The money for it still comes from taxpayers or just adds to the debt.
(Remember when progressives were screaming about debt? That was back when the debt was around $9.5 trillion. The President said it was irresponsible to spend the nation in to debt like that. Think Progress said of the debt that “a staggering $7.7 trillion…represents the fiscal harm that President Bush has inflected on our nation.” They also wailed about a slightly higher unemployment rate of 5%)
When the nine years come to en end the sudden added mandate to state budgets will be felt. During those nine years the ACA will still add 2.8% to what states spend on Medicaid. CBO thinks other “savings” will offset this expense…maybe cuts in services to the elderly or in lower payments to hospitals and doctors?
Bottom line…the government just expanded the entitlement class and it has to be paid for somehow.
The employer mandate delay until after 2014 has placed the full effect of the ACA on employment off until after the elections in November.
In July 2013 Natural News posted the results of a report:
In November of 2012 NewsMax listed big companies that planned to layoff employees:
Many retailers are downsizing by closing the most nonproductive stores…that eliminates all jobs in those towns.
In January 2013 TeaParty.org quoted one of the Presidents favorite economists, Mark Zandi of Moody’s, and then explains the situation:
Janet Yellen expressed concern as reported by Larry Kudlow:
The one thing that is never figured in progressive policies and laws is the people factor. People don’t have the power to print money as Obama has done for five years. When their bottom line is smacked with sudden and strong added expense they adjust or die. They pull back…something has to go…and quite often, unfortunately, it’s employees who take the hit. It’s heartbreaking but businesses can’t lower the rent or utilities and can’t stop rising prices for the things they need to run their businesses…shipping, parts, new inventory.
A community college needed a six million dollar adjustment!
This law is just not workable. Where is the morality in helping people when you have to hurt others to do it?
It sure isn’t saving those people who liked their policy and won’t be saving $2500 on their insurance. It sure isn’t helping people whose hours have been cut or people who want to work and can’t get a job. And as we tolerate the high unemployment and people become discouraged, all in the name of Obama’s agenda, how will we meet the growing demand for help as those who need outnumber those who pay? The result of this downward spiral will not be pretty.
In this forum Dewey and Chris sure go far to prove themselves to be the arrogant, self-righteous, snot- nosed jerks that they are.
“Please cite evidence for this ridiculous claim.”
“Only 19% said that they had reduced their employees due to the law.
“So unless 19% now counts as “almost half,” Jack’s statement is wrong.”
As it turns out it wasn’t ridiculous and (ONLY!) 19% of employers laying off employees because of Obamacare is not insignificant. The nitpicking, bullying, self-righteous pissant strikes again!
As for Chris The Coward’s new pal Dewey, he is effectively stating that the Post Scripts folks are a bunch of ignorant, buffoons who have been brain washed by media propaganda. Gee whiz, how does one answer that??? This is the typical of Dewey’s slurs. Could Dewey be any more of a clueless, presumotive, arrogant, insulting, pompous, cowardly, anonymous creep? I think not. Dewey, you know nothing about the Tea Party and cannot speak for them. All you do is toss snot and disjointed, stream of mentally defective and dysfunctional sneers, just like your 2-year-old mental equal, Chris The Coward.
WHAT A PAIR! Have you had enough of these two @$$holes yet? No? Well, then, keep enabling them.