Any EU country that allows any group of people (Muslims now) to create laws (Sharia) that are not officially passed/sanctioned by their central government and who allow ‘No-Go Zones’ where regular citizens and police can no longer go, are getting EXACTLY what they deserve.
The USA has Sanctuary Cities for Illegal’s now wherein USA Federal Laws are ignored and/or violated. Not much different than the E U’s ‘No-Go Zones’..!
The USA put Native American’s on reservations 170+ years ago. They’re not much different now than the E U’s ‘No-Go Zones’..! UMM, YOU SAY “NO”..? Well, when was the last time you were on a ‘real’, USA Native American Reservation, not just a fancy casino..?
The USA imported Black slaves into our nation and now Blacks make up about 14% of the USA population. Too many are condensed in decaying, ghetto-like, drive by killing/drug infested/gang banging conditions of poverty and below…not much different than the E U’s ‘No-Go Zones’ are..!
The USA has allowed 11 to 15 million, ILLEGAL Hispanics [-and a few from other nations, some with dubious intent-] illegally into our country. They’ve taken over Southern California and parts of other states. They have become potent political forces, not terrorists and by 2030 most hard working Hispanics will have become a deciding factor in our Presidential and many national elections.
The USA has regions in counties and cities where police WILL NOT GO unless they’re backed up by other units and are in 2 personnel police vehicles, minimum. Sound like the E U yet..? It’s true.
The world has been/is being confronted by a growing new Mafia dominated by loosely linked, radicalized, Muslim CRIMINALS using a variety of weapons and tactics to murder people. The Media coverage and the WMD Internet has made them far more potent than they truly are. Yet, they’re seemingly growing in stature with every beheading and every murderous event WHILE WE EASILY KILL 120,000 HERE WITH MEDICAL MISTAKES EACH YEAR AND ABOUT 400,000 DIRECTLY WITH CIGARETTES..?
Never mind we have nuts here that kill dozens in a school or workplace or blow up buildings killing hundreds or bomb marathons. Never mind that we have cities in decay while we galavant about Mars with ego driven, NASA frivolity in our outer space, trillion dollar dreams looking for NOTHING but little green men [-and little green women of course-]…! FORGET WE KEEP LEGALIZING DOPE FOR GARNERING MORE TAXES.
Religion and politics have finally come full circle in 150,000++ years of humanity and their nexus is now absolute. Nowhere on any Media…of any kind…is there anyone NOT talking about Jesus Christ, God, Allah or some other religious deity/story line that simply equals an ‘Us vs Them’ political/religious design that kills…has killed…keeps killing…will always kill…as Islam [-and the others-] have ALL done over the Millennia. WE MUST SOMEHOW STOP THE SYNONYMOUS, RELIGIOUS/POLITICAL KILLINGS BEFORE HUMANITY EVENTUALLY PERISHES…!
Some weird, political and religious/synonymous correctness, led by Liberal, political Leftist’s, a few goofy Moderates and even a slew of radical Conservatives [-all with different agendas-], has created a strange system of weak losers and inept leaders who ALL talk global jibberish while people die like flies. 2000++ were just assassinated by terrorists in north, central Africa a few days ago..! Those mass events make the Paris 12 look like nothing…! Oh yes, ‘it’s just in Africa’…’who REALLY cares’…? It’s not Paris…or in New York again ~ !
The Left’s anti-police/anti-military and anti-intelligence climate will cause rational people to never defeat the spreading, Islamic-radicalized, Mafia-like, criminal terrorism we see expanding now. The Leftist mentality is murderous in it’s power over essential, TOUGH decision making.
World powers like China, Pakistan, Russia, France, India, Israel, Germany, England and the USA all have seriously problematical years ahead with the slow….but ever growing, global, Islamic Jihadist’s inside all of their countries now. Many other smaller countries are in the same boat as well.
The larger, most powerful nations should unify at a Summit and vow to stamp out the Islamic Jihadist criminality among their midst any way they can. Yet today, at a show of global unity by 3.7 million people, our President was strangely missing in France.
It sickens credible logic that all we see are ‘after-the-fact’ hand wringing, the laying of teddy bears/flowers and media overkill that ‘kind of’ entertains audiences at numerous terrorism sites where murderous deaths are almost becoming a way of life. ALL while we and others issue warnings and do little or nothing to unify humanity against the dangers that the crazies represent.
90,000 cops in France have been bouncing about their nation [-of course, steering clear of ‘No-Go Zones’-] trying to find 1 female crook who split to Syria. 1 crook…a criminal. She has been given a Media prominence of “Terrorist” and now may become the new ‘Queen of ISIS’…and they hate women..? 3 dead criminals…1 wanted female and the world goes into a frenzy of Media Madness. It’s like a poorly scripted MTV show…>!< >Our blathering, fuzzy-headed, divisive President should man-up and STOP releasing Jihadist crazies from Guantanamo Bay. STOP coddling Islam and KEEP the Guantanamo Bay Prison open to deal with these religious, Islamic criminals and the highly unconventional (and conventional) criminality they are wreaking havoc with. He should inform the Saudi’s that we’re all done with them unless they bring TOTAL sanction to bear on their hundreds of Royal Family Wahhabist $$$ supporters of the global Jihad.
Our obviously racist, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, should federally shut down the Sanctuary Cities [-our own USA, ‘No-Go Zones’ ~ !-] that have been/are being criminally established here in our nation right under our very noses.
Let us quickly engage in some widespread Mosque penetrations, a little enhanced interrogation again, some serious/workable/tangible profiling, some brand new NSA surveillance, a few more renditions and establish some new, special monitor courts for PRACTICAL OVERSIGHT.
Let’s do whatever else it takes to DESTROY these goofy, Islamic criminals wherever they huddle and plan. Unconventional warfare requires unconventional means as long as we don’t unleash said means upon our LAW-ABIDING selves.
It is coming down to uniting the major, world powers, the moderates of Islam and doing WHATEVER else it takes to shut down the ever-organizing Jihadist’s and other nuts around the world.
It is in 7 Billion+ people’s best interests to totally shut down ALL the growing crazies and if it takes some unconventional means to do so…let us begin now, not later. The gutless Left, the ignorant President we have and the lack of WILL we demonstrate is becoming catastrophic to our nation’s future AND TO OTHER NATIONS AS WELL..!
Lift all the stupid, global sanctions on all the major powers tomorrow, Iran included, so commerce is flowing smoothly again and unity will mean more than a parade of unified, Latte drinkers in Paris today.
Hit the Jihad, Mafia-like, CRIMINAL movement hard. Choke off ALL their terrorist funding and quickly imprison those who fund them here and abroad. Fill up Guantanamo Bay, Cuba with all the bastards they let go, any new Jihadist’s we don’t kill and ALL those who fund them. At one time there were over 180,000 unregulated $$$ transfer points in the USA alone, many used by Jihad personnel here and abroad.
Shut down all Jihadist Internet access, all their travel, cell communications and begin a scorched earth air/special forces campaign on ALL of their strongholds around the clock wherever they hide and plan. Use drones, C-130 gunships, naval ship based missiles, no-fly zones and forget collateral damage for awhile. Just go get it done with a unity of purpose as it’s in ALL of the world’s nations best interests to do so. Not with a series of pacifying rules and regulations that embolden the lunatics..!
Forget politics, religion, political correctness, GMO, green energy, funny light bulbs, low flow toilets, deep outer space adventures, calories, Big Gulp sodas, climate change, pipelines, highways, bridges, lead paint and solar power.
Stop wasting time on appeasing Media outlets to follow biased thinking. Unify nations like was done in World War II but with all the major powers coming together this time to stamp out ALL Islamic Jihad movements.
Hillary, appease-the-enemy-with-our-empathy, Clinton…once said, “It takes a village”…Umm, ok…but now it’s takes the world powers ”VILLAGE” to unite or Jihad will spread over the coming years like cancer spreads in the human body. It is just beginning and can be stopped now…but that will require courage, guts, stamina, UNITY and serious WILL. Not the Internet…not social media and not just a lot of talk, hand wringing, flowers and saber rattling.
Hmmm, 90,000 French cops, 100,000 French Military ++ other’s…and she still got away ~ ! Just one, murderous, female criminal. That’s all she is, a criminal…but Media elevated her to a Terrorist and our entire globe is almost wobbling off it’s axis over her…!
D.W. ‘Bud’ Biddle
Chief of Police, CA-r
Hiding Under My Bed, from My Own Leaders..!
PS…Have you ever wondered why the LIBERAL LEFT is so adamant about protecting Islam’s Rights when Islam is the most CONSERVATIVE of all political movements there is or ever has been…? “NO”, you say..? Well, it is….so funny that FACT…?
GREAT article, and a wake-up call to EITHER side of the aisle.
Rambling and incoherent.
Its not at all rambling and incoherent. Bud is a pretty darn good writer in my opinion. He is very clued in when it comes to law enforcement issues and his opinion ought to be valued, not scorned.
I recall this area in Chicago’s Southside where white people were not safe after dark. Cops were few and far apart in this neighborhood too. It was really dangerous for cops, firemen, deliverymen, etc.
He goes from Muslims to “Illegal’s” to Native American casinos to the Mafia and, skimming through, even manages to get in a dig at Hilary Clinton, all while abusing the English language and basic punctuation and grammar throughout. This is not trenchant analysis; this is mindless screaming.
I mean, what is this supposed to mean:
“Never mind that we have cities in decay while we galavant about Mars with ego driven, NASA frivolity in our outer space, trillion dollar dreams looking for NOTHING but little green men [-and little green women of course-]…! FORGET WE KEEP LEGALIZING DOPE FOR GARNERING MORE TAXES.”
This reads like Sarah Palin having a stroke.
Even if you already agree with Biddle’s ideology, I don’t see how this screed could be viewed as persuasive or even publishable.
The great stupid one with the attention deficit disorder passes judgement. *YAWN*
Googling Bud Biddle I found this article from Post Scripts published a few years ago. I actually found a lot to agree with in this one. If it weren’t for the inimitable writing style I wouldn’t have believed it was the same guy.
http://www.norcalblogs.com/postscripts/2012/02/15/by-bud-biddle-chief-of/
A reminder of US No-Go Zones from this 2012 article.
Dearborn No-Go Zone: Where Islam Rules and Christians Are Stoned:
“With the stoning of Christians in broad daylight in Dearborn while local law enforcement officers stood by refusing to protect them, No Go Zones — places where the Constitutional law no longer is enforced — have arrived in America.”
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/dearborn-no-go-zone-where-islam-rules-and-christians-are-stoned
Peggy, I could only stomach the first five minutes of that video and while I don’t condone the throwing of objects at protesters, this incident at the Arab Festival hardly supports the “no go zones” narrative.
No go zones are supposed to be communities where whites and Christians are not welcome as a matter of principle. There is no evidence that this is the case here; these protesters weren’t attacked for being white or Christian, they were attacked for being jerks who decided to ruin a fun family outing with their aggressive and unwelcome street preaching.
If it were a Muslim protest group holding signs about how Catholics were going to burn in a “lake of fire” at a Hispanic festival I would expect the same thing to happen. That wouldn’t indicate that Hispanics or Catholics are inherently violent or that Muslims aren’t welcome in Hispanic/Catholic neighborhoods. It would only indicate that people don’t particularly like being told they are going to hell when they are trying to enjoy a soft pretzel with their families.
There used to be a street preacher who came to Fresno State with similar signs. He would sometimes call women whores as they walked to and from class. Free speech is free speech but I wouldn’t have blamed anyone for decking this guy.
Also, you realize that not all Arabs are Muslim, right? According to this Christian Arab writer, the majority of the Arab Festival’s attendees are Christian:
http://www.creators.com/opinion/ray-hanania/extremist-groups-ground-detroit-s-arab-festival.html
I see this blog as being similar to a group of neighbors yakking across the back fence. We come from different backgrounds and experiences and that’s the way I like it. I’d like to keep it like that.
Now, I imagine that Bud Biddle has dealt with plenty of snot-nosed, smart-assed adolescence and jerks in his long years on the force and therefore can easily take this pretentious tongue lashing in stride. But I don’t much appreciate seeing Chris’s red penciled remarks liberally slashed across the comments of other guests here.
Just thought I’d share that with you.
The funny thing about Arab Christians is that they have no problem integrating into their adoptive nations and abiding by the laws of those nations.
Only Muslims have those problems.
Thanks Peggy!
Chris, I guess you missed this part of the transcript.
“An unruly crowd of many dozens of Arab Muslim Festival-goers, both men and women, old and young, and including children became verbally abusive and then physically violent with the Christians, pushing, shoving, and hurling objects at them that included bottles, eggs, and rocks.
Clearly visible on the video are images of dozens of these projectiles that came flying at the Christians, whose grunts of pain at being struck are as clearly audible as the shrieking mob’s chants of “Allahu Akbar.”
Repeatedly, the Christians asked for protection from Wayne County Sheriff’s Department (WCSD) officers who were present at the melee and, repeatedly, they were denied that protection. WCSD Deputy Chief Mike Jaafar, whose implausible excuses for inaction were caught in their entirety on the video, steadfastly refused to provide even one or two law enforcement officers to defend American citizens who were clearly in imminent danger of physical injury.”
And yes Chris, I am aware that there are Arab Christians. I doubt many were at the festival in 2012 or they surely would have come to the aide of the Christians who were being attacked that year.
Chris you would expect “the same” at a Hispanic festival? Really?
How little you must think of these Hispanic Americans!
As you yourself seemed to indicate about the “preacher who came to Fresno State,” the reaction from students was to ignore him. That’s what most Americans do in a situation like that.
These Americans, or American guests (?), didn’t do that. Instead they behaved as if they were residing in Iran or Syria.
There is an obvious cultural difference in this Dearborn area…and those people throwing rocks, food and other items while screaming their brains out obviously haven’t assimilated. These Arabs WERE Muslims, or they were doing a very good job of imitating them:
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At least some of the Hispanics in your little equivalent scenario would probably be arrested and charged with some crime like assault if they behaved like that. And oh yes, had they yelled as the mob did in Dearborn:
It would be assumed that they had radical or extremist tendencies.
The violent group may not represent everyone in attendance but they clearly thought they were in authority. they thought they had a right to hold a festival on public grounds in America and control who attends and what happens there. That’s not how it works here and you should know that.
You should also wonder what is preventing Dearborn police officers, Americans one assumes, from doing their jobs as they would in any other neighborhood. But then, you being you, wouldn’t notice much less think it off! You are too busy imagining that fellow Americans, conservatives and Christians, are bigots and the bigger enemy.
Pie Guevara: “The funny thing about Arab Christians is that they have no problem integrating into their adoptive nations and abiding by the laws of those nations.
Only Muslims have those problems.”
There is no evidence whatsoever for this ludicrous claim. Muslims are no more likely to break the law than any other group. This statement is therefore bigoted, because you are making an assumption about Muslim criminality with no factual evidence to back it up.
Peggy: “And yes Chris, I am aware that there are Arab Christians. I doubt many were at the festival in 2012 or they surely would have come to the aide of the Christians who were being attacked that year.”
Why? Maybe they wanted the street preachers gone too. Most Christians don’t agree with the crazies who show up to public events ranting about hell.
Tina: “How little you must think of these Hispanic Americans!”
Well, not “anchor baby” low, but it’s not a competition.
What I have is the opinion that if you go to a cultural festival for the sole purpose of insulting and denigrating the culture being celebrated, you are probably going to get things thrown at you. If I went to an Irish festival and started denigrating their customs, the least I would hope for would be a few thrown eggs and frisbees.
It has nothing to do with assimilation. Groups of white people have rioted over stupid crap like football games and the firing of child molester Joe Paterno. Is that evidence that white people as a group are having trouble “assimilating” into American law and culture?
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/11/white-people-rioting-for-no-reason.html
The city of Dearborn ended up issuing a public apology to the Christian protesters. If this community were really a hair’s breath from descending into sharia law, do you really think this would have happened?
The protesters got exactly what they wanted in this incident. They provoked an angry reaction on purpose, and now they get to act like they’re being persecuted for following the most widely practiced religion in America. People like this aren’t evangelizing in the spirit of outreach, they’re just trolls.
Thank you Tina for bringing us back on topic, which was my intent with the Dearborn article I posted. What happened during that festival should be a red flag warning that these No-Go zones are developing and Sharia law is replacing US laws.
Also, remember the state’s court ruled in favor for the high school in Morgan Hill, Ca that wouldn’t allow American flag shirts worn by students during a Mexican holiday because it might be disruptive and create a hostile situation. I do find the inconsistencies of local law enforcement between Dearborn and Morgan Hill note worthy. Do US laws only apply to “Americans” and not to those here from other countries who have not become citizens yet and/or wish to not assimilate into the US culture?
Applause for this Muslim speaking out.
European Mayor Has a Strong Message for Those Who Don’t Like Freedom: ‘Pack Your Bags,’ ‘Leave’ and ‘F*** Off’:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/01/13/this-muslim-mayor-has-no-patience-for-immigrants-who-cant-take-a-joke/
Peggy: “What happened during that festival should be a red flag warning that these No-Go zones are developing and Sharia law is replacing US laws.”
Except that that doesn’t make any sense.
Again: these people were not attacked for being Christians. They were attacked for being jerks. There is no evidence that non-Christians were not welcome to attend this Arab festival; in fact, that claim isn’t even remotely plausible given that the majority of Arabs in Michigan are Christian.
Can you explain what’s wrong with the above argument?
Chris: “Muslims are no more likely to break the law than any other group.”
They ARE in one significant way:
NYT:
Yet another example of extreme religious law taking precedence over the laws of their “adopted” nation. This is NOT an example of assimilation. these people have no business living in our nation if they are not going to live by our laws!
An Illustration that there are Muslims here who pretend to be “bridge-builders,” respecting of our laws who are flat out deceivers:
The issue is not criminality, which any race or creed can be numbered, the issue is assimilation and respect for our laws and constitution. Pie’s statement is NOT bigoted; it is honest, truthful, and NOT BOUND by the idiocy of political correctness.
“Most Christians don’t agree with the crazies who show up to public events ranting about hell.”
But they would stand by while Muslims “crazies” throwing things and yelling Allahu Akbar behaved in an unruley and criminal manner?
Man your priorities suck! Muslims fanatics are a protected class in your America? There is no such thing as free speech and public spaces in your America?
Do you even know what country you’re in?
“…it’s not a competition.”
Your dismissive tactic hasn’t escaped notice.
“…if you go to a cultural festival for the sole purpose of insulting and denigrating the culture being celebrated, you are probably going to get things thrown at you.”
First of all your opinion about their motive is just that! You are not a mind reader nor do you get to speak for others. Second, I ask again, what country do you think you are living in? It’s a public space. Throwing things at people just because you don’t appreciate their message, especially if they are not being forceful with that message, IS NOT acceptable behavior in America. Yelling Allahu Akbar and throwing projectiles with the potential to injure or kill moves into very dangerous criminal territory and is definitely not acceptable. These people were not handled as rioters and unruly people are handled; they were allowed to behave according to their religious law unhindered.
“Groups of white people have rioted over stupid crap like football games and the firing of child molester Joe Paterno. Is that evidence that white people as a group are having trouble “assimilating…”
Are you deaf and blind?
1. NOBODY has said every Muslim has refused to assimilate except YOU when you accuse others of bigotry!
2. Your example is stupid because white people get arrested in such instances as they should!
” If this community were really a hair’s breath from descending into sharia law, do you really think this would have happened?”
Glad they did but your question is silly. The point is radical Muslims are not being treated like other American citizens. The point in holding them to the same standard is to support them in assimilating or if they refuse, showing them the door. There is no reason we MUST accept people into our country of any race or creed that does not intend to accept our laws and assimilate.
“…and now they get to act like they’re being persecuted for following the most widely practiced religion in America. People like this aren’t evangelizing in the spirit of outreach, they’re just trolls.”
Spoken like a good little Dhimmi.
They were peacefully exercising their right, as Americans, to hold a sign in a public square. That some of the Muslims didn’t appreciate it is understandable but also too damn bad.
You are simply clueless.
Sorry, the above should say:
There is no evidence that Christians were not welcome to attend this Arab festival; in fact, that claim isn’t even remotely plausible given that the majority of Arabs in Michigan are Christian.
Peggy: ” Do US laws only apply to “Americans” and not to those here from other countries who have not become citizens yet and/or wish to not assimilate into the US culture?”
I know you already know the answer to this rhetorical question but the question is still the point in all of this. Unless freedom and our rule of law is applied evenly people from other nations and cultures will NOT assimilate.
The extremists in Dearborn were allowed to bring their radical practices to American streets without consequences; that only encourages more of the same behavior.
You would think the teacher would recognize the importance of a lesson.
Tina: “The extremists in Dearborn were allowed to bring their radical practices to American streets without consequences”
What “radical practices?” You honestly think throwing bottles at pushy jerks is a uniquely foreign pastime? Have you SEEN pictures of riots started by groups of white people? Your attempts to racialize this incident are ridiculous.
The “extremists” were the people who decided that it would be a good idea to go to an Arab Festival and mock Arab culture. I don’t support violence against them, but this was NOT an instance of a “No-Go Zone” nor was it anti-Christian bigotry.
Chris: “You honestly think throwing bottles at pushy jerks is a uniquely foreign pastime”
A. Characterizing the sign holders as “pushy jerks” is not only inaccurate per their behavior but a nasty attempt to paint them in a negative light in order to justify your ridiculous position.
B. The issue isn’t just that they were throwing bottles an rocks, it is also that they accompanied the potentially lethal acts with what has become a Muslim war cry. But more importantly, they were allowed to get away with it, which is the same as legally condoning what amounts to assault with intent to do bodily harm. The larger point is they are not behaving as Americans are supposed to behave…free speech matters, especially in the public square.
C. If that is what you thought I was saying you didn’t get it.
You will say anything to avoid acknowledging the problems that plague not only the religion but the entire free world.
“I don’t support violence against them, but this was NOT an instance of a “No-Go Zone” nor was it anti-Christian bigotry”
Oh? How would you characterize the behavior of these representatives of the “Religion of Peace?”
And why do you presume to know what is in the minds of complete strangers?
First you imagined the motives of the Christians and now you imagine you can see into the minds of the bottle and rock throwers. Isn’t that a bit absurd, Chris?
Re Chris: “There is no evidence that Christians were not welcome to attend this Arab festival; in fact, that claim isn’t even remotely plausible given that the majority of Arabs in Michigan are Christian.”
Oh really? The majority? And the “majority” were those who were throwing stones and bottles at Christians?
And an army of monkeys may fly out of Obama’s butt.
Tina,
What is absurd is that you continue to criticize every opinion I voice here while refusing to say a single word about Pie Guevara’s constant, flagrant violations of Post Script’s rules that were revised no more than two weeks ago.
His comments have only become more abusive and hateful since you posted these rules, to the point where even one of your conservative readers has said he is considering leaving this site due to being harassed by this poster. I understand why you will not respond to my concerns given our history of heated disagreement, but I hope you will respond to Pete’s concerns.
http://www.norcalblogs.com/postscripts/2015/01/10/obamas-strange-obsession-muslim-immigrants/
Thee is no point in defending my points any further until you address this foul-mouthed bigot who refuses to abide by this site’s regulations.
Chris grow up. I am not your father or your mother and YOU are supposed to be an adult.
I suggest you ignore Pie and while you are at it become more reflective of your own propensity to label, insult, denigrate, monitor and when all else fails, tattle like a school boy.
The posting was made by Jack. As his partner I am as responsible as he is for what is posted to this blog. It frankly is quite annoying that we cannot seem to get past this feud and just be responsible for ourselves. Jack and I enjoy the open, free speech forum we’ve created and we allow fairly broad latitude to all understanding that opposing views can create frustration and contention.
Jack and I have other obligations, you and Pie should both respect that without needing reminders. We do not have time to read your every word before posting…we expect you to do the right thing BEFORE you hit the “submit” button.
Your pouty complaint and veiled threat doesn’t impress me much. Do whatever it is you need to do. If you choose to leave we will miss you but we’ll get over it. None of us is THAT important in the greater scheme of things!
Run Chris run! See Chris run! See the foul, evil bigotry, racism, and liar slur tossing whiner run!
Note that Chris has refused to address any of my retorts to his vile and despicable accusations of bigotry. Run Chris, run!
“The posting was made by Jack. As his partner I am as responsible as he is for what is posted to this blog.”
And yet neither of you act like it because you refuse to enforce your own rules unless it is convenient. What was the point of posting the rules if you had no intention of making the most frequent violator follow them? It just made you look like giant hypocrites.
Pie’s noxious behavior is so far over the line from mine that I can’t believe you would compare the two. The only reason you single me out for criticism and never criticize his a us abusive hate speech is that he agrees with you politically. “Never criticize another Republican,” right?
“…you refuse to enforce your own rules unless it is convenient”
Convenient? In what way? And by the way we expect the participants to be the “enforcers” of the rules and regret it becomes necessary to remind!
We are reluctant to play mommy and daddy for a bunch of adults. You are a problem for the simple fact that you refuse to manage your own problem. You have covertly treated people here like your own personal whipping post but object when you are the overt target of same. Because your insults are disguised as intellectual or informed you think we fail to notice the arrow.
“What was the point of posting the rules”
A reminder to ALL. It isn’t enough for only you. YOU want the power to punish through tattling. YOU want to control and manage. Well, sweety, YOU are being resisted. You are the only person on this sight that runs to teacher (mommy and daddy) to complain and demand punishment. You are not the only person to be deeply insulted or the object of nasty invective. Everyone else manages to deal with obnoxious invective. If they do say something it is simply to put forth an observation which should, if we are adult, also serve as reminder.
“Pie’s noxious behavior is so far over the line from mine ”
I can see why you would think so. I disagree. Pie is simply more up front and states his intent is to mirror what he sees in your comments.
“The only reason you single me out for criticism and never criticize his a us abusive hate speech is that he agrees with you politically.”
Please don’t attempt to speak to my motives; you are terribly bad at it.
It’s true I don’t often criticize Republicans, after all, it’s not often necessary since the left/left media pound Republicans using all of the Alinsky rules 24/7/365. It is not true that I have never criticized Republicans.
One thing you cannot complain about Chris is the latitude we have given you to malign, impugn, and even lie about us or our leadership and party. You choose to participate on a right wing blog and yet imagine you have the power to fix the right wing participants and you attempt to enlist Jack and I to help you by asking us to bend to your will.
There are awful words to describe such dysfunction and arrogance; Pie has used many of them. You are right that they technically break the rules of decorum we expect of our posters. But your own often disrespectful and insulting invective also breaks the rules in spirit. From my perspective you should both up your performance. It is much more informative, enlightening, and entertaining to read what people are thinking than what people think they need to do to silence and bully someone else.
I hope this ends the issue. I have better ways to spend my time.
Tina: “You are the only person on this sight that runs to teacher (mommy and daddy) to complain and demand punishment”
Not true. Pete, a semi-regular conservative commenter, complained to you and Jack about Pie telling him to “drop dead” simply for asking a question. He said that he wasn’t comfortable commenting here any further if Pie’s bullying was going to continue being allowed. You basically ignored him.
Well here’s an interesting update. Just yesterday Daniel Pipes, the critic of Islam who previously took credit for coining the term “no-go zones,” updated a very old post basically taking back a lot of his claims and saying that he now feels this term is “inaccurate:”
I have visited predominantly immigrant (and largely Muslim) areas of Brussels, Copenhagen, Malmö, Stockholm, Berlin, Paris, and Athens. In the case of Paris, I spent time both in Belleville and in such suburbs as Sarcelles, Val d’Oise, and Seine Saint Denis.
Before my travels, I expected these areas to be similar to the worst areas of the United States, such as the Bronx or Detroit, where buildings are decrepit, streets menacing, and outsiders feel distinctly unwelcome.
My experiences starting in 2007 belied this expectation. All the immigrant areas turned out to be well maintained, with safe streets, and no sense of intimidation. I walked around, usually with camera in hand, and felt at ease. I encountered no difficulties at all.
That said, there is a reason why the French government calls these regions sensibles (sensitive, delicate). They contain many social pathologies (unemployment, drugs, political extremism), they seethe with antagonism toward the majority society, and are prone to outbreaks of violence.
So, from an American point of view, these areas are a bit confusing: potentially dangerous, yes, but in normal times very ordinary looking and with no sense of foreboding. Thus, the term no-go zone does not accurately reflect the situation.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2006/11/the-751-no-go-zones-of-france
No No-Go Zones? Really?:
“The Leftist media and Islamic supremacist groups have been doing a victory dance ever since Saturday night, when Fox News issued an apology for statements made on the air by terror expert Steve Emerson and others about Muslim no-go zones in Britain and France. However, the apology doesn’t say what it has widely reported as saying – and there is considerable evidence that Muslim areas in both countries are a growing law enforcement and societal problem.
The only problem with all the cork popping around Fox’s apology was that there is a problem with Muslim areas in Europe – and the Fox apology didn’t go so far as to say there wasn’t. To be sure, the controversy began with undeniably inaccurate statements from Emerson. He said on Fox on January 11 that “there are actual cities like Birmingham that are totally Muslim, where non-Muslims just simply don’t go in.” That is false, and Emerson has acknowledged that and apologized.
However, Emerson was not guilty of fabrication, just of overstatement. Some of the comments on a piece in the UK’s Daily Mail about his gaffe and British Prime Minister David Cameron’s reaction to it (he called Emerson a “complete idiot”) insisted that Emerson was at least partially right: “Just shows cameron doesn’t even know what is happening in this country , as the news presenter is totally correct , its a no go zone .” “There ARE some parts of Birmingham where you darent or shouldn’t go !” “Is he far off the truth? Maybe it’s not true for Birmingham as a whole but there are certain areas where it is true. Certainly it is true of certain other Towns in the UK. Bradford, Leicester, Luton spring to mind.”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/robert-spencer/no-no-go-zones-really/
Here’s another “interesting thing”:
Gatestone Institute:
follow the link to finish reading, pictures included.
Sounds like the radical tyrannical M****M bullies have managed to intimidate pretty thoroughly!
I followed the Gatestone Institute link and it includes no link to either of the “reports” it claims exist. Googling their titles turned up nothing. It also quotes a journalist named Laurent Obertone, a far-right author who has written for the white nationalist journal American Renaissance.
I think you are being played again.