Posted by Jack
Kim Jung Un had NO military experience whatsoever before Daddy
made him a four-star general.
This twerp had never accomplished anything in his
life that would even come close to military leadership.
He hadn’t even so much as led a Cub Scout troop, coached a
sports team, or commanded a military platoon.
So he is made the “Beloved Leader” Of North Korea .
Terrific!!! Oh c%&p! I’m sorry… I just remembered that we did
the same thing.
We took an arrogant phony community organizer, who had never
worn a uniform and made him Commander-in-Chief.
A guy, who had never had a real job, worked on a budget, or led
anything more than an ACORN demonstration, and we made him “Beloved
Leader” of the United States – Twice!!!!!
So if you think North Koreans are stupid… I’m sorry I brought this up…
Never mind!
Jack, plagiarizing a stupid chain e-mail:
“We took an arrogant phony community organizer, who had never worn a uniform and made him Commander-in-Chief”
What the hell is the point here? That no one without military experience should be president? Are you somehow unaware that we’ve had ten other presidents prior to Obama with no military experience, including our second president, John Adams? Are you somehow unaware that most of the Republicans running also have no military experience? This has got to be one of the dumbest critiques of the man yet.
“Never had a real job?” Since when is being a lawyer not a “real job?” Fact Check found that he’s had at least eleven jobs in the private sector; this statement is a lie.
This blog has posted worthwhile articles in the past but this week has just been a non-stop race to the bottom. What brought on this turn to such nasty, petty, stupid explosions of anger? We’ve had a pretty good week as a country; better than most.
But I guess that’s the problem.
Really?
This hate has to stop.
What’s got your Goat? The fact we are not bombing Iran for Bibi? Why all this constant hate?
Like PBO or not the RW has now diminished any respect for any future president by our youth. From here on out the office can be ridiculed in childish ways.
The funniest part here is that nearly this exact same chain e-mail could be written about Ted Cruz–junior senator, lifelong government employee, no military experience, even less private sector experience than Obama–and yet you didn’t think of any of that before you posted it. But hey, if he wins, you have your first article about his presidency ready to go! I’m sure you’ll have the same complaints as you’d never hold someone to a double standard.
The only substantial (and I use that word loosely) part of this meme that doesn’t apply to Cruz is “community organizer,” but then I’ve never particularly understood why so many conservatives see that as such a devastating insult. (Is it code for “uppity black guy?” You can say it now, Obama’s presidency is almost over and Trump has made dogwhistle politics irrelevant.)
“A guy, who had never had a real job, worked on a budget, or led
anything more than an ACORN demonstration, and we made him “Beloved
Leader” of the United States – Twice!!!!!”
Now, Jack, that’s not entirely true. He did help Bill Ayers spend a boat load of money to restore or build low cost housing with their friend Valerie Jarrett. the buildings were in worse shape when they were done but he can still claim to have “worked a budget.”
There’s also the Annenberg money to improve Chicago’s public schools…who knows how much of that money slipped down a rabbit hole in that deal.
Key google words: Lawndale Restoration, Tony Rezco, Altgeld Gardens,
None of it’s true, Tina. He worked eleven private sector jobs prior to becoming a senator. And of course he worked on budgets as senator. This meme isn’t about facts, it’s about tribal signaling.
I got all this from Wiki…
Obama:
Born in Hawaii.
Attended St. Francis of Assisi Catholic School and Besuki Public School then home schooled.
Attended Punahou School, a private college preparatory school, from fifth grade until his graduation from high school.
Moved to Los Angeles in 1979 to attend Occidental College. Later in 1981, he transferred as a junior to Columbia College, Columbia University, in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations. He graduated with a BA degree in 1983 and worked for a year at the Business International Corporation, then at the New York Public Interest Research Group.
Two years after graduating, Obama was hired in Chicago as director of the Developing Communities Project, a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Roseland, West Pullman, and Riverdale on Chicago’s South Side. He worked there as a community organizer from June 1985 to May 1988.
Obama entered Harvard Law School in the fall of 1988. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, president of the journal in his second year, and research assistant to the constitutional scholar Laurence Tribe while at Harvard for two years.
Worked as an associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990. After graduating with a JD degree magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991.
He then taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, first as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and then as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004.
He joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 13-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004.
From 1994 to 2002, Obama served on the boards of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund the Developing Communities Project, and of the Joyce Foundation. He served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995 to 2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995 to 1999.
Illinois State Senator 1997–2004.
U.S. Senator from Illinois 2005–2008.
U.S. President 2009 – 2016
Kim Jung Un was born in North Korea
BTW…Military experience is not a requirement to be elected president. Which is a good thing for our current Republican and Democratic front runners.
Wow Jack,
These aren’t your words. They are from:
http://politicsandfinance.blogspot.com/2016/01/flashback-sad-humor-kim-jong-un-and.html?m=1
I’m hoping your account was hacked.
Unfortunately, Pete, this isn’t the first time Jack has copy-pasted a chain e-mail or Facebook meme without attribution, and every time I’ve called him on it his reaction has been “So what?”
It’d be one thing if the meme were actually worth sharing, but as previously noted, it’s absolute crap.
So don’t read it, if thats what you think. This was sent to me in an email without attribution. I thought it was funny and put it up, so what? You should pick your battles more carefully, this is not worth dueling over.
Translation: “I can’t defend what I posted, because it was dishonest, hypocritical, and plagiarized. So just go away and stop pointing that out, it’s harshing my mellow.”
I expect better of you, Jack.
No Pete, these are not my words. It came via the email.
Do you really feel like you had no obligation to point that out when you posted it?
More fun for the conservatives at PS. According to Wikipedia Business International Corporation was a “publishing and advisory firm dedicated to assisting American companies in operating abroad.”
That should set Dewey’s hair on fire.
Pete (Chris) seem to have missed the word “humor” in that link Pete posted.
None of the law firm jobs have anything to do with budgets accept maybe in the community economic development projects. Little changed or improved in Chicago; the millions that were spent/managed was either wasted or pocketed(politics). Tony Rezco was part of some of that and we know where he ended up. Chicago politics. Let’s pretend Obama wasn’t part of, and promoted by, that mess.
Chris we have had other presidents who never served in the military. Most served during periods of relative peace. And none, except Obama, stated his purpose was to “fundamentally transform” America.
Tina,
Calling something “fun” and “humor” does not give one permission to lie. There were several claims made here that were clearly not intended to be taken as jokes, but as facts. Saying “Obama has never had any private sector experience” isn’t a joke; it’s a LIE. The author of the meme clearly wants people to believe that this is true, when it’s not. And it’s a commonly repeated conservative lie even in supposedly serious articles, so brushing it off as a joke doesn’t fly. Some may find it “fun” to revel in ignorance and dishonesty, but to those who don’t find it fun, it’s embarrassing to watch.
“Chris we have had other presidents who never served in the military. Most served during periods of relative peace. And none, except Obama, stated his purpose was to “fundamentally transform” America.”
Irrelevant, since the meme said nothing about the “fundamental transformation” line, and instead implied that Obama’s lack of service in and of itself is enough to make voters “stupid” for voting for him. You can’t just bring in completely unrelated objections to Obama to justify the false and irrelevant objections in this meme.
I don’t like Ted Cruz for many reasons, but that doesn’t make the ludicrous attacks on his citizenship and eligibility any less stupid. You don’t seem to understand that when you reach for such bad arguments against a political argument, it makes you look like you don’t have any good arguments to rely on. This has always been your Achilles heel; you think saying anything and everything is justified as long as it meets the goal of opposing Obama and the Democrats. This has led you to make so many bad and disproven arguments (Obamacare bans mammograms, unemployment might be 30-42%, death panels, and the list goes on) so many times that I can’t believe you haven’t caught on to this rhetorical weakness. Sometimes, like in this case, you go nearly as far as saying that the truth doesn’t matter as long as you and your conservative friends can have “fun.”
There are plenty of legitimate reasons to bash Obama. You don’t need to reach for fake ones. So why do you?
Tina,
The first line in the original site states, “This joke (not really a joke)…”
One can be confused when this is left out of Jack’s post. Especially when Jack places his by line at the top. I’m not Obama’s biggest fan, but many people believe that Obama has only ever been a community organizer. This is clearly not true. Repeat a lie often enough and, to many people, it becomes fact…a tactic used by both Democrats and Republicans.
Pete I hate to be the one to point out the obvious, but I guess must. The point of this was more about being a military leader and what a joke both of these characters – they zero military experience and yet here they are in charge of the military.
JACK. READ.
The “point” you refer to has been addressed. The point was stupid. The point was hypocritical. The point was dishonest.
I’ll try one more time, and then I’ll have to conclude that it would be better to talk to a wall:
Our country has had many presidents who have never had any military experience. Our country currently has many candidates, on both sides of the aisle, running for president who have had no military experience. At least one of them, Ted Cruz, has no military experience AND less private sector experience than Obama. And yet he still has a lot of support here, and neither he nor John Adams nor any other president or candidate lacking military experience has ever been compared to Kim Jong-un by you or anyone else here.
Why is that? I’ll tell you why: Because no one here, not even you, really believes that someone must have military experience to be president. You only pretended to believe that, because the “joke” didn’t work without that premise, and you’ll sacrifice pretty much every drop of integrity for the sake of an anti-Obama punchline.
Stop pretending to believe things you don’t actually believe. Stop acting like your arguments haven’t been addressed when they have. Stop ignoring the obvious, even after it’s been pointed out to you, and then accusing others of doing the same. It’s embarrassing.
Also, you ignored Pete’s point that the meme lied about Obama’s lack of private sector experience. Why? Do lies not matter to you as long as they’re told in support of a narrative you favor?
No Jack,
The point is you posted without noting it was a joke and from an email you received. And if you feel that our President be a former member of our military then you should have mentioned it during the constitutional conventions. (Come on…That’s funny)
Tina
You Really do not get it. In the real world we know the facts. We actually do something when we do not like a policy.
Why would my hair be on fire? Right Wing propaganda is just that.
It is time to stop this hate fest. The world is watching us. You are so deep into these blogs and the Koch agenda you can not see reality.
“Transform America” That is what the Tea Party wants. A study has found the common thread in the Republican base. They found the only common thread is they like authoritarianism.
Makes sense they hate everyone and everything that does not conform to their ideology.
Stop the Hate. Try having real discussions instead of this propaganda fest.
http://wtop.com/politics/2016/01/uk-lawmakers-to-debate-banning-donald-trump/
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/a-poisonous-corrosive-man-watch-this-british-mp-bring-the-hammer-down-on-trumps-violent-ideology/
Dewey, you don’t get it. This was created by somebody other than Post Scripts. I just put it up because of the humorous comparison, which although factual, we know Obama is no Kim Jung Un…Un is a decisive leader! lol
It was neither “humorous” nor “factual,” as has already been pointed out by both Pete and myself. Obama has worked in the private sector; the meme claims he never has; ergo, you posted a lie, and you should retract it.
As for humorous, the main thrust of the comparison is that neither Jong-un nor Obama has had any military experience. The ridiculousness of this comparison has been made clear, and should have been clear to you before you posted it; lack of military service is not and never has been disqualifying for the presidency, and if it were, you’d have to conclude that half your candidates would be disqualified.
There was nothing honest or funny in the meme you plagiarized. It was made by dishonest idiots for dishonest idiots.
Dewey, hate is something you spew here on a regular basis. The left has been making a “joke” of republicans for decades. Your whining is a bit hypocritical and incredibly annoying.
Advice from you?
Fagetaboudit!
I’d love to have a discussion but all you do is gripe and order others around; this is not amenable to discussion.
I find it interesting that on this blog it is the progressives that order others about and tell others how to think and what to believe…and we’re the authoritarians? What a joke!
As for the many Tea Party organizations that Dewey seems to need to hate there is nothing to fear and much to consider for anyone who is concerned for the future of our children and our nation. A sampling:
tetonvalleyteaparty.com
teapartyinspace.org
teasparty.org
teapartypatriots.org – (scroll down)
teapartyexpress
http://www.freedomworks.org/content/first-principles-tea-party-focuses-gop-platform-limited-government“>freedomworks.org First Principles
nhteapartycoalition.org – New Hampshire
theteaparty.net
teaparty911.com
texasteaparty.com
24thstate.com:
As you can see from the above sampling of tea party organizations from across the country “The Tea Party” is a loosely affiliated group of Americans concerned about the direction our country has taken and interested in returning it to the principles of our founding: freedom, personal responsibility, free markets, small government, balanced budgets, low taxes and responsible government spending. We don’t all express this commitment in exactly the same words, which is why Dewey’s specious accusation that Tea Party folk wish to “fundamentally transform” America is absurd.
On the other hand the socialists of every stripe in this nation have been about the business of fundamentally transforming our republic into a European style, socialist nation for many decades. Their efforts have led to great dependency on government, high taxation, gross debt (currently greater than production), and a diminishing ability to remain strong economically leaving our children with a much darker future.
Many Tea Party people are Conservatives, although it is not a requirement. We do not ask anyone to conform. Conservatives believe in the principle of free will…individuals are free to choose their own lifestyles, professions, hobbies and interests. This idea is Biblical but our founders did not require anyone to be a Christian or Jew to live in the United States…nor does the Tea Party. Thus, authoritarianism is antithetical to Tea Party principles.
Many of us also believe it’s fundamental to our future and survival to uphold and respect the rule of law and the purposes behind basic standards of social behavior, i.e., respecting authority, being polite, adopting a live and let live attitude, respecting boundaries, respecting differences, honoring each man’s castle, etc.
To hear Dewey tell it these would be unreasonable principles. I challenge him to a discussion about any of them ONE AT A TIME. I will not address rambling screeds.
And look, I know this seems like small potatoes compared to many of the much bigger lies being told to our nation. But this kind of thing, and the half-hearted defenses of it, actively makes the world worse. Essentially, the only defense offered is that this meme makes some conservatives feel good about themselves, and the liberals pointing out that it’s both untrue and hypocritical are just nitpicking and ruining a good fun time.
Well sorry, but whatever feelings of comfort and group membership/belonging this meme gave you are not more important than the truth. By endorsing this meme, you’re saying you don’t care about the truth, you just care about saying things that help you fit in with your in-group. That’s poisonous, Jack. We have enough of that in the world, on both the right and the left.
I saw a meme, shared mostly by liberals last week, that said if we split the Powerball evenly, we could give everyone 4.33 million dollars. In reality, it actually divided up to $4.33. But the liberals (and fewer conservatives) who shared it didn’t bother to check the math. All that mattered is it made them feel good and fit their narrative that wealth could so easily be restructured without any problems, like magic. Even after I corrected one of my liberal friends about it, her response was basically “Well, it would be nice if it were true!” Or, as the other Jack at Ethics Alarms put it, the “Dan Rather Defense:” “It’s not true, but it should be.”
Bias makes people stupid, and this meme, like the Powerball one, is designed to exploit that.
Stop helping make the world stupider.
“…this kind of thing, and the half-hearted defenses of it, actively makes the world worse.”
Questionable. Prior to politically correct thought and radical left activism Americans had the ability to tease each other and joke about our differences without taking it so seriously.
On the other hand, having been on the other end of this kind of humor for over fifty years in can honestly say that I would personally be happy to comply with your desires just as soon as you can convince the radicals on the left to sign on.
“By endorsing this meme, you’re saying you don’t care about the truth, you just care about saying things that help you fit in with your in-group.”
Chris you’ve been reading Jacks posts here for how many years? (YEARS!) And you still don’t get that Jack cares about the truth?
Tina, most all here understand Jack addressed it, Its humor, just as snarky maybe as using the words “plagiarizing or stupider”, when words other then those, which are intentionally used to insult, for what just to make the same point. There are other words to express ones feelings with much less of a demining bite. If you don’t like say so. and don’t carp so much.
My take about the continuous negative posting about Jack using a satirical humorist comparison. Jack has said he left out things, or they were not included in the email he received.
The bulk of the negative posts are just repetitive nauseating anal retentive spew.
This happens when someone’s world is beginning to collide with what is being recognized by voters about the reality of political failures because of the ideology of those currently in office. I.E. Obama
Maybe its time to close the door on the redundancy of this post, much like I would like to hasten the close of Obamas last term of office if possible, or just take away his pen and suggest he work as diligently on his golf handicap, much in the same fervor he is using to handicapped America.
As Jack says Worst President ever!
Harold: “Tina, most all here understand Jack addressed it, Its humor, just as snarky maybe as using the words “plagiarizing or stupider”, when words other then those, which are intentionally used to insult, for what just to make the same point. There are other words to express ones feelings with much less of a demining bite.”
I’m sorry you found my comments politically incorrect. But it’s simply a fact that Jack plagiarized, not “snark.” I don’t believe in using weasel words; I call things as they are.
I also find the act of plagiarizing worse than criticism of plagiarism. But that’s just me.
Tina: “Questionable. Prior to politically correct thought and radical left activism Americans had the ability to tease each other and joke about our differences without taking it so seriously.”
What “differences?”
Again, the things that this joke says make Obama different either a) aren’t true or b) aren’t different. Obama has more private sector experience than Ted Cruz, and plenty of presidents have no military experience.
It’s a bad joke, because it isn’t based on true premises.
Even your defense of it is dishonest, because you say it’s based on “differences” Obama and other candidates, when Pete and I have already clearly shown you that the differences it claims do not exist.
Like I said: this makes the world dumber.
See here and here for many jokes told in an earlier time that would have made everyone laugh.
“Obama has more private sector experience than Ted Cruz”
Obama has experience in the same profession as Cruz.
Cruz resume includes:
In high school Ted gave speeches based on his studies of Mises & Hayek.
He studied at Princeton and graduated from Harvard Law School magna cum laude.
He served as the Solicitor General of Texas from 2003 to May 2008.
In private practice Cruz worked at the law firm Cooper & Kirk. He llater became a partner at Morgan, Lewis &Bockius LLP in Houston, where he lead the firm’s U.S. Supreme Court and national Appellate Litigation practice.
In addition, from 2004-09, he taught U.S. Supreme Court Litigation as an Adjunct Professor of Law at the University of Texas School of Law.
Prior to his campaign for senator Ted served from 2003 to 2008 as the Solicitor General of Texas.
In January 2011, Cruz filed to run for U.S. Senate
Ted Cruz has authored over 80 U.S. Supreme Court briefs and personally argued 40 oral arguments, including 9 before the U.S. Supreme Court. During his service as Solicitor General, Texas achieved an unprecedented series of landmark national victories, and he has been nationally recognized on multiple occasions for his legal skills.
Cruz also worked on the George Bush campaign including drafting the winning argument in Bush v. Gore.
He was an Associate Deputy Attorney General, US Department of Justice and a Domestic Policy Advisor in the Bush White House.
He was Director of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission.
I disagree that the joke “isn’t based on true premises.” There are several that apply.
1. The President had no military experience
2. The President was helped and promoted in his political career.
3. The President is arrogant
4. He was a community organizer
5. Evidence that he worked on a budget is slim. His record in funded community projects isn’t positive.
You may not like it. Can’t blame you for that. I didn’t much like it when the left referred to Reagan as an “amiable dunce” again and again. That’s politics. As long as there is a space for both sides to duke it out it’s at least an even playing field. when the left was pulling this stuff on Reagan he was on his own…he did a bang up job of handling it too.
“Even your defense of it is dishonest, because you say it’s based on “differences” Obama and other candidates”
No, I said Americans once had the ability to tease each other and joke about our differences. I did not say this was email was “based on differences.”
My exact words:
There are so many heavy issues for us to consider. Do you honestly think that people are so dim that they can’t tell the difference between a joke and a serious discussion? Do you really think so little of your fellow Americans that you believe they can’t take a time out to laugh a little without “making the world dumber?”
And do you really want to live in a world where speech is managed so heavily that people are afraid to say anything?
You should see the movie, “Das Leben der Anderen” (The Lives of Others). See here for full plot summary.
I’m not saying this is where we are as a country but various incidents on college campuses around the country certainly demonstrate the mind set that could lead to this kind of authoritarian control.
Lighten up.
Tina: “You may not like it. Can’t blame you for that. I didn’t much like it when the left referred to Reagan as an “amiable dunce” again and again. That’s politics.”
You are equating an insult with a lie. This meme stated that Obama had no private sector experience. This is a lie that has been repeated many times by conservatives, in serious discussions. The idea that this part of the meme was just a joke, not to be taken seriously, does not hold up.
“No, I said Americans once had the ability to tease each other and joke about our differences. I did not say this was email was “based on differences.””
It’s like you don’t even know what your own words mean. Unless this e-mail was based on differences between Obama and other candidates, then your comment “Americans once had the ability to tease each other and joke about our differences” is completely irrelevant to the discussion. If the e-mail wasn’t based on such differences, then what the heck was the point of even writing that sentence? You’re not making any sense, because there is no way to make sense out of this awful meme.
“this kind of humor”
Humor is based on truth, not lies. This joke relies on the premise that military experience is a prerequisite for the presidency; Jack said so himself. Therefore, the joke fails the MOMENT one remembers that military experience is not a requirement for the presidency, and that NO ONE SHARING THE MEME ACTUALLY BELIEVES IT DOES.
The joke is designed for people who WON’T think about that, because it’s designed for people who don’t think. Even after pointing this out to Jack, he just kept repeating the point about military experience, as if he was somehow unable to read and process what Pete and I said. It’s a stupid joke, for people who let their biases make them stupid.
“Do you honestly think that people are so dim that they can’t tell the difference between a joke and a serious discussion?”
I know for a fact that there are plenty of Ameriicans who truly believe Obama had no private sector experience before becoming president, because that’s what conservative blogs–including this one–have told them, in serious discussion, and they didn’t bother to check the facts. I’d bet good money a lot of the people on this website fall into that category.
Tell me, Tina–did you know before I told you that Obama had private sector experience? Or did you believe the meme’s mention of that was factual?
“And do you really want to live in a world where speech is managed so heavily that people are afraid to say anything?”
1) The only way I’ve “managed” your speech is by criticizing it. Given that in this case, the speech in question was (in the case of the “no private sector experience” charge) untruthful and (in the case of the “no military experience” charge) hypocritical, this was perfectly just.
2) The only things I think people should be “afraid” of when speaking their minds are the natural social consequences for telling obvious lies. This includes criticism and ridicule. That is fair and normal. I have proposed no restrictions on speech, no violence, and no economic damage against people who tell lies; I have only criticized those lies. To act as if I am therefore infringing on your right to speak, or proposing any kinds of restrictions, is preposterous.
I really can’t believe how long this conversation has gone on. Let’s look at what a rational conversation would look like:
Jack: *posts meme alleging Obama voters are stupid because he had no private sector or military experience*
Pete and I: Actually, Obama did have private sector experience, and lots of presidents have never had military experience; many if not the majority of the Republican candidates don’t have that either. Also you should really cite your sources.
Jack: True, I should have thought about that before posting. Obama was still unprecedentedly unqualified for [X reason], and he’s a terrible president, but the reasons in this joke meme don’t make a lot of sense.
Me: Cool. I disagree about [X reason], but I respect you for admitting this meme is erroneous.
Wouldn’t that have been nicer?
I’ve had friends correct me when I post memes that are untrue. I take it with gratitude. Finding out that you’re wrong about something can be a positive thing. Digging in your heels and making excuses just makes the situation more embarrassing.
Chris writes,” I really can’t believe how long this conversation has gone on. Let’s look at what a rational conversation would look like” that is a excellent observation and suggestion.
Of all the prior 31 posts, 15 belong to Chris, with post#1 being the catalyst that caused the extended replies, however Chris is on to something, this should have been approached in a more civil manor.
Had post number 1 not been so bluntly demeaning and more like the rebuttal in Chris’s post 31, most likely this would have been more informative too everyone.
What it evolved into is a result of the writing style and demining words used in a berating manor in post #1, hence no one could be expected to accept that type of critic with gratitude.
But I guess that’s the problem!…. (I’ll admit to plagiarizing that remark),
Possibly this may be a lesson well taught as posted in # 31, it remains to seen if it will be continued by Chris in the future.
Can’t we all just get along, and Hope and Change (oops did it again, so another 2 admissions to plagiarizing).
However so as not to cause resurgence of rebuttals, the last two plagiarized admissions were just intended to be humorist, really!
Harold, I can’t say you don’t have a point. My corrections to this post were very tough. I still believe they were fair, but I can’t be surprised that people reacted by doubling down instead of reflecting.
However, Pete was much more polite than I was, and his rebuttals to the post still went ignored. I’ve tried before to be kinder in my corrections to factual errors, and it typically hasn’t gotten me much further than this. At this point I’m just angry to see plagiarism, dishonesty, and hypocrisy, and I think I have a right to be. I’d say I would try to be more respectful in my disagreement, but that would imply that I think we’re talking about issues over which people can disagree, rather than facts. It’s a fact that Obama does have private sector experience; it’s a fact that military experience is not a prerequisite to the presidency; and it’s a fact that Jack doesn’t actually believe that it is, otherwise he wouldn’t say he’d support Trump or Cruz.
Facts don’t become irrelevant just because they’re delivered in an angry or condescending manner. Aren’t you asking for political correctness–the very thing you decry so often?
You can count on me to continue being tough whenever people say things they don’t really mean.
Harold you are a fun guy! Very observant too. Thanks.