Posted by Tina
The Democrat Party has started a campaign to convince the American people that it’s only Republicans who are angry and hateful this campaign season. It’s the kind of thing the left always does; blame shifting is a common tactic of the party. Name calling is also a common practice. But there are several problems with this line of attack. One glaring problem is all of the Democrats and Independents that have turned their backs on the Democrat Party, and their candidates Hillary and Bernie. Many of these voters have moved into the Trump camp. The American people are disillusioned, frustrated and angry. Republican voters have loudly voiced their frustration and anger with representatives in their party. But they are also fed up with leadership in general, both democrat and republican. They are fed up with the decisions of President Obama and his administration. They are stunned and angry over the many scandals and affronts, from IRS targeting, to unsecured emails, to events in Benghazi, to outrageous EPA regulations, to NSA spying, to intentional race and class baiting, and more.
Harry Reid made a speech today sounding alarms that Republicans are responsible for rise of Trump, all of the hate, and the danger he poses. I guess he’s forgotten about all the Democrats throughout America that either stayed home rather than vote for Bernie or Hillary or have walked across the aisle to enthusiastically support Donald Trump. I guess he simply overlooked the trail of hatred his party has incited against whites and police officers over the last seven years. I guess he doesn’t realize how malicious it is when his party’s President threatens an entire industry with destruction (coal). I guess in his mind when his party chose to pass a health care law, shutting out Republicans and some Democrats from the process and bribing Democrats to get the required number of votes, it wouldn’t anger the electorate. I guess old Harry has forgotten the way the President and Eric Holder encouraged his party’s support groups in Ferguson, protests that resulted in burned businesses and police officers and innocent citizens becoming targets for assault across America. In fact I guess old Harry would love everyone to do as he has done and shift the blame for the Obama years to the Republican Party. What a slap in the face to the American voter. harry Reid stands before the people to covertly claim his party is not responsible for the state of the nation. He believes we are all that stupid.
The Democrat party is led by radicals and agitators. The Democrat Party celebrates protest, never considering the consequences which are often violent and destructive. The Democrat Party is attempting to convince the American people that when riots occur this summer it will be the fault of the Republican Party and Donald Trump. This might be the best example of the deceit that is part of the foundation of the Democrat Party we’ve seen yet. They have built the strength of their party on such deceitful lies and specious accusations.
The idea that only Republicans are responsible for the tone of this campaign is absurd and Donald Trumps popularity with voters from across the political spectrum is the proof. It’s a darn shame that we the people must endure this campaign of hate, but endure we must. The people are rejecting the past seven and a half years of Democrat fundamental transformation, job loses, a sluggish economy, scandals, oppression, and congressional dysfunction and betrayal.
“One glaring problem is all of the Democrats and Independents that have turned their backs on the Democrat Party, and their candidates Hillary and Bernie. Many of these voters have moved into the Trump camp.”
How many? The numbers I’ve seen show that Democrat support of Trump is incredibly low. I think you are massively inflating the support Trump has from Democrats.
First stop: the latest Fox News Poll, jointly conducted by a Democratic and Republican polling firm from Jan. 4 to 7. The results were reported four days before Rogers’ statement. It surveyed 1,006 registered voters by phone and found that in a matchup with Hillary Clinton, Trump’s level of support was 84 percent among Republican but only 9 percent among Democrats.
The latest Quinnipiac poll to look at the question, conducted Dec. 16-20 among 1,140 registered voters, found that while 82 percent of Republicans would support Trump, only 4 percent of Democrats would vote for him in a matchup with Clinton.
So Democratic support for Trump doesn’t come close to his level seen among Republican voters.
When we asked Rogers about his sources, his spokeswoman sent us two articles, one from the New York Times and the other an opinion piece from U.S. News & World Report.
The Times analysis is based on surveys by Civis Analytics of more than 11,000 people who say they lean Republican. Trump’s support was 43 percent among Republicans who are still registered as Democrats. But that group makes up only 8 percent of the respondents who said they tend to support the GOP, and Civis spokeswoman Lisa Kornblatt told us no Democrats were included in the survey.
Arguing that Civis polling shows that Donald Trump is appealing as much to Democrats as he is to Republicans “is a misrepresentation of our data,” she said.
The results from Mercury Analytics, cited in the U.S. News & World Report opinion piece, found that a hefty 19 percent of likely Democratic voters would cross party lines and vote for Trump if the election were held when the online survey was conducted, January 6-8.
But, in contrast, Trump was supported by 73 percent of Republicans, making him nearly four times more popular among Republicans.
“If the claim was truly ‘Donald Trump is appealing as much to Democrats as he is to Republicans,’ this is completely untrue – ridiculous,” Mercury CEO Ron Howard wrote in an email.
The Mercury poll also found that 14 percent of likely Republican voters said they would vote for Democrat Hillary Clinton.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/jan/21/mike-rogers/mike-rogers-says-trump-appeals-democrats-much-repu/
“The Democrat Party is attempting to convince the American people that when riots occur this summer it will be the fault of the Republican Party and Donald Trump.”
Trump is the only candidate who has said there will be riots if he does not win the nomination. So yes, he is responsible if his supporters take him up on that. The many Republicans who have rightly condemned him for those statements do not share in the responsibility.
It’s interesting to me that no one seems to want to give us a number but I have found some evidence of Dems voting for Trump.
August 15, 2015, Washington Post, “Why Donald Trump makes sense to many voters — even some Democrats”
January 9, 2016, NewsMax, “Poll: Nearly 20 Percent of Democrats Would Vote for Trump Over Hillary”:
February 20, 2016, Daily Kos, “Are Democrats losing voters to Trump?”:
March 12, 2016, NY Post, “How Democrats abandoned the working class and spurred rise of Donald Trump”:
I don’t think I’m “massively inflating” the point for two reasons. Both parties have bled voters to “Independent” and exit polls in the primaries show that Democrat turnout is very low. They aren’t all staying home in an election year in which jobs and the economy are such big motivators.
“Trump is the only candidate who has said there will be riots if he does not win the nomination. So yes, he is responsible if his supporters take him up on that.”
You are really something, Chris. We have seen Democrats destroy and litter the mall in DC with their protest. We have watched as Occupy Wall Street trashed cities all across the country and resulted in destruction of property, defecating and urinating in the streets, rapes, and violence. We witnessed the Ferguson protests that ended with businesses burned and shots fired at police officers. We have seen repeated accounts of black mob violence against white individuals and police officers. And you are determined to bet on Trump supporters turning violent because of something he said that was hyperbolic rhetoric more than literal.
Do liberals ever self-analyze? Do they ever look in the mirror? Are they at all aware of the things that go on around them? Or do they constantly deflect, point the finger, avoid the obvious and try to blame Republicans?
I know what I’ve experienced but I’ll let our readers decide.
It is just Chris wagging his sausage again. Yes, liberals never self-analyze or look in the mirror. They operate from a delusional, self-aggrandizing standpoint that they are morally and intellectually superior to everyone else.
All bow to the swaggering sausage.
“We have seen Democrats destroy and litter the mall in DC with their protest. We have watched as Occupy Wall Street trashed cities all across the country and resulted in destruction of property, defecating and urinating in the streets, rapes, and violence. We witnessed the Ferguson protests that ended with businesses burned and shots fired at police officers. We have seen repeated accounts of black mob violence against white individuals and police officers. And you are determined to bet on Trump supporters turning violent because of something he said that was hyperbolic rhetoric more than literal.”
What politicians told them to do this?
Trump has told his supporters to use violence against his opponents. Multiple times. You know this.
You are the one trying to deflect from Trump’s clear responsibility for his inciting language, which goes far beyond hyperbole. “When they bring a knife, you bring a gun” is an inappropriate metaphor. “”So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of him, would you? Seriously, okay, just knock the hell. I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees; I promise, I promise…” is incitement.
What politicians told them to do this?
Oh for God’s sake Chris. Saul Alinsky’s methods have been taught to activist groups like ACORN and groups like Moveon .org were created by people (Hillary) who studied under Alinsky and cloward-Piven (Poor people can advance only when “the rest of society is afraid of them,”). Leadership in your party is made up of sixties radicals…Bill Ayers, the unrepentant bomb tosser may be the worst, in terms of a violent foot print, but the rest are all radical militant activist or promoters of such. Your party lives by the protest, mayhem, and ginning up people emotionally with button pushing slogans. But to be specific, try Barack Obama. His attitude is “I want you to argue with them and get in their face!” Get in their face is lefty speak for be intimidating and threatening. And you don’t get to spend eight years (More like thirty or forty) calling the opposition all kinds of despicable names without making people angry…but where is the violence from that anger? Your party has convinced black people that republicans hate them and want them to starve…they use the word starve…where is the angry backlash from such ugly accusations? The accusations are meant to intimidate, Chris. The right does not respond with violent protest. Your party lives by artificially instigating hatred and violence against the enemy they create with specious accusation.
You are either blind as a bat or willfully dishonest about this.
Are Trumps words a bit inflammatory? Sure. No more so than Democrats have been.
Can you explain why, when Democrats ran an ad accusing republicans of wanting to throw Granny off a cliff, republicans didn’t storm Congress and create mayhem in the streets? Probably not, because you’ve been taught that a few words from the right are worse than organizing a group that ends up fouling the public square; blocking participation, speech and assembly; burning down buildings; shooting at police officers; issuing dead or alive threats; intimidating bankers kids in their homes; threatening lawsuits, starting fights. The idea that left protests are spontaneous is total BS.
Your party OWNS public violence, rioting, destruction, and intimidation. There’s a decades long legacy. It’s time for all of you to OWN it.
You could have just said, “No politicians told OWS or Ferguson protesters to use violence,” and saved yourself some time.
Trump, on the other hand, has told his supporters to use violence.
As for the disruptions at the Trump rally last week, Trump lied; he said the police told him to cancel the event, and the police said they never asked him to do that and that there were no credible threats. Yes, the BLM groups that said they planned to disrupt the events were wrong, but they didn’t get the event cancelled; Trump did that himself, so that he could play the victim. That’s what he does.
“Who are these Democrats?” Find out in July.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7e6gLht6OQ
Looks like another winner from D’souza Peggy, thanks.
I am a democrat and I am a Hispanic and I hear what Trump say about undocumented workers. In my experience he is mostly right. Mexico is not sending their best and brightest to US. Many come here without papers thinking they can send money home and go back in a year or two. They displace workers already here. They hurt the average labor worker by keeping wages and benefits low and jobs hard to find. I support legal immigration and I will vote for Donald Trump if he is the winner. I would like to vote for Ted Cruz more.
We need fair immigration and cheaters not needed or wanted is my opinion.
Muchas gracias, senor!
Romiro thank you very much for responding on this topic! Your voice carries a lot of weight in my opinion.
I’m very troubled by the false accusation that those who oppose illegal entry are racist. It is simply not true. In fact it’s absurd when you look around and see the influence of Hispanic culture in America, especially in the southwest and south western coastal regions.
We agree completely about both Trump and Ted Cruz. And I agree we need to secure our borders and reform our immigration system. Fences make good neighbors. we have too much in common with Hispanics to be anything but friends.
Both Trump and the Totalitarian Left Are a Threat to Civilized Politics
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By international and historical standards, political violence is exceedingly rare in the United States. The last serious outburst was 1968 with its bloody Democratic-convention riots. By that standard, 2016 is, as yet, tame. It may not remain so.
The political thuggery that shut down a Donald Trump rally in Chicago last week may just be a harbinger. It would be nice, therefore, if we could think straight about cause and effect. The immediate conventional wisdom was to blame the disturbance on the “toxic climate” created by Trump. Nonsense. This was an act of deliberate sabotage created by a totalitarian Left that specializes in the intimidation and silencing of political opponents.
Hearing lots of talk about this is the end of the road for the GOP, as we know it.
If Trump wins the nomination Cruz supporters/conservatives will form a third party. And if he doesn’t win the nomination he’ll form a party consisting primarily of left-leaning Republicans and moderate Democrats who can’t pull the handle for Hillary and Bernie.
Also hearing this election could be historic. There hasn’t been one like it since the Whig party went under, the GOP was formed and Lincoln became its first elected president.
Will U.S. Conservatives Mount a Third-Party Challenge If Trump Is the Nominee?:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/02/will-conservatives-mount-a-third-party-challenge-if-trump-is-the-nominee/470499/
Democrats sound alarm against Trump:
“Top liberals and leading progressive groups perceive the GOP front-runner as a dangerous and unprecedented threat.”
“Outside groups and top donors have also pitched in. The AFL-CIO, which hasn’t endorsed a candidate, has started to unleash anti-Trump digital ads and door-knocking in Ohio and Pennsylvania, two Rust Belt swing states where Democrats have been concerned Trump’s economic populism could take hold.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/democrats-donald-trump-alarm-220910#ixzz43EIC5QYu
Still trying to palm that monster off on somebody else, huh?
That really is pitiful … and it ain’t gonna work either.
Come on, just hunker down and wallow in the boor’s boorishness. Get it out of your systems.