by Jack
Some of the most expensive real estate in California is in San Francisco. So why would some of the poorest, most chronically unemployed, down-and-out, homeless be flocking to live there? The simple answer is, because they can. San Francisco is a cool place, who wouldn’t want to hang out there? And the best part is, shelters and free food services are fairly abundant. If you have ever tried to book a room in a regular hotel room there, you know a free bed in this town is no small thing! So much to see – so many rich people to hit up for spare change. It’s a bums paradise.
San Franciscans tend to be a little left of Karl Marx, only they embrace the good life of the bourgeoisie, not shun it. But, aside from that, being a lefty almost automatically qualifies them to be self proclaimed experts on the unwashed masses. Yep, they are the consummate know-it-alls when it comes to throwing money at the poor, but oddly all their efforts have led to naught…they have more bums than ever, er…I mean homeless.
San Francisco has a “homeless” population of about 7,000 plus, according to the Mayors Homeless taskforce. And when it comes to policies for these people, that’s probably all I could agree on. The first absurd myth they push is, almost all the homeless are basically people that fell on hard time who lived right in San Francisco. And where might they have lived prior, what was their residence address? The overpass coming off the bay bridge? Nah, they have made way too many assumptions and believed the homeless they were interviewing far too often, like wide eyed liberals tend to do. The bum with the thick Arkansas accent probably didn’t grow up in San Francisco, but he knew what to say when the census takers asked him: “Oh, yessiree I’ma looong time resi-dent!” Of course he has no work history for any of his 15 years as an adult, but if he can just get a little help he knows he will right back on track. See, in their liberal lunatic world nobody is on the street because it’s a lifestyle or the direct result of an aversion to work, they are almost all victims of Wall Street, big oil, Haliburton, Buschco, etc.
But, don’t try to convince the liberals they are being gamed, they know better. And they know if they know for a fact if they can just spend more tax dollars for more shelters they will manage homeless problem, oh of course most of its associated crime will go down too. The liberals deny that a good portion of the 2% at the bottom of our society are there because of really bad life choices. Yet, every nation on earth has their 2% just like we do and throughout history nothing has ever been done to fix it.
Fools errand: San Francisco has been significantly adding more beds/shelters around the city for the last decade and yet they never been able to catch up with the increasing homeless population. Imagine that?
Chico is also a cool place to hang out.
If the Russians want to let a percentage of their homeless population freeze to death every winter, that’s their business.
Emmigrate. You’ll be much more contented there.
And we would no longer have to listen to your frightened, selfish, savage, sniveling. Seriously, why do you expose yourself like this?
You crab, crab, crab, but haven’t got the guts to offer your solution, cause it’s decidedly Russian, and you’re ashamed, as well you should be.
And, we are not going along with it. Ever. So just quit it.
I suggest Libbya move to the workers’ paradise — Cuba.
So you’re saying the only solution to this problem is shelters, Libby?
Same short sighted opinion. But it’s not surprising from a member of the group that let’s it all hang out, encouraging irresponsible behaviors and laughing at any suggestion that we encourage self discipline and responsible adult participation instead.
We?
We who?
Quit it?
Go to your room.
No. They won’t stay in shelters. And you wouldn’t either if sleep was your object.
The mentally ill go to the “behavioral health unit” (very expensive).
The addicted go to rehab, again, and again, and again, until it takes, or they die (very, very expensive).
The merely vagrant get a little apartment and a free ride on the vocational training program of their choosing (very, really, expensive).
And, to pay for all this remediation, the top tax bracket is going back to, not 90 percent, that was excessive, 75 percent should be plenty. The top 20 percent … 55 should do.
Well, maybe 90 percent. I mean, The Donald has given several income figures (as the spirit moves him, apparently), but if he actually cleared $8M, and can’t get by on $600K, he and the missus need to try harder. They all need to develop some fiscal restraint, don’t you think?
Libby, because you asked, let me re-repeat for the umteeth time what we could do to combat the homeless problem.
1. We have no control over private food kitchens and shelters, except to limit them by operating permit. The size of these facilities should be determined by our City of Chico census. Chico should be allowed X number of beds/per 1000 pop., anymore than that we begin caring for the homeless outside our city and this stresses our services designed for our own indigents. This is the lifeboat principle, if the life boat is only designed to hold 30, then don’t try to hold 60 or you will sink.
2. Indigents who are arrested should not be let go on a fine that they will never pay, better they work it off picking up trash or tending a garden. Chain gangs have a tremendous impact on homeless tourism aka bums who come here to commit crime.
3. Enforce sleep and lie ordinances as it pertains to safety, public nuisance and ingress/egress. Very limited scope of authority here, but as the bums often say, anything helps.
4. Encourage locals to not give money directly to panhandlers and redirect their giving to charities where it will do the most good.
5. Police should regularly raid homeless encampments on city and private property where they are tresspassing, littering, polluting or creating human waste issues. Camps should be cleaned out and trash removed (see chain gangs below)
6. Local stores and coffee shops should monitor restrooms to keep homeless from washing clothes in the sinks and sleeping in stalls.
7. Police should be closely watch the hot sheet for stolen bicycle and stop and check homeless riding bikes matching stolen reports. Chico is overrun with homeless riding expensive bicyles cobbled together from stolen parts. It would not take a master detective to figure out if a bum was riding a stolen bike or parts from a stolen bike.
8. Police should arrest transients disembarking freight trains to enter Chico for RR tresspass laws. Give them a choice, leave town or be arrested on the spot.
9. Streamline access to mental health for people in need.
10. Sadly the left has made it impossible force a mentally ill person into a care facility.
They have also made it impossible to enforce vagrancy laws or loitering laws, that often has lead to more burglaries and night time thefts. Liberals made it possible for bums to expose themselves to pee/poop in public. Liberals said it is sleep on the sidewalk or in a doorway. And many other things the police once used to keep bums doing drugs/drinking/stealing/mugging or prostitution away from their communities.
The question you ought to ask yourself now is, are we better off after what these liberals did to the laws? Well, the bums are for sure… communities not so much.
Just going to pick one: the chain gang. This is not cheap. The guys have to be supervised, housed, fed. Still, this was very popular with large capitalists in the 19th and 20th centuries who got the taxpayers to subsidize very cheap labor for their enterprises. However, it renders the guys fit for nothing but another sentence.
My option, housing plus vocational training, is much more likely to get the guys off the books for keeps. And if you could lose the frightened, resentful, vengefulness (which makes you obscenely vulnerable to manipulation by capitalists) you would see this.
Picking up and cleaning up the mess they and their fellows made is character building Libby. First things first. A person who dumps on civic and private property, frightens or discourages shoppers, panhandles and harasses others and refuses to enter a shelter to get help deserves to be reminded that the people in civilized society won’t tolerate such behavior and have expectations of every citizen.
Vocational training is an idea I’ve suggested myself for those living off the taxpayer. This is a little different. People who flip off a shelter are not ready for vocational training; they need a wake up call…or a mental institution.
So I read your reply, and only the smallest alteration is necessary: resentment, fear, vengeance.
I am positively not making headway here.
Because you are unreasonable in your sympathies for those among the homeless who don’t give a fig about your stupid shelters and would live in your car, your driveway, your patio and eat from your refrigerator uninvited while flipping you off. These people are a public nuisance that shelters won’t fix…get a friggin’ clue.
San Francisco. Yeah. How’s that workin’ out?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/20/san-franciscos-police-chief-resigns-amid-racial-issues.html
Maybe it was just really bad PR handling, but the man really did seem fundamentally unconcerned. And his officers just can’t seem to quit doing it.
Tina, you keep proving my point. You make them into monsters, objects of your fear and resentment so you can practice the vengeance with a clear (not quite, though, right?) conscience.
Is is not constructive. This is not gonna get them off your streets.
Libby soe of them behave like monsters, two year old monsters that have gotten away with behaving badly for much too long.
You will not distinguish between people who are down on their luck and need a helping hand (they go to shelters) and people that live on the streets, make a nuisance of themselves, and refuse help (We’ll set aside the mentally ill for now, another issue). I donate to local shelters and I’m happy to do it.
Excusing the ones who won’t seek help and work toward bettering their circumstances, and giving them cash, certainly will not get them off our streets. It just encourages them.
And please stop imagining that you understand my motives. You are way off the mark.