Posted by Tina
Violent confrontation led to (vehicular) second degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding, and one count of “hit and run attended failure to stop with injury” in Charlottesville on Saturday. Other unrelated deaths and injuries were also reported including the deaths of two officers killed in a helicopter crash. Twenty year old James Alex Fields Jr. of Ohio was arrested and charged after he plowed his car into a group of protesters who had gathered to counter a rally held by white nationalists, Ku Klux Klan, and neo-Nazis. Former Imperial Wizard David Duke and white nationalist leader Richard Spencer were in attendance. Many of the white nationalists, neo-Nazis and radical counter-protesters came from outside Charlottesville. The organizer of the rally, a man named Kessler, organized the rally suggesting a white nationalism presence in the community. Richard Spencer, the man who is considered to have coined the term “alt-right,” went to school at the University of Virginia, which is based here. A lawsuit, brought to prevent the removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee was apparently the excuse for the rally.
President Trump condemned the violence in the “strongest possible terms” and, after speaking with Governor Terry McCauliffe by phone, said both had agreed that the violence in America must stop and that Americans must learn to respect one another. Trump called for Americans to unite “as one.”
Governor McCauliffe issued a clear statement rejecting extremist groups on behalf of Virginia:
“You came here today to hurt people, and you did hurt people,” McAuliffe said. “My message is clear: we are stronger than you. You have made our commonwealth stronger. You will not succeed. There is no place for you here. There is no place for you in America.”
All very well and good. There is no excuse for violent acts by any person or group. In my experience, agitators don’t respect the right of free speech. Agitators, by definition, are looking for a fight. We have non-violent methods for affecting our government and society through responsible communication and the vote. The right to peacefully assemble is also an American right that facilitates free and open speech. Agitators are not willing to participate within that system. When they perceive they are out of power, they turn to disruptive and violent means. This is not the product of American values. But it does mirror the Marxist and fascist values associated with “student revolution” well documented throughout history.
The KKK and white nationalists have held rally’s in the past and have been ignored by the people. The tiny groups that attended these rallies soon realized their ideas were not shared and their efforts were futile. Americans do not support these groups because they preach hate, division, and tyranny.
Local citizens of Charlotte are attempting to make sense of the violence in their midst:
Neil Gropen, who previously worked for a museum, found what he called a handmade white supremacist shield, which he called the “object of the devil,” on Sunday morning.
Gropen blamed white nationalists for Saturday’s violence but also pointed the figure at aggressive protesters for provoking the right wing racists.
“Don’t provoke them,” he said. “You have a dog in a cage. How many times do you have to rattle the car before he snaps at you?”
He has a point. We know the white supremacists came to make speeches and wave placards. But I suspect the counter protesters came with the intention to agitate and “provoke.” They come grounded in the intolerant notion of controlled speech that shuts down any expression that doesn’t fit their own set of ideas and beliefs. We’ve witnessed the emergence of this PC attitude on America’s college campuses where violent protesters prevented the free speech of conservative speakers. We’ve witnessed PC intolerant agitation at Trump rallies. We spent a summer of trash, agitation, and destruction in our streets during Occupy Wall Street. And we’ve watched parts of cities burn during protests in Ferguson and in Dallas, where police officers were murdered.
Some in the media and elsewhere are criticizing Trump for not being more forceful in condemning the so called “alt-right” groups. The mayor of Charlottesville actually blamed Trump for the violence. But as Gateway Pundit points out, violence by left extremist agitators of BLM, Antifa, SEIU, and others have been tolerated for more than a year. (see photos and commentary at link) No one in the media calls them “alt-left” groups or calls for their strong condemnation. Violence is condemned but not the groups. In fact, two of these groups, BLM and SEIU, are embraced by the Democrat Party, former President Obama and former fist Lady, Secretary of State and candidate for president Hillary Clinton. The violence will not stop as long as this blatant double standard continues. The Gateway Pundit:
Yesterday at a white supremacist event in Charlottesville, Virginia, people were killed. Violent fascist rioters like Antifa were there en masse to shut down the event. (We at the GWP in no way support white fascists but we also do not support or condone violent acts against these same individuals.)
One bold reporter by the name of Faith Goldy was nearly five feet from where individuals were mowed down after being run over by a lunatic in a car. Goldy noted that the police were no where to be found when the incident occurred.
The white supremacists were told to disband and discontinue their protest but the Black Lives Matter and Antifa thugs were allowed to continue their protesting.
Antifa and Black Lives Matter were still protesting when the car appeared out of nowhere and ran over people.
It’s important to note the timeline in these matters. Why were the “alt-left” agitators not told to disperse and go home?
It’s common knowledge that George Soros funds left wing agitating groups like BLM. See here, here, here, here, and here. This very wealthy, unscrupulous trouble maker is far more dangerous and radical than David Duke. It’s time for Democrats to forcefully renounce him and to stop accepting his financial support. (That includes any Republicans that have accepted donations from Soros)
If we are going to condemn violence we must be aligned in our condemnation against any violent act. It’s long past time to return to the basic principles that have served our nation through thick and thin for generations. We are individual human beings with individual rights, and we stand united by our common identity…we are Americans first…Americans who “hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights…”
Free speech is an important individual right that must be respected whether or not we agree with the speaker and that includes letting unsavory groups hold rallies. Counter protest, especially if it is confrontational in nature, is the antithesis of tolerance and an enemy of free speech.
Your thoughts?
Related: The American Thinker, “When a Bernie Sanders supporter attempted to assassinate Republicans, the media were quick to disassociate a politician from his radical supporters”
“Make no mistake this mayor knows exactly what he’s doing. Charlotte was a confirmation that no matter how far leftists go they will not be blamed. Now they can tear down memorials with impunity and anyone who fights back will labeled an extremist of the highest order. And if any non-lefty is actually peaceful about it by God the liberals will make sure to start something.
The Russian narrative is collapsing as we speak. Look for the left to try anything and everything to pin on Trump to get him out. And look to the establishment, deep staters and media to support them 100%. Unless Trump starts going full tilt after these loons and forcing the law to be followed I fully expect multiple Charlottes every month leading right up until election day. And depending on how that goes, I expect it to get worse.
Comment from here–
http://knuckledraggin.com/2017/08/they-dont-know-when-to-stop-do-they/
The thing that bugs me is this, it’s a freaking statue of Robert E. Lee, a great man of his time. He was asked by the U.S. to lead their army. If he was such an evil guy, why did they ask him to lead the Union forces?
Next, Robert E. Lee fought for the South because of his friends and family and that he believed the issue at hand was state’s rights and a limited central government. The cause of slavery was a late addition in the war, so he can not be blamed for slavery. He did not invent it and he did not fight to preserve it. Lee was in fact in his heart an abolitionist. In 1856, 5 years before the war, he wrote, “I was much pleased the with President’s message. His views of the systematic and progressive efforts of certain people at the North to interfere with and change the domestic institutions of the South are truthfully and faithfully expressed. The consequences of their plans and purposes are also clearly set forth. These people must be aware that their object is both unlawful and foreign to them and to their duty, and that this institution, for which they are irresponsible and non-accountable, can only be changed by them through the agency of a civil and servile war. There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil. It is idle to expatiate on its disadvantages.”
Lee was a man of honor and he was torn between friends and family in the South and the economic needs and demands of the North.
Historian James King wrote, “It is my opinion that war was inevitable between the North and South due to complex political and cultural differences. The famous Englishman Winston Churchill stated that the war between the North and South was one of the most unpreventable wars in history. The Cause that the Confederate States of America fought for (1861-1865) was Southern Independence from the United States of America. Many parallels exist between the War for American Independence ( 1775-1783 ) and the War for Southern Independence.
There were 10 political causes of the war (causes of Southern Secession) —one of which was slavery– which was a scapegoat for all the differences that existed between the North and South. The Northern industrialists had wanted a war since about 1830 to get the South’s resources ( land-cotton- coal-timber- minerals ) for pennies on the dollar. All wars are economic and are always between centralists and decentralists. The North would have found an excuse to invade the South even if slavery had never existed.
A war almost occurred during 1828-1832 over the tariff when South Carolina passed nullification laws. The U.S. congress had increased the tariff rate on imported products to 40% ( known as the tariff of abominations in Southern States ). This crisis had nothing to do with slavery. If slavery had never existed –period–or had been eliminated at the time the Declaration of Independence was written in 1776 or anytime prior to 1860 it is my opinion that there would still have been a war sooner or later.”
King lists the number one cause of the war as taxation without representation. He writes, “Prior to the (Civil) war about 75% of the money to operate the Federal Government was derived from the Southern States via an unfair sectional tariff on imported goods and 50% of the total 75% was from just 4 Southern states–Virginia- North Carolina–South Carolina and Georgia. Only 10%–20% of this tax money was being returned to the South. The Southern states were being treated as an agricultural colony of the North and bled dry. John Randolph of Virginia’s remarks in opposition to the tariff of 1820 demonstrates that fact. The North claimed that they fought the war to preserve the Union but the New England Industrialists who were in control of the North were actually supporting preservation of the Union to maintain and increase revenue from the tariff. The industrialists wanted the South to pay for the industrialization of America at no expense to themselves. Revenue bills introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives prior to the War Between the States were biased, unfair and inflammatory to the South. Abraham Lincoln had promised the Northern industrialists that he would increase the tariff rate if he was elected president of the United States. Lincoln increased the rate to a level that exceeded even the “Tariff of Abominations” 40% rate that had so infuriated the South during the 1828-1832 era ( between 50 and 51% on iron goods). The election of a president that was Anti-Southern on all issues and politically associated with the New England industrialists, fanatics, and zealots brought about the Southern secession movement.”
Not long after the war, Sunday services were being held at St. Paul’s Episcopal Church in Richmond, VA. The church service progressed as usual until it was time for communion. When the call to communion was made, an unknown black man rose from his pew in the back of the church and made the long walk down the aisle to the front of the church where he proceeded to kneel at the communion rail.
The members of the church were shocked by this act and remained seated, unsure of what to do. Then, a old gentleman with white hair rose from his pew and strode down the center aisle and knelt down next to black man, and the two received communion together. That white haired old gentleman was Robert E. Lee.
“…they can tear down memorials with impunity…”
The alt-left radical elements that wish to remove all vestiges of slavery and the KKK will have a horrendous job on their hands in West Virginia. Former KKK “Exhaulted Cyclops,” Robert Byrd secured billions of dollars in pork spending for projects in West Virginia that bear his name:
Roads, Parks, Schools….there must be hundreds!
Last year I felt like we were reliving the 1960s’ race riots. Today feels like the 1950s and 60s when George Wallace was governor and a KKK member. How the he77 did we digress to where we were 60 year ago?
I knew Obama was bad, but my god did he succeed not only in transforming American, but destroying it?
Ben Shapiro has an excellent article about the alti-right and alt-left, etc.
7 Things You Need To Know About The Charlottesville Violence And White Supremacist Terror Attack:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/19658/7-things-you-need-know-about-charlottesville-ben-shapiro#
When Blacks Voted 80 Percent Dem, Malcolm X Called Them ‘Chumps’:
“Yet Democrats, said Malcolm X, failed to deliver on a promised and much anticipated new civil rights bill, knowing the party could still count on their blind support in the next election.
“You put them first,” said Malcolm X, “and they put you last. ‘Cause you’re a chump. A political chump! … Any time you throw your weight behind a political party that controls two-thirds of the government, and that party can’t keep the promise that it made to you during election time, and you are dumb enough to walk around continuing to identify yourself with that party — you’re not only a chump but you’re a traitor to your race.”
What would Malcolm X say about today’s 95 percent black vote? Did the Democratic Party keep its promises to promote family stability, push education and encourage job creation?”
https://townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/2014/03/13/when-blacks-voted-80-percent-dem-malcolm-x-called-them-chumps-n1808196
Welcome to what Obumble & his DOJ created with 8 years giving protestors, rioters & criminal vandals a pass while fomenting racial unrest.
And assisted to by the LunaticLeftie presstitutes and predictable politicians who are now trying to blame TheDonald.
This time, an assist was given by not only Terrible Terry – who fails to mention the antifa groups when condemning the violence – and the Charlottesville mayor who did the same.
And the fact that the police were instructed not to intervene “unless ordered” smacks of the “stand down” orders in Berkeley recently.
It takes two to tango – or fight. The Black Lies Matter/paid-by-Soros rioter crowd is just as guilty of violence as the “supremacists.”
The Black Lies Matter/paid-by-Soros rioter crowd is just as guilty of violence as the “supremacists.”
In recent years, more so! How many cops were killed in Dallas? What is the consequence, emotionally and monetarily, to families of businesses destroyed by fire and looting?
How many cops, and others, have been killed in the name of BLM or Fergusson?
Some of the violent perps of violence in Charlottesville were throwing cans filled with cement as weapons…tell me that wasn’t meant to kill, injure, or maim!
We will know more once the investigation is complete but one thing remains a certainty, the only group with a permit to assemble was the group united under the banner “Unite the Right,” which is a left sounding slogan if ever I heard one!
Wonderful post. I only disagreed with about…three, four paragraphs in the whole thing, tops! But I appreciate the full-throated condemnation of the white supremacists, and agree the best response from the left would be not dignifiying their silly little rallies in the first place.