Posted by Tina
UPDATE: Sentencing has been delayed…drama in the courtroom…Judge suggests Flynn’s actions were possibly treasonous…after short court recess Judge apologized, said he was “just curious”…:
The prosecution told Sullivan that Flynn played a role in the indictment this week of two Flynn associates charged with illegally lobbying for Turkey without properly registering under the Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA). They said Flynn could have been indicted in that case had he not cooperated.
The bureau, meanwhile, has faced mounting criticism from Trump allies in recent days over its handling of the original Flynn interview that led to the false-statement charge, after it was revealed bureau leaders discouraged Flynn from having a lawyer present and some inside the FBI had doubts about whether he intentionally lied. Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team defended investigators’ actions, but also urged a lenient sentence
Relaed: Michael Flynn associates charged with illegally lobbying for Turkey
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Very serious breaches in protocol led to the arrest of Michael Flynn: “…the FBI did not go through the White House counsel first, suggest Flynn have a lawyer, or advise him of his rights prior to the interview.”
Judge Emmet Sullivan will sentence Michael Flynn tomorrow.
Judge Sullivan has the power to dismiss all charges against Flynn for prosecutorial misconduct – and should do so!!!!!
Flynn would make a great Chief of Staff for TheDonald and we could watch the Left go nuts!
Great idea! Certainly in the spirit of what the bums that cover for these criminals deserve.
I doubt Gen Flynn is in the mood to involve himself in government after being treated so horribly but who knows, he has been a warrior defending basic freedoms before.
Flynn. Is. A. Criminal. He admitted to being a criminal. You don’t care…because you only care about owning the libs.
You don’t have any idea about how much I care.
Flynn has been pursued for doing much less than a whole lot of other people in DC and under nefarious conditions. He’s already paid a very high price for it. What more do you want?
Why don’t you care about the criminals that have escaped and not paid the price for their crimes?
Why are you not concerned that government officials are being treated differently under the law?
Why wasn’t Hillary placed under oath to be questioned? Why was she allowed to get away with wantonly destroying the public record? Why was she allowed to refuse to answer questions…was she not a servant of the people?
And she’s not the only one who’s gotten away with egregious criminality and malfeasance. There’s a long string of them…all Democrats or covering for the Democrats or in league with the democrats who are not doing their jobs dispassionately for the people.
Why do you not care?
Do you believe in the rule of law or not?
Why wasn’t Hillary placed under oath to be questioned?
But Flynn was not questioned “under oath” either. He lied to the FBI, which is a crime whether one is under oath or not. And despite Trump’s claims, the FBI says Hillary did not lie to them, either.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/fact-check-trump-accused-clinton-lying-fbi-said-she-did-n826361
So the double standard here is yours; you’re accusing others of lying while parroting and enabling proven liars.
Well, you know, it was a dicey situation. Flynn had been officially on staff for what? … two weeks? And all his naughtiness was perpetrated during the campaign and before … and … try to keep this in your head: he’s not plead to doing it, but to lying about it.
Schmoozing the Russian ambassador is not necessarily illegal, nor is lobbying for Turkey. I mean, he could have been lobbying for orphans, right?
Big Yuck.
Dicey situation? Not really, the man was set up. Comey went on national TV to brag about it and getting Flynn was just the beginning.
The Bushes bent over backwards to help the Barack Obama transition team…the objective, always, is a smooth transition.
Even before Trump took office officially top officials in the Obama Justice Department and the FBI, the DNC, and the Hillary campaign were plotting to undermine the new President and get rid of him if they could. This is the most corrupt criminal enterprise in our nations history.
Andrew McCabe arranged for the FBI interview Flynn. He was fired this year for “a lack of candor over a news media lea,” according to the Justice Department. Gee what’s the difference between a “lack if candor” and “Lying?”
The Deep State uses the language and a double standard in meeting out justice.
Flynn was part of the Trump administration and as such had every right to talk with the Russians or any other nation as part of his job.
This is nuts to be sure.
Flynn was part of the Trump administration and as such had every right to talk with the Russians or any other nation as part of his job.
So why did he lie about it?
Do you care?
“Not really, the man was set up.”
The judge directly asked his lawyers whether they believe he was set up. They said no.
Stop promoting ignorance about the law.
Tina:
Very serious breaches in protocol led to the arrest of Michael Flynn: “…the FBI did not go through the White House counsel first, suggest Flynn have a lawyer, or advise him of his rights prior to the interview.”
Those are not breaches in protocol. The right has made up standards out of whole cloth to pretend that they are, but they are not.
J:
Flynn would make a great Chief of Staff for TheDonald and we could watch the Left go nuts
Dude, Trump fired Flynn because he said he lied to both him and Pence. Of course, it’s possible Trump was lying about that too.
And you just…don’t care.
“Those are not breaches in protocol”
Yes, They. Are.
Comey is an arrogant a$$ who thinks himself above criticism. He was asked about the breach and passed the buck, attributing his error (tactic) to an unorganized WH. Remember, Comey is supposed to be a nonpartisan in his duties to the American people and serve any president with equal vigor, Instead he took sides, breached protocols that have been in place and set Flynn up. Flynn assumed he was having a friendly conversation with someone who was on the same team. When pressed about why he didn’t notify the WH councils office he said, “(I) probably wouldn’t have done or maybe gotten away with in a more organized administration.” He should have done it anyway…unless he was on the Deep State team instead of the American peoples team.
WHY DON’T YOU CARE?
Flynn assumed he was having a friendly conversation with someone who was on the same team.
Then why did he lie to them?
Re: “Those are not breaches in protocol. The right has made up standards out of whole cloth to pretend that they are, but they are not. ”
Bull****. Sheesh, are you NEVER full of crap, Chris?
Duuuuuude, Comey said precisely that he did break protocol you ignorant, intentionally oblivious moron from progressive hell. He did what he said he did and “just sent a couple of guys over” to the White House because he could “get away with it.”
Get away with what? BREAKING PROTOCOL. Sheesh, what a dope.
Trump fired Flynn for lying. No one knows why he lied. It doesn’t make any sense. Evidently he was convinced that this was a cordial, informal, just have a little chat, visit and that he would not be held accountable for what he said, which is so stupid I find it hard to believe. Flynn inexplicably lied about something that was inconsequential and his life and the lives of his family have been destroyed as a result. It is very sad. Especially because — evidently — nothing he actually did besides lying to the FBI was of any consequence.
Re “Any you just…don’t care.”
Oh puhleeease, that asinine whine and stick it where the sun don’t shine, Sweet Pea.
Comey said precisely that he did break protocol
No, he did not. You are repeating Sarah Sanders’ standard spin on this.
The first problem with this is that Comey never said the Flynn interview was inappropriate, or anything of the sort. In an interview with MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace last week, he said FBI agents would normally go through the White House Counsel’s Office to interview the likes of Flynn. But he never said that was FBI “protocol” or even required. Instead, he was remarking on the lack of organization in the Trump White House, especially in its early days.
“[It’s] something we — I — probably wouldn’t have done or maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation — a more organized administration,” Comey said, adding: “I thought, ‘It’s early enough; let’s just send a couple guys over.’”
Comey wasn’t saying that the agents didn’t run through the proper channels; he’s saying the White House didn’t run it through the proper channels. Comey’s “gotten away with” phrasing does make it sound somewhat nefarious, but his point was broadly about how the White House would normally stand in the way of such things — not that there was anything wrong with what the agents did. If there was a protocol that was broken, it was the White House’s own.
Sanders went on to say Comey admitted protocol had been broken in two other ways: “in the way that they questioned [Flynn], and in the way that they encouraged him not to have White House Counsel’s Office present.” That is quite simply nowhere to be found in Comey’s comments — anywhere. In fact, in sworn testimony Monday to the House Oversight Committee, Comey stated flatly that the interview didn’t break protocol in those ways:
REP TREY GOWDY (R-S.C.): Why not advise General Flynn of the consequences of making false statements to the FBI?
COMEY. Two reasons, really. First, the deputy director [of the FBI, Andrew McCabe] called him, told him what the subject matter was, told him he was welcome to have a representative from White House counsel there. So he knew what he was going to be asked about. He was an extraordinarily experienced person and so reasonably should be assumed to understand you can’t lie to the FBI.
Second, it’s not protocol. The FBI does not do that in noncustodial interviews.
Comey’s comments lent themselves nicely to this kind of mischaracterization. Sometimes his ego gets the better of him, and in this case he basically seemed to be bragging about penetrating the White House’s bureaucratic defenses.
But Sanders’s summary of them is wrong in multiple ways — and the fact that she has to effectively invent things that he said in defense of the White House’s Flynn allegations pretty much says it all about how much substance is behind them.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/18/white-house-lost-its-narrative-michael-flynn-so-it-made-up-some-stuff-about-james-comey-instead/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.dc775ddf1534
Glad we agree on Flynn’s incompetence. I wish you would show more curiosity about why he lied in the first place, though. It’s highly likely he was worried that his communications with Russia were, if not illegal, incredibly inappropriate. And of course, the fact that so many of Trump’s underlings have lied about their contacts with Russia only shows how necessary the Mueller investigation is.
“… nothing he actually did besides lying to the FBI was of any consequence.”
Oh, I don’t know about that. Flynn is fortunate to have removed himself from “Flynn Intel Group” when he did:
https://www.apnews.com/6e4dfd935c4a408b8383402f4d9a54e9
Don’t you find it just the tiniest bit creepy? This Turkish cleric could have been another Khashoggi, in direct consequence of Flynn’s profit-minded machinating. I don’t want people like this in my government.
Tina doesn’t care that Trump staffed his campaign and administration with unregistered foreign agents. Trump was even warned that Flynn might be compromised, and he did not care, because he does not care about national security.
He has once again circumvented the Pentagon, giving Russia a big win by pulling out of Syria against the advice of his own national security advisers. This is not the first time he has acted unilaterally and ignored his own experts: he did the same with the travel ban, and again with the ban on trans people in the military. To argue that any of these were done in the interest of national security is to ignore that no one who actually studies national security thinks this is so. And he said he would do this during the campaign, declaring he “knew more than the generals.” Tina was shown that he said this, and she didn’t care. This is, once again, Trump putting his own interests above the safety of our country and the world.
Syria…glad you brought that up
Fake news is all you have. The quotes by Kerry in that article are not an admission that the administration “intentionally armed ISIS,” as the lying headline claims. Anyone who can read can see that.
You really are terrible at this.
Mattis quit over Trump’s decision to pull out of Syria; Trump did not consult the Pentagon; Republicans in Congress are furious with his actions. You tried to distract from this issue and Trump’s incompetence and carelessness by whatabouting to Obama. Pathetic.
Ahhh Libby, the party you prefer and love has been (is) full of “that type”
Washington Examiner.
Did you somehow miss the part of that article where it clearly explains that the Podesta Group was doing this foreign lobbying on behalf of Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign chairman, and Rick Gates, Manafort’s deputy?
The difference between us, Tina, is that we’re not tripping over our own butts trying to defend the Podestas. We aren’t debasing ourselves inventing elaborate conspiracy theories for why they have targeted by the Feds when it seems highly likely they’ve committed crimes. Contrast this to your behavior regarding Flynn, and it’s night and day.
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